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Warlock40
Profile Joined September 2011
601 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 14:54:35
May 10 2013 14:54 GMT
#3061
So, were people actually outraged by what IdrA said and contacting sponsors or something? Did Garfield act based on community reaction demanding blood? Or did he act preemptively? Because it seems almost like this was all too convenient, as if he had already planned to release IdrA and this gave him a great excuse.
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
May 10 2013 14:54 GMT
#3062
This is great for EG!
"NO" -Has
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
May 10 2013 14:54 GMT
#3063
On May 10 2013 23:50 StreetWise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 23:46 Chicken Chaser wrote:
On May 10 2013 23:44 9-BiT wrote:
This is probably the dumbest thing EG has done to date, and that's really saying something. Idra was an entertainer, not really a player. In the same way that wrestling has those wrestlers that everyone loves to hate, starcraft has idra. To kick him because people hated him is stupid, he's an entertainer, just like geoff is.


I think the point was he was bragging about being paid for being a dick. That crossed the line.


I agree, I think it was the fact that he implied that EG was paying him to be a dick was the big deal. Everyone already knows that the persona he puts on is that of the 'badboy' so to speak, but he shouldn't have said that he gets paid specifically to be a dick. EG only paid him to play the game and tolerated his behavior as it did add to his draw with the ESports audience.

He was responding to a very trollish/stupid post though. I read it like him mostly saying it to antagonize said and like-minded posters. Sure that doesn't make it much better from a pr standpoint but if players would get fired everything they say something equally stupid, a lot of players would be in danger. To me it just felt like it was the last straw for EG more than the post itself being so bad that he deserved to get kicked from the team.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1482 Posts
May 10 2013 14:55 GMT
#3064
Bye Bye mister bad manner.
EG is a strage team. It has some of the best foreginers, great Korean stars.... yet somehow they dont look too motivated.

Hell... there are like... no EG-TL players taht actually play as of late in the GSTL.
I mean... im sure they ratehr focus on foreigner events where they can actually win and get some prize money, but still...
aka LRM)Cats_Paw.
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
May 10 2013 14:55 GMT
#3065
On May 10 2013 23:52 ACrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 23:36 Godwrath wrote:
On May 10 2013 23:29 Vash_SC2 wrote:
On May 10 2013 22:52 NightOfTheDead wrote:
On May 10 2013 22:49 Juggernaut477 wrote:
On May 10 2013 22:45 Usernameffs wrote:
On May 10 2013 22:39 Art_of_Kill wrote:
not gonna read 100+ pages to find out, so can someone tell me, what did idra do to get kicked out of eg?

Number of things. He said to caposh that he wished him cancer. Wrote that david kim should be raped by an tire iron. Posted on a forum that his fans are fucks. Refused to play his teammate Demuslim for weeks plus something we maybe dont know about.


He never said his fans were fucks, he said the starcraft community in general was.

He was mostly right.


Yes because his fans aren't part of the community, or the community for that matter.

If you use your brain he's obviously not talking about fans and all of the community.


If you use yours, and read the quote and the context, you would realize he is talking ABOUT his fans.

Who is pandaring or posing with BM to get exposure ? Idra
Who are you watching ? Idra
What was his point ? That the "community" followed people who entertain them instead of skill. And those are the fucks.

So yes, it is about YOU and his fans.

The delusion of the idra fans is amazing.

Reading comprehension doesn't seem to be the strong suit of some of the Idra apologists.
Some people just enjoy being treated like sh*t, I guess.


If you ever watch the chat during WCS America like 90 percent of it is a bunch of Idra fans spamming about him even if he isn't playing, aka trolling. He built up quite an odd following.
McBengt
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1684 Posts
May 10 2013 14:55 GMT
#3066
On May 10 2013 23:48 Simsons2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 23:46 Chicken Chaser wrote:
On May 10 2013 23:44 9-BiT wrote:
This is probably the dumbest thing EG has done to date, and that's really saying something. Idra was an entertainer, not really a player. In the same way that wrestling has those wrestlers that everyone loves to hate, starcraft has idra. To kick him because people hated him is stupid, he's an entertainer, just like geoff is.


I think the point was he was bragging about being paid for being a dick. That crossed the line.


What line? He was simply telling the truth.


No, he actually wasn't. As it turns out, EG was not paying him to be a dick, hence they removed him from the team. TL should really stop beating itself up so much, it's one of the better online gaming communities to be sure, and did not deserve that kind of douchebaggery.

And he very likely was not sacked because of one errant comment, this has to be an accumulation of incidents, involving fans, teammates, and even blizzard employees. Straw, camel and all that jazz.
"My twelve year old will out-reason Bill Maher when it comes to understanding, you know, what, uh, how to logic work" - Rick Santorum
Warpath
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1242 Posts
May 10 2013 14:55 GMT
#3067
On May 10 2013 23:38 AlgeriaT wrote:
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On May 10 2013 23:28 megid wrote:
I just need to put here the best comment of reddit thread:

Tunesz 2561 points 16 hours ago

I guess they,
( •_•)>⌐■-■
Released the Gracken.
(⌐■_■)

Sorry, it's too awesome to let it pass.

Man, can someone just put up a counter for how many times that joke has been used in this thread? I think we're nearly breaking a hundred :/


Approx 70
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2781 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 14:57:16
May 10 2013 14:55 GMT
#3068
On May 10 2013 23:53 Rollora wrote:
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On May 10 2013 18:55 gamerdude12345 wrote:
What I predict will happen

1. Idra race changes to Terran
2. Idra uses his saved up cash to fly to korea
3. iloveoov and Boxer decide to take him on as a protege
4. He joins SKT T1
5. He changes his name to Idrajit
6. He all-kills EG-TL in the finals of Proleague; SKT T1 vs EGTL

you should have saved the 1. for a later one to bring some klimax into it.
Idra would never change to a weaker race, he changed from T to Z cause it looked easier to him, and because we see foreigner struggling when playing T and winning against Koreans when playing P or Z, I assume he was right with his decision.


"I chose Zerg because Artosis is an asshole."

IdrA chose Z because he thought it would be the HARDEST race that rewarded mechanics the most, not the other way around.

Still a bit shocked that this happened. A bit sudden. I am, like most, waiting to see what IdrA says/does.
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
Hattori_Hanzo
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore1229 Posts
May 10 2013 14:55 GMT
#3069
On May 10 2013 23:49 farnham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 23:44 9-BiT wrote:
This is probably the dumbest thing EG has done to date, and that's really saying something. Idra was an entertainer, not really a player. In the same way that wrestling has those wrestlers that everyone loves to hate, starcraft has idra. To kick him because people hated him is stupid, he's an entertainer, just like geoff is.

to be a good heel you also have to be on the stage and look intimidating.

you have to be triple H not doink the clown or mordecai


Exactly, no placing in 9 months, as well as ragequitting after being hit by an SM while on 5 bases http://www.twitch.tv/wcs_america/b/400977752?t=40m50s and full tech is hardly intimidating.
Cauterize the area
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
May 10 2013 14:57 GMT
#3070
On May 10 2013 23:54 Warlock40 wrote:
So, were people actually outraged by what IdrA said and contacting sponsors or something? Did Garfield act based on community reaction demanding blood? Or did he act preemptively? Because it seems almost like this was all too convenient, as if he had already planned to release IdrA and this gave him a great excuse.

I think it's more that they were sick of him pulling that shit again and again and again despite their probable intervention, and finally decided "fuck it, this is not how we want our professional organization to look."
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
matt93
Profile Joined January 2013
Australia32 Posts
May 10 2013 14:58 GMT
#3071
On May 10 2013 23:55 iloveav wrote:
Bye Bye mister bad manner.
EG is a strage team. It has some of the best foreginers, great Korean stars.... yet somehow they dont look too motivated.

Hell... there are like... no EG-TL players taht actually play as of late in the GSTL.
I mean... im sure they ratehr focus on foreigner events where they can actually win and get some prize money, but still...


There would be no EG-TL players in the GSTL because EG-TL is not in the GSTL, bit hard to show up in a competition you're not a part of.
I'm bad, really bad but I'll blame it on my internet.
Warlock40
Profile Joined September 2011
601 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 14:58:54
May 10 2013 14:58 GMT
#3072
On May 10 2013 23:55 McBengt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 23:48 Simsons2 wrote:
On May 10 2013 23:46 Chicken Chaser wrote:
On May 10 2013 23:44 9-BiT wrote:
This is probably the dumbest thing EG has done to date, and that's really saying something. Idra was an entertainer, not really a player. In the same way that wrestling has those wrestlers that everyone loves to hate, starcraft has idra. To kick him because people hated him is stupid, he's an entertainer, just like geoff is.


I think the point was he was bragging about being paid for being a dick. That crossed the line.


What line? He was simply telling the truth.


No, he actually wasn't. As it turns out, EG was not paying him to be a dick, hence they removed him from the team. TL should really stop beating itself up so much, it's one of the better online gaming communities to be sure, and did not deserve that kind of douchebaggery.

And he very likely was not sacked because of one errant comment, this has to be an accumulation of incidents, involving fans, teammates, and even blizzard employees. Straw, camel and all that jazz.


Maybe he was. Garfield had him terminated not because he was wrong, but because he was right, and he didn't want people knowing about it. Because if IdrA was right, then that would mean he was making confidential company practice public. If you're paying someone to be a villain, you don't want people to know he's only acting, because that pretty much spoils the whole setup and reason why you are paying him in the first place.
Thrillhouse
Profile Joined December 2010
United States27 Posts
May 10 2013 14:58 GMT
#3073
In the same way that wrestling has those wrestlers that everyone loves to hate, starcraft has idra. To kick him because people hated him is stupid, he's an entertainer, just like geoff is.


Yeah, I think the pro wrestling analogy is surprisingly apt, but this situation would be like if one of those bad guy wrestlers started telling the crowd that wrestling is fake and they're all a bunch of idiots for watching. The next time you saw that guy, you wouldn't know it because he'd be one of The Conquistadors. (Google it.)
You want excitement?! Shove THIS up your stocking!!
TR
Profile Joined February 2011
2320 Posts
May 10 2013 14:58 GMT
#3074
Zeritas
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Germany24 Posts
May 10 2013 14:58 GMT
#3075
Good step from EG.

Some people wonder why people smile at eSport, while supporting players like idra. If eSports wants to grow, you have to get rid of such inmature players, so that eSports can be taken more serious from the rest of the world.

And if with Idras release will lose Fans to SC2, then its okay for me and a lot of other people i guess. Seriously, i dont want SC2 to be like "WWE" (wrestling) but more like Chess. And thats also for the Audience.

Imagine your favourite Football (soccer) player would insult all his fans. I would kick his ass and wish him nothing good. Because its the Fans that make his life and job possible.

I am 38 and do not need such childish and inmature behaviour of an Kid, when i want to see a good Starcraft 2 tournament.

!
Simsons2
Profile Joined March 2013
Latvia73 Posts
May 10 2013 14:58 GMT
#3076
On May 10 2013 23:55 McBengt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 23:48 Simsons2 wrote:
On May 10 2013 23:46 Chicken Chaser wrote:
On May 10 2013 23:44 9-BiT wrote:
This is probably the dumbest thing EG has done to date, and that's really saying something. Idra was an entertainer, not really a player. In the same way that wrestling has those wrestlers that everyone loves to hate, starcraft has idra. To kick him because people hated him is stupid, he's an entertainer, just like geoff is.


I think the point was he was bragging about being paid for being a dick. That crossed the line.


What line? He was simply telling the truth.


No, he actually wasn't. As it turns out, EG was not paying him to be a dick, hence they removed him from the team. TL should really stop beating itself up so much, it's one of the better online gaming communities to be sure, and did not deserve that kind of douchebaggery.

And he very likely was not sacked because of one errant comment, this has to be an accumulation of incidents, involving fans, teammates, and even blizzard employees. Straw, camel and all that jazz.


Him being a dick = exposure for sponsors , people buying their stuff is probably one reasons why he stayed in EG for so long so in matter of fact that is true they were paying him for being this way while not straight up saying you are to bm/be dick , but essentially it's the same.
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
May 10 2013 15:01 GMT
#3077
oooooo noooooo.......eg just lost the fandom of a legion of angry middleshcool-aged boys with no jobs or money to spend on their sponsors productssssssss anywaysssss....what was eg thinking?!?!?1

User was warned for this post
iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1482 Posts
May 10 2013 15:01 GMT
#3078
On a side note, i Always thoguht he was overrated.
Sure in the beta he was good, but cant say i saw him on a level like Huk, Naniwa, stephano or thorzain in their prime time.
aka LRM)Cats_Paw.
Acertos
Profile Joined February 2012
France852 Posts
May 10 2013 15:01 GMT
#3079
On May 10 2013 23:58 Simsons2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 23:55 McBengt wrote:
On May 10 2013 23:48 Simsons2 wrote:
On May 10 2013 23:46 Chicken Chaser wrote:
On May 10 2013 23:44 9-BiT wrote:
This is probably the dumbest thing EG has done to date, and that's really saying something. Idra was an entertainer, not really a player. In the same way that wrestling has those wrestlers that everyone loves to hate, starcraft has idra. To kick him because people hated him is stupid, he's an entertainer, just like geoff is.


I think the point was he was bragging about being paid for being a dick. That crossed the line.


What line? He was simply telling the truth.


No, he actually wasn't. As it turns out, EG was not paying him to be a dick, hence they removed him from the team. TL should really stop beating itself up so much, it's one of the better online gaming communities to be sure, and did not deserve that kind of douchebaggery.

And he very likely was not sacked because of one errant comment, this has to be an accumulation of incidents, involving fans, teammates, and even blizzard employees. Straw, camel and all that jazz.


Him being a dick = exposure for sponsors , people buying their stuff is probably one reasons why he stayed in EG for so long so in matter of fact that is true they were paying him for being this way while not straight up saying you are to bm/be dick , but essentially it's the same.

It's important to note that it is a bad kind of exposure. Just a tv reality show where people with no talent get paid alot and are being dicks to everyone. They never last long.
Hitch-22
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada753 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 15:06:12
May 10 2013 15:03 GMT
#3080
On May 11 2013 00:01 iloveav wrote:
On a side note, i Always thoguht he was overrated.
Sure in the beta he was good, but cant say i saw him on a level like Huk, Naniwa, stephano or thorzain in their prime time.

Hey is only 27th in prize money in SC2 : P Probably a bit overrated, you usually can only get within that range by losing tournaments etc etc
/sarcasim

He fell off in 2011 not the beta

On May 11 2013 00:01 stratmatt wrote:
oooooo noooooo.......eg just lost the fandom of a legion of angry middleshcool-aged boys with no jobs or money to spend on their sponsors productssssssss anywaysssss....what was eg thinking?!?!?1


Glad they removed Idra for bad mouthing the community, proceeds to stereotype and bad mouth a section of the community.

You sir are one of the examples in the 'community' of the people we strive to eliminate at every corner, the hyperbolic hypocritical moron who smashes a player for doing one thing and then proceeds to do a similar thing himself. Do try to clean that up sir.
"We all let our sword do the talking for us once in awhile I guess" - Bregor, the legendary critical striker and critical misser who triple crits 2 horses with 1 arrow but lands 3 1's in a row
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