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RE: PhysicsLee and the Impulse eSports Scandal - Page 2

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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
April 18 2013 22:40 GMT
#21
On April 19 2013 07:38 iMpMarine wrote:
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On April 19 2013 07:36 Gamegene wrote:
Don't see the need for the thread when the vast majority of readers aren't going to be aware of the "scandal" in the first place.

Would have been more efficient to just apologize on Skype and Battlenet and PMs zzz.


This is not an apology as that would indicate some level of guilt. It is simply a statement in regards to a Reddit post which is linked at the top.


Then why post this "clarification/statement" here instead of Reddit.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 22:55:48
April 18 2013 22:55 GMT
#22
On April 19 2013 07:40 Gamegene wrote:
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On April 19 2013 07:38 iMpMarine wrote:
On April 19 2013 07:36 Gamegene wrote:
Don't see the need for the thread when the vast majority of readers aren't going to be aware of the "scandal" in the first place.

Would have been more efficient to just apologize on Skype and Battlenet and PMs zzz.


This is not an apology as that would indicate some level of guilt. It is simply a statement in regards to a Reddit post which is linked at the top.


Then why post this "clarification/statement" here instead of Reddit.

Because he assumed people here are into sc2 and know of the situation at lower echelons too, seems like reddit is more indepth with the scene.
oh, hai
TheGiftedApe
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1243 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 23:07:30
April 18 2013 23:05 GMT
#23
On April 19 2013 07:40 Gamegene wrote:
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On April 19 2013 07:38 iMpMarine wrote:
On April 19 2013 07:36 Gamegene wrote:
Don't see the need for the thread when the vast majority of readers aren't going to be aware of the "scandal" in the first place.

Would have been more efficient to just apologize on Skype and Battlenet and PMs zzz.


This is not an apology as that would indicate some level of guilt. It is simply a statement in regards to a Reddit post which is linked at the top.


Then why post this "clarification/statement" here instead of Reddit.


reddit r/starcraft staff informed people to move the discussion over too the TL.net hacker thread.

I think the thread is very pertinent to tl.net since the URTL is currently featured on TL.net and iMp is one of the competing teams.

all that being said, it is big of you marine to handle things in such a manner and to reach out for help to the community. I hope this issue can be positively resolved soon for all parties involved.
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orangeorange
Profile Joined October 2012
134 Posts
April 18 2013 23:27 GMT
#24
On April 19 2013 07:37 NrG.NeverExpo wrote:
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On April 19 2013 04:48 orangeorange wrote:
Physics is a boosted account - he has a booster play both GM ladder games and clanwars for him. The booster uses a production tab hack but does not maphack, so the replays generally look fine (it's just that he always seems lucky in countering builds). Source: I know the guy who boosts his account and I've been following this situation for some time wondering when it would come to light.

Very, very easy way to prove this for yourself:

Tell physics to send you the replays from the games he played on stream yesterday (where he went 0-8), or any other games where you KNOW 100% that it's him. This would exclude clanwar reps where he all-killed, GM ladder games that are on replay sites like drop.sc, etc.

Compare the two batches of replays in SC2gears. They will be nothing alike.

The booster has good mechanics, but his apm is much lower (200-250 or so). The guy who you know as physics has different hotkeys and much higher apm (300-400+, because he spams a lot) but has much worse mechanics and is a significantly worse player overall.

There, that's it. You can even tell looking at Physics' match history on battlenet. Whenever he's on one of his insane ladder winstreaks, or playing a clanwar game, his apm will be in the 200's. Whenever it's him playing as himself, it will be in the 400's. The pattern will match up 100%.

If you want to discuss further, PM me.

Since you the know guy "boosting" you should get them to make an announcement about it, or out them yourself. Both of them are in the wrong here if it's true, imo.


I completely agree with you about everyone involved being in the wrong. Any such announcement would probably have to come from Physics himself though. Some more information - the "booster" is one of two people who run a leveling service together that's advertised on various hacking websites. They certainly won't make an announcement about Physics themselves, as their whole "business" is based around discretely/anonymously leveling people's accounts for them. People would stop paying them. They've also probably make a nice sum of money from playing for Physics over the past few months and have zero interest (and nothing to gain) in turning on him now.

I could certainly out them over PM (I can't/won't link to a hacking website here, obviously), but it wouldn't do much. The two players are both European terrans but are not "known" players in the scene. They're basically anonymous high master's/borderline low GM players without hacks.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
April 18 2013 23:28 GMT
#25
hmm sounds confusing. Good luck at sorting that stuff out. Quiet happy I play in a region were people doing stuff like this usually pass by or are not good at hiding this so they will get sorted out.

Also good decision to put the suspected one on a break from official clanwars. Imo you handle this situation fairly well. Team can consider themself lucky to have such a dedicated one managing everything.
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 23:29:46
April 18 2013 23:29 GMT
#26
Wow, after watching that 1v1 stream, I would certainly agree he is not at a GM level.

And ggtracker is a cool site..i know I am no where near GM level, but apparently some of my games my spending lvl is top GM and my avg is at the lvl I am at (masters) ....which goes to show that having a top plat spending is quite bad (for a supposed GM player)
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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
April 18 2013 23:55 GMT
#27
On April 19 2013 08:05 TheGiftedApe wrote:
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On April 19 2013 07:40 Gamegene wrote:
On April 19 2013 07:38 iMpMarine wrote:
On April 19 2013 07:36 Gamegene wrote:
Don't see the need for the thread when the vast majority of readers aren't going to be aware of the "scandal" in the first place.

Would have been more efficient to just apologize on Skype and Battlenet and PMs zzz.


This is not an apology as that would indicate some level of guilt. It is simply a statement in regards to a Reddit post which is linked at the top.


Then why post this "clarification/statement" here instead of Reddit.


reddit r/starcraft staff informed people to move the discussion over too the TL.net hacker thread.

I think the thread is very pertinent to tl.net since the URTL is currently featured on TL.net and iMp is one of the competing teams.

all that being said, it is big of you marine to handle things in such a manner and to reach out for help to the community. I hope this issue can be positively resolved soon for all parties involved.


then post in that thread instead of wasting valuable bump space with this thread. hardly anyone watches URTL zzz.

User was warned for this post
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
-Switch-
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada506 Posts
April 19 2013 00:00 GMT
#28
drawing huge attention to something no one seemed to know anything about. seems like a bad PR for impulse. hope this gets sorted out though.
Zennith
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States795 Posts
April 19 2013 00:06 GMT
#29
URTL's been hanging around a hundred to two hundred viewers every match. Given that there are at least two a night, that seems like pretty damn decent viewership for a semi-pro league.
Sentinel Gaming Competitive Team Manager | 1500+ points Masters Zerg | twitch.tv/zennith6
iMpMarine
Profile Joined December 2011
United States18 Posts
April 19 2013 11:57 GMT
#30
On April 19 2013 09:00 -Switch- wrote:
drawing huge attention to something no one seemed to know anything about. seems like a bad PR for impulse. hope this gets sorted out though.


It is not as much about PR for me as it is about responding to accusations. I think often in the StarCraft 2 scene it is easy for people to say things that are blatantly false or misrepresentations. Either way they spread as rumors through the community that you are a part of, and like a game of telephone you play as a kid many other rumors are branched off. I just wanted to at least make an attempt to put the truth out there in response to the Reddit post that was made against my team.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
April 19 2013 12:17 GMT
#31
Glad to see you handling business as always Marine. Whatever happens here I feel you're going about things the right way, standing by your player until he's been proven guilty that kind of loyalty is admirable in a manager.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3815 Posts
April 19 2013 12:35 GMT
#32
The reddit post has been removed?
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bGr.MetHiX
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria511 Posts
April 19 2013 12:52 GMT
#33
id go with orangeorange on this one.
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stoicRegret
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada206 Posts
April 20 2013 22:07 GMT
#34
A friend of mine was just d/c hacked in wcs bracket. Does anyone know what school the hacker goes to?
KalinovSC2
Profile Joined January 2013
52 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 22:45:30
April 20 2013 22:31 GMT
#35
OrangeOrange is correct. I have information (replays where hotkeys match a unknown Polish Terran players - he has a TLPD. - Skype logs from the people orangeorange described saying they play on this account, and more) Apparently Physicslee is playing in WCS today and some of the people who played him are already reporting fishy activity. I have very good evidence on this - but I do not know who to give this too.

EDIT: I'm not in WCS today but I think it would be important for proper admins of it to see this information.
Shin_Gouki
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States313 Posts
April 20 2013 22:43 GMT
#36
Everyone and their grandmother knows Physics is a hacker. Can't wait for this filth to be banned.
Death comes in many forms
Zoku
Profile Joined November 2010
307 Posts
April 20 2013 22:44 GMT
#37
You have "evidence"? Then post it, and people can determine whether or not the play is legit. Until then, he is innocent until proven guilty. Stop trying to ruin a players reputation/career because you lost to a superior opponent.
KalinovSC2
Profile Joined January 2013
52 Posts
April 20 2013 22:45 GMT
#38
On April 21 2013 07:43 Shin_Gouki wrote:
Everyone and their grandmother knows Physics is a hacker. Can't wait for this filth to be banned.


Doesn't stop him from taking a WCS spot and knocking people out.
Shin_Gouki
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States313 Posts
April 20 2013 22:47 GMT
#39
On April 21 2013 07:45 KalinovSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 07:43 Shin_Gouki wrote:
Everyone and their grandmother knows Physics is a hacker. Can't wait for this filth to be banned.


Doesn't stop him from taking a WCS spot and knocking people out.


Because people fail to look into it for themselves and give confirmations. "Oh he does well here, so he must be legit." Lets ignore his overall playstyle, the fact he barely scouts, has diamond level spending, and on top of that, has two different sets of hotkeys when he's laddering and when he's streaming.
Death comes in many forms
KalinovSC2
Profile Joined January 2013
52 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 22:51:57
April 20 2013 22:49 GMT
#40
On April 21 2013 07:44 Zoku wrote:
You have "evidence"? Then post it, and people can determine whether or not the play is legit. Until then, he is innocent until proven guilty. Stop trying to ruin a players reputation/career because you lost to a superior opponent.



If you read my post I stated I am not playing in WCS; I merely have this evidence and noticed he was playing in WCS. The point of my post is trying to figure out who to give this information to so they can make the final decision. So maybe you should rethink your aggressive post at me?

Also; my evidence is not about him hacking as much as it is about another player using his account.
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