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WCS 2013 Announced - April 3rd - Page 52

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
April 03 2013 02:35 GMT
#1021
Also the complaints of koreans playing in NA/EU is a bit silly.

If you don't like it fucking get off your butt and practice. The guys who come over and dominate will do it because they practice very hard not because they are from Korea
Zerg for Life
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 03 2013 02:35 GMT
#1022
On April 03 2013 11:33 Lunareste wrote:
So, yes or no. Starting tomorrow I can watch the GSL Code S in 720p for FREE? When GSL ends and OSL begins, I can watch the OSL in 720p for FREE?


I'm going to say yes, on twitch.tv. I'm not going to be buying a GSL ticket if I can watch on twitch for free, though. I think the money Blizzard is giving GOM and OGN is to make up for them not selling tickets for these seasons.

I would expect refunds from gomtv if they are doing free 720p on twitch for gsl.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
April 03 2013 02:36 GMT
#1023
The free broadcast at 720 is absolutely awesome. Thanks for that.
o choro é livre
Hikari
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
1914 Posts
April 03 2013 02:36 GMT
#1024
does that mean stuff like GSL finals will be free on 720?
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
April 03 2013 02:36 GMT
#1025
On April 03 2013 11:34 achan1058 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 11:32 Noocta wrote:
Only thing I dislike : still a lot of online play.
Online play is so hard to hype now. Look only at how TSL4 kinda flopped.

It's difficult to gather everyone in EU or NA into a place for months.

ro16 and beyond will be offline in studio.
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
April 03 2013 02:36 GMT
#1026
Q: How will this affect Korean players's oportunities playing in foreign tournaments?

lol more like vacation
rshawers
Profile Joined January 2013
United States36 Posts
April 03 2013 02:36 GMT
#1027
Guys, correct me if im wrong, regular season gives players points so they can get in region finals, and then they fight for a spot in the world finals in the regional finals?
Zerg OP
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
April 03 2013 02:36 GMT
#1028
On April 03 2013 11:36 Hikari wrote:
does that mean stuff like GSL finals will be free on 720?


yes
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
April 03 2013 02:36 GMT
#1029
On April 03 2013 11:35 Grettin wrote:
Shaun Clark ‏@ApolloSC2 17s
Koreans do NOT need to move aboard, they can play in NA/EU leagues from Korea if they want.


The more and more I hear, the more and more I think Axiom's going to play NA and go to MLG. I think it just makes sense.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 02:37:21
April 03 2013 02:36 GMT
#1030
On April 03 2013 11:35 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 11:33 Lunareste wrote:
So, yes or no. Starting tomorrow I can watch the GSL Code S in 720p for FREE? When GSL ends and OSL begins, I can watch the OSL in 720p for FREE?


I'm going to say yes, on twitch.tv. I'm not going to be buying a GSL ticket if I can watch on twitch for free, though. I think the money Blizzard is giving GOM and OGN is to make up for them not selling tickets for these seasons.

I would expect refunds from gomtv if they are doing free 720p on twitch for gsl.

I'm hoping if it's free maybe they'll give everyone who bought a ticket a coupon for a free ticket to the non WCS season of GSL if that happens
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
April 03 2013 02:36 GMT
#1031
On April 03 2013 11:32 MCXD wrote:
Honestly the best way to think about it is like this:

Weekend tourneys are not affected.
GSL and OSL are not affected, other than they are working their schedules around each other and have new casting/broadcast partnerships.
Team leagues are not affected.

GSL and OSL are collectively WCS KR.
MLG is making an "American GSL" for Americans. This is WCS NA.
ESL is making a "European GSL" for Europeans. This is WCS EU.

WCS KR, WCS NA and WCS EU provide players for WCS Finals. There are three WCS finals.
Getting good results in the WCS finals gives you points.
Additionally, other events like Dreamhack, Iron Squid and NASL, will also give you points.
Top 16 in points after 3 WCS seasons are invited to the WCS Grand final are Blizzcon at the end of the year.

All of the WCS KR, NA, and EU content will be broadcast free for 720p, every day.


Thanks for the summarization, seems accurate to a dot. So the fears of Koreans dominating the scene is still founded because they can attend other tournaments and accumulate points towards the WCS finals. At least the independent tournaments are still connected to WCS so it won't leave them out.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
April 03 2013 02:36 GMT
#1032
On April 03 2013 11:35 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 11:33 Lunareste wrote:
So, yes or no. Starting tomorrow I can watch the GSL Code S in 720p for FREE? When GSL ends and OSL begins, I can watch the OSL in 720p for FREE?


I'm going to say yes, on twitch.tv. I'm not going to be buying a GSL ticket if I can watch on twitch for free, though. I think the money Blizzard is giving GOM and OGN is to make up for them not selling tickets for these seasons.

I would expect refunds from gomtv if they are doing free 720p on twitch for gsl.

Are VOD's free though?
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 03 2013 02:36 GMT
#1033
On April 03 2013 11:32 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 11:32 StarVe wrote:
On April 03 2013 11:29 stuchiu wrote:
Which Koreans are living in EU now?

ForGG.

I'm still bummed about GSL only having two seasons this year. Woah, what a change.

There was an article posted today that they are having 4 seasons. It seems like they just wont all be WCS events. They need 4 finals for the Hot6 Cup (the new blizzard cup thing)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406011


Gamespot article says
Another season of GSL Code S will not take place until OSL is over, and act as the third and final WCS Korea season before the Global Finals.

I forgot to count the one that already happened, so probably three seasons with OSL acting as the fourth you mentioned.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
April 03 2013 02:36 GMT
#1034
Q: How will the the Korean broadcasts work for OGN/GomTV?

A: The two broadcasters will take turns holding the WCS korea tourneys. OGN will receive feed from GomTV, but use theri own casters.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
April 03 2013 02:36 GMT
#1035
Player randomly winning a tournament ?
Heh.. FruitDealer ? :p
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 03 2013 02:36 GMT
#1036
After thinking about it for a little bit, I prefer Code B, Code A and Code S to challenger, premier and whatever. We already think about players in those terms anyway, it differentiates SC2 from LCS, and all it does is remind me of that weird convoluted end of IPTL.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 03 2013 02:37 GMT
#1037
Twitch gsl stream in 720p....amazing
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 02:37:51
April 03 2013 02:37 GMT
#1038
On April 03 2013 11:32 Noocta wrote:
Only thing I dislike : still a lot of online play.
Online play is so hard to hype now. Look only at how TSL4 kinda flopped.


To be fair there was a lot of other reasons why the TSL4 flopped. I don't like online play either as much. Look at the fantastic crowd in France for one.

Anyway, nothing really changes. The Koreans will still dominate and I don't see how Europeans let alone Americans will improve that much compared to team games like LoL and DotA where it takes actual teamwork and communication to execute.

Dignitas and CLG EU (now EG) learned a ton on their trips to Asia.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
April 03 2013 02:37 GMT
#1039
On April 03 2013 11:33 rasnj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 11:31 sitromit wrote:
On April 03 2013 11:27 rasnj wrote:
On April 03 2013 11:24 m0ck wrote:
Exclusivity is a really big fucking mistake - the model to study is tennis, goddamnit.

How about soccer? A pretty popular sport in Europe. A lot of countries have thriving national leagues, but many get smashed in champions league. Seems like it could work very well.

The stars themselves are not region restricted. You don't have to watch only English players if you live in England.

Exactly as in this new tournament format for SC2 where Korean stars can train in NA or EU. The only difference is that teams can split up over different regions in SC2.


And you'll get the Koreans their work visas? Why do you think Koreans in foreigner teams who come to the US all go back after 3 months?
peekn
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1152 Posts
April 03 2013 02:37 GMT
#1040
This is very exciting can't wait to start watching.
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