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On March 26 2013 06:33 Pimpmuckl wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 05:50 dAPhREAk wrote:On March 26 2013 05:42 LighT. wrote:
Also to the people who say
MLG would be fine without the koreans..
You're being delusional.
Yes, they'd likely be fine as an organization but there would be a sharp drop off in viewership.
Seriously..would you watch the best of the best going at it in the RO8s where every matchup seems to be Code S Finals material?
Or..would you see Idra vs Demuslim in Ro4?
:/.. i would definitely watch idra vs demuslim in ro4. generally, i see higher numbers for foreigner streamers than korean streamers so the idea that people wont watch an all foreigner tournament is silly. i wont speculate on how much of a drop in viewership there would be, but i imagine it would drop, just not sure how much. I would watch the shit out of Flash vs Life while i wouldn't watch Life stream. It's just different to a point. And to the question: I would much prefer Flash vs Life finals over IdrA Demuslim. While i love to watch IdrA or Demuslim stream, i want the craziest micro with sickest macro you can get on the planet in a final. If that is displayed by a foreigner, that's the icing on the cake. nomnom. Now im hungry TT.
Thats the thing
If the best players in SC2 were NA/Euro players, and koreans were getting in the way somehow, by all means, make the changes. But quite simply, the koreans are the best of the best and why go for an inferior product for the sake of having more "home-grown" talent in the tournament and discriminating based on region.
Tournaments like WCG, MLG, WCS, IPL etc should be about the best of the best in the world against each other and by cutting out the koreans youre basically taking that concept away.
of couse this is all hypothetical talks.
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Okay, all the progamers and community figures on twitter being tease about this on Twitter is really starting to get on my nerves.
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On March 26 2013 06:24 LighT. wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 06:22 triforks wrote:
whatever happens its gonna be good.
finally blizz getting involved like they should be. This is both a good and bad thing. Last time they got involved, they wrecked havoc.
what did they do?
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On March 26 2013 06:39 askmc70 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 06:24 LighT. wrote:On March 26 2013 06:22 triforks wrote:
whatever happens its gonna be good.
finally blizz getting involved like they should be. This is both a good and bad thing. Last time they got involved, they wrecked havoc. what did they do?
They pushed proleague to stop broodwar and start SC2.,
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On March 26 2013 06:42 Noocta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 06:39 askmc70 wrote:On March 26 2013 06:24 LighT. wrote:On March 26 2013 06:22 triforks wrote:
whatever happens its gonna be good.
finally blizz getting involved like they should be. This is both a good and bad thing. Last time they got involved, they wrecked havoc. what did they do? They pushed proleague to stop broodwar and start SC2.,
Lol!
I guess I meant before that
That whole copyright fiasco where KeSPA and Blizzard fought for ages where nobody really came out a winner, with both parties being quite sour with each other.
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Is anyone else optimistic about this as I am? I see so much doom and gloom comments already before things play out. I mean I seen for years people wanted Blizzard to get more involved in Esports and here they are....It is almost like there is a daily requirement of whining.
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On March 26 2013 06:39 Noocta wrote:
Okay, all the progamers and community figures on twitter being tease about this on Twitter is really starting to get on my nerves.
Good thing for me I don't pay attention to Twitter or Facebook but in either case it should be big!
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On March 26 2013 06:39 Noocta wrote:
Okay, all the progamers and community figures on twitter being tease about this on Twitter is really starting to get on my nerves.
Can you provide us some links ? I don't know whick accounts to check.
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On March 26 2013 06:45 LighT. wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 06:42 Noocta wrote:On March 26 2013 06:39 askmc70 wrote:On March 26 2013 06:24 LighT. wrote:On March 26 2013 06:22 triforks wrote:
whatever happens its gonna be good.
finally blizz getting involved like they should be. This is both a good and bad thing. Last time they got involved, they wrecked havoc. what did they do? They pushed proleague to stop broodwar and start SC2., Lol! I guess I meant before that That whole copyright fiasco where KeSPA and Blizzard fought for ages where nobody really came out a winner, with both parties being quite sour with each other.
Oh, that one.
Well, can't blame Blizzard when your own game is making a shit ton of money and you can't claim anything.
And people still wonder why Blizz won't give up LAN when you know what Kespa did with it.
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We all wait with baited breath as the announcement takes its form. It's exciting to hear that some changes in the Korean SC2 scene will made.
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On March 26 2013 05:42 LighT. wrote:
Also to the people who say
MLG would be fine without the koreans..
You're being delusional.
Yes, they'd likely be fine as an organization but there would be a sharp drop off in viewership.
Seriously..would you watch the best of the best going at it in the RO8s where every matchup seems to be Code S Finals material?
Or..would you see Idra vs Demuslim in Ro4?
:/..
MLG had the right balance in 2011 when they only invited 4 Koreans per tournament. (more could come if they paid their own way) Of course MLG had a lot of problems in 2011, what with extended series and their awful point system, but the Koreans:Foreigners ratio was one thing they did right.
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On March 26 2013 06:45 mango_destroyer wrote:
Is anyone else optimistic about this as I am? I see so much doom and gloom comments already before things play out. I mean I seen for years people wanted Blizzard to get more involved in Esports and here they are....It is almost like there is a daily requirement of whining.
I am also totally optimistic about this. Blizzard seems to put a lot of effort and money in this, and from what i see SC2 does need it in Korea. I just hope it will also be good for the players, which are the most important part. If for some reason playing SC2 gets even less profitable for the korean players, then i'm sure a lot of people will stop playing. But i really doubt Blizzard is doing shit.
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On March 26 2013 06:48 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 06:39 Noocta wrote:
Okay, all the progamers and community figures on twitter being tease about this on Twitter is really starting to get on my nerves. Can you provide us some links ? I don't know whick accounts to check.
I kinda lost some because I have way too many twitter following
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So up until now we don't know if:
-it's bad or good news
-OSL will do a SC2 tournament or not
What do we know? Nothing.
I can't wait 1 week for probably the biggest news in SC2 history. 
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On March 26 2013 06:54 Locke- wrote:So up until now we don't know if: -it's bad or good news -OSL will do a SC2 tournament or not What do we know? Nothing. I can't wait 1 week for probably the biggest news in SC2 history.
Yeah this announcement of an announcement comes a bit early T_T...
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On March 26 2013 06:48 Noocta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 06:45 LighT. wrote:On March 26 2013 06:42 Noocta wrote:On March 26 2013 06:39 askmc70 wrote:On March 26 2013 06:24 LighT. wrote:On March 26 2013 06:22 triforks wrote:
whatever happens its gonna be good.
finally blizz getting involved like they should be. This is both a good and bad thing. Last time they got involved, they wrecked havoc. what did they do? They pushed proleague to stop broodwar and start SC2., Lol! I guess I meant before that That whole copyright fiasco where KeSPA and Blizzard fought for ages where nobody really came out a winner, with both parties being quite sour with each other. Oh, that one. Well, can't blame Blizzard when your own game is making a shit ton of money and you can't claim anything. And people still wonder why Blizz won't give up LAN when you know what Kespa did with it.
The game was not making a shit ton of money. Blizz wanted money, but there wasn't any to be had really.
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kennigit pretty much sums it up: i know, but i wont tell you, but i wanted to make sure you know that i know. lol.
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On March 26 2013 06:54 Locke- wrote:So up until now we don't know if: -it's bad or good news -OSL will do a SC2 tournament or not What do we know? Nothing. I can't wait 1 week for probably the biggest news in SC2 history.
According to Scarlett earlier in this thread, OSL is staying, SPL and GSTL aren't getting any changes.
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so if Scarlett knows and is telling the truth, all the Korean leagues will apparently remain unchanged.
i seriously have no idea what the big change could be then, aside from maybe the final Code S seed being Dustin Browder's grandmom.
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Thanks ! But I'm kinda lost with the totally different reactions we've had today.
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