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Hey all!
I'm not quite sure whether this should be in blogs, or whether it's OK being here, but please move if not appropriate!
So this has sort of been a problem for quite some time in the past already, but it's probably a bit more prominent of late - and it's an issue about getting Live Report OPs up and updating them in a timely manner.
I'm not a fan of pointing out names, but in the past few months there have been many times in which Live Report OPs have gone up late, or they are not updated. Such times make for a poor experience watching SC2 - after all, a significant portion of the fun we can get from watching the games live is also participating in the Live Report thread. It's fun to be swept up in the epicness of the games, build hype, or even balance/caster whine as necessary!
So when the Live Reports are up late (e.g. SPL and Code A are the worst culprits) or not updated it makes for a sad experience 
I know that usually there are a few reliable people who are good with this (Shellshock1122 and JBright come to mind, as they've done this a lot recently), but when these guys aren't available, it's a bit disappointing that the community doesn't feel like stepping up to help. A lot of the time, if Shellshock1122 can cover the event, then he'll make the thread - but if he can't, he will often let the community know in the preview or previous night's LR about this fact.
All the LRs are premade and it's a fairly simple matter to make the thread. So all I'm asking is that - if you intend to watch all the GSL/SPL games for one night, and there isn't an LR thread up a few hours beforehand - please consider making a thread! It's no fun for Shellshock1122 or anyone else to have to chase around people to do so.
When I was making LR threads a few months back, I would be able to keep it up since I was free, and when I wasn't, wonderful people like Shellshock1122 or Probe1 would be able to cover for me, stopping me from burning out. So it's only fair I guess to ask that you guys help out from time to time when the normal LR'ers are busy.
Managing one night's thread is not that difficult - all you need to do is to post polls, link LRs and update the OPs. Which sort of brings me to the other issue - please update the OPs! If you make the thread, you have a responsibility to the community to update it. Everyone will appreciate you very much for it. It gets easier with time and experience as well, and we're happy to help you through for first few OPs to get the hang of it!  .
And I guess it would be nice if we could get people to Live Report the games, or at least provide a short recap of the games as they are done . It really helps for people who come in late and want to check out results!
Sorry for the ramble, this is kind of on-the-spur, I hope you guys are OK with the points I tried to make!
TL;DR - Make LR OPs early, update them in a timely manner.
#sc2isnotdying
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I support these words of our LR bonjwa.
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I just want to add in a thank you for people who run LR threads (including non-Korea events & especially minor events). I often join a cast late, or watch only part, and a live report thread really makes the difference for catching me up to speed & making me feel fully involved in a cast.
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I wish i could help out more, but sometimes im not sure if ill be there the entire time.. thanks for all you do.
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I can help next week. Last U/D with Bomber's group was fun. If you want me to cover for anyone, send me a PM.
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Australia54784 Posts
On February 22 2013 21:37 Wintex wrote:
I can help next week. Last U/D with Bomber's group was fun. If you want me to cover for anyone, send me a PM.
good man :D
there's no need to really send PMs around to sort out days, though - if you see a GSL/SPL day not being covered yet and you're free that day, then feel free to make the thread :D shellshock would probably be the best to PM, though, if you wanted to, since I don't do a lot of this anymore and probably serve more of a consultant role than anything practical :o
On February 22 2013 21:34 partydude89 wrote:
I wish i could help out more, but sometimes im not sure if ill be there the entire time.. thanks for all you do.
very understandable, and that's definitely a concern if your time zone is not great for the korean games, so no pressure
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On February 22 2013 21:44 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 21:37 Wintex wrote:
I can help next week. Last U/D with Bomber's group was fun. If you want me to cover for anyone, send me a PM. good man :D there's no need to really send PMs around to sort out days, though - if you see a GSL/SPL day not being covered yet and you're free that day, then feel free to make the thread :D shellshock would probably be the best to PM, though, if you wanted to, since I don't do a lot of this anymore and probably serve more of a consultant role than anything practical :o
Ah. Well, if you or shellshock needs a padawan, hey.
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Great points! During today's GSL Code S Ro8 Day 2 LR, a lot of people came into the thread and asked for updates/standings etc. because the OP wasn't updated (especially people who check up on the OP from work etc.).
Big shout out to the people who take on LR threads by the way. Not an easy feat! Thank you for your contribution and dedication!
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Is there any way to get R1CH magically code a forum thing to allow a select list of people access to LR threads?
So for example if a LR thread is made by someone, other (trusted only) people can edit the live report post as well.
That would reduce the burden of one single person having to update a LR all the time.
A trusted group given LR-only editing permissions for the OPs of LR threads might work, they would be almost like a mini-Wiki type thing in a thread.
Or maybe just make a Wiki template, embed it in the OPs, and then update the Wiki to update the post.
Some way of allowing collaboration on LR threads to trusted members.
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you take this way too seriously.
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On February 22 2013 22:05 Lonyo wrote:
Is there any way to get R1CH magically code a forum thing to allow a select list of people access to LR threads?
So for example if a LR thread is made by someone, other (trusted only) people can edit the live report post as well.
That would reduce the burden of one single person having to update a LR all the time.
A trusted group given LR-only editing permissions for the OPs of LR threads might work, they would be almost like a mini-Wiki type thing in a thread.
Or maybe just make a Wiki template, embed it in the OPs, and then update the Wiki to update the post.
Some way of allowing collaboration on LR threads to trusted members.
This was sort of what I considered for a bit, but simpler in that I was going to make a shared account and give the username/password to a few people to edit, but after some thought it might be considered messy, especially if people make multiple polls or edit at the same time, etc
On February 22 2013 22:10 graNite wrote:
you take this way too seriously.
you don't take it seriously enough
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I feel like what is needed is a reliable way to know when an OP is needed. I usually arrive in the LR thread just when the games are about to start, and I don't pay attention to either the previous LR or the preview thread. I've OPed before but only when I accidentally found out that an OPer was needed.
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Australia54784 Posts
On February 22 2013 22:16 Za7oX wrote:
What's an LR?
live report thread - you've made a few before
On February 22 2013 22:16 TheBB wrote:
I feel like what is needed is a reliable way to know when an OP is needed. I usually arrive in the LR thread just when the games are about to start, and I don't pay attention to either the previous LR or the preview thread. I've OPed before but only when I accidentally found out that an OPer was needed.
they're always needed! haha i spose if you don't see one, then make one (if you have time, of course). well, not you in particular, but any well-meaning user :D
On February 22 2013 22:16 Pandemona wrote:When i make them, i am making them because no one else has. I 100% agree with you though, and it seems only Shellshook and (the guy from canada?) Bright i believe his name is. Are the only ones who put the OPs up quite a bit before hand. I tried to make mine as quick as i can but it is a bad time for EU people. NA and SEA obviously have better time zones for putting up OPs before. The only issue i had after you left the OP scene on LRs was a VOD issue, but i made a thread in website feedback and got that sorted with Shellshock and Bright (i hope it's right XD) It does take a lot of effort though to do LR OPs and update them for EU people and NA people due to timezones, but it can be done. The best thing for me to solve the issue is for TL to employ (in a sense) a person to do it, maybe pay them in fee's to get HD broadcasts of games, ala a GSL ticket and MLG/SPL one etc. Also...U SET THE FKN BAR HIGH OPTOWN rofl  (love you, gosu LR OPer <3)
mmm of course - i'm in no way telling you (or any other user) that you HAVE to do it, and always have it up early, but consider it if you can haha
On February 22 2013 22:21 Highways wrote:
Agreed.
Rather have a ugly OP that actually updates the results.
shellshock is a boss and premakes all the OPs anyway, so it's not too hard to get a presentable OP it's much smoother now than the days when people had to make one from scratch haha. it is a lot of work to premake them all though, so big props to shellshock1122!
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Agreed.
Rather have a ugly OP that actually updates the results.
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On February 22 2013 22:19 opterown wrote:live report thread - you've made a few before Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 22:16 TheBB wrote:
I feel like what is needed is a reliable way to know when an OP is needed. I usually arrive in the LR thread just when the games are about to start, and I don't pay attention to either the previous LR or the preview thread. I've OPed before but only when I accidentally found out that an OPer was needed. they're always needed! haha i spose if you don't see one, then make one (if you have time, of course). well, not you in particular, but any well-meaning user :D Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 22:16 Pandemona wrote:When i make them, i am making them because no one else has. I 100% agree with you though, and it seems only Shellshook and (the guy from canada?) Bright i believe his name is. Are the only ones who put the OPs up quite a bit before hand. I tried to make mine as quick as i can but it is a bad time for EU people. NA and SEA obviously have better time zones for putting up OPs before. The only issue i had after you left the OP scene on LRs was a VOD issue, but i made a thread in website feedback and got that sorted with Shellshock and Bright (i hope it's right XD) It does take a lot of effort though to do LR OPs and update them for EU people and NA people due to timezones, but it can be done. The best thing for me to solve the issue is for TL to employ (in a sense) a person to do it, maybe pay them in fee's to get HD broadcasts of games, ala a GSL ticket and MLG/SPL one etc. Also...U SET THE FKN BAR HIGH OPTOWN rofl (love you, gosu LR OPer <3) mmm of course - i'm in no way telling you (or any other user) that you HAVE to do it, and always have it up early, but consider it if you can haha
This is true
Didn't know things were so dire. I'll try help out a bit more.
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To be honest I've thought about helping out a few times when I've seen one not up but its REALLY hard to be able to do that given timezones. I'm usually in my office listening to the GSL whilst doing some work.
Need to move to Australia or something, heh.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
You guys know I can only do the afternoon (KR time) sessions, so if ever there are early afternoon only games I can always make the OPs. Except for Sundays. So you should tell me to make it. Or make a schedule where you assign me those OPs. I can do the evening games too, but I will be a little late updating since I will be driving from around 6pm-8pm KR time.
So yeah, I can always do early afternoon games, so assign me those if you need me to do them.
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Israel2209 Posts
On 3:29 PM - Feb 22, 2013 Wolf Schröder wrote:
Really hate when I'm out on a Friday, sneak away from the girl to go to bathroom, and the LR OP is not updated with results! T_T Come on :<
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On February 22 2013 22:31 lichter wrote:
You guys know I can only do the afternoon (KR time) sessions, so if ever there are early afternoon only games I can always make the OPs. Except for Sundays. So you should tell me to make it. Or make a schedule where you assign me those OPs. I can do the evening games too, but I will be a little late updating since I will be driving from around 6pm-8pm KR time.
So yeah, I can always do early afternoon games, so assign me those if you need me to do them.
http://www.gomtv.net/schedule/index.gom
so i guess you can do LG-IM vs. Axiom? hehe. not many more afternoon games for a while though
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On February 22 2013 22:33 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 22:31 lichter wrote:
You guys know I can only do the afternoon (KR time) sessions, so if ever there are early afternoon only games I can always make the OPs. Except for Sundays. So you should tell me to make it. Or make a schedule where you assign me those OPs. I can do the evening games too, but I will be a little late updating since I will be driving from around 6pm-8pm KR time.
So yeah, I can always do early afternoon games, so assign me those if you need me to do them. http://www.gomtv.net/schedule/index.gomso i guess you can do LG-IM vs. Axiom? hehe. not many more afternoon games for a while though
The LR OPs I've made have all been Code A or GSTL, so I can do those if they fall in the early afternoons. I can also do first game of Proleague.
Yeah I can do GSTL tomorrow if necessary
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
Think the best thing is to try and find a schedule. Much like Seeker and Wozzot do with the interviews now, that needs to be done in the OPs. Like i said, i can fill in if i get a PM to do so, and im sure there are others who do the same.
Needs to become a proper active thread or more PMs between the main people in order for it to be done properly.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On February 22 2013 22:10 graNite wrote:
you take this way too seriously.
LR threads are serious things, normally I joke about this but being an LR thread person myself I know what it means when they are not up on time, or worse not updated.
If anyone wants make an LR thread ask yourself this.
Do I have the time and energy to update this?
If its a no then don't make the LR thread, its pointless, if anything people will think of you as unreliable.
On the other hand operating an LR thread for the first time may seem too much to handle, but there are a lot of people willing to help and anyway the SC2 LR rsources thread is really different from its BW counterpart in the fact that you just need to copy paste the OP from the thread and just update it accordingly.
personal note to the regular LRers, step up your game. stop making bland LR threads, especially the SPL ones, I can't tell them apart.
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Australia54784 Posts
On February 22 2013 22:42 BLinD-RawR wrote:personal note to the regular LRers, step up your game. stop making bland LR threads, especially the SPL ones, I can't tell them apart.
no-one cares enough about SPL to do it, and it's not like shellshock is slacking off lol. if anything, it's GSL that needs more effort done since it's much more popular
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I've been wanting to make some LR OPs for a while now, but at first I felt too shy and unknown to do it, and then I became busy with RL shite, but today I finally finished all the stuff I needed to do for a long while, so in the future I will help make the OPs whenever I see one lacking and I can watch the entire broadcast, which is usually the case. I do almost nothing except watch SC2, heh, especially GS(T)L, so shouldn't be much of a problem to do.
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While I agree with you on this I feel like if you aren't going to do it yourself then don't complain.
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Australia54784 Posts
On February 22 2013 22:48 ReachTheSky wrote:
While I agree with you on this I feel like if you aren't going to do it yourself then don't complain.
you must have missed the part when I did this for a year, and very reliably too
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As a writer I don't always have time to watch GSL vods, so if you do make a LR thread do your best to make sure someone is actually live reporting it, as it makes it a lot easier for me and all the other writers to recap a game when we're short on time.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On February 22 2013 22:44 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 22:42 BLinD-RawR wrote:On February 22 2013 22:10 graNite wrote:
you take this way too seriously. personal note to the regular LRers, step up your game. stop making bland LR threads, especially the SPL ones, I can't tell them apart. no-one cares enough about SPL to do it, and it's not like shellshock is slacking off lol. if anything, it's GSL that needs more effort done since it's much more popular
well I care about SPL thats why I mentioned it, I'd do them myself if I had the time or the tool(s) for it.
GSL is far more spread out now so you can take your time to prepare the LR thread, find a banner guy,make it worth the hype, I'm not saying shellshock isn't doing the job, I'm saying he can do it better.
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I feel that i deserve an anti-achievement for succesfully fucking up an LR so bad every starts talking about it.....
On a serious note, i'm really sorry about today, I promise never to make an LR again unless I learn the required skills for actually making one, and am on a day where I could wake up at 4 Am without consequences.
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Australia54784 Posts
On February 22 2013 22:54 isaachukfan wrote:
I feel that i deserve an anti-achievement for succesfully fucking up an LR so bad every starts talking about it.....
On a serious note, i'm really sorry about today, I promise never to make an LR again unless I learn the required skills for actually making one, and am on a day where I could wake up at 4 Am without consequences.
nono it's ok, you're not the only one, and it was just since i was at home today and free that i felt like writing something haha. props for trying, at least - maybe you can do one well in the future to make up for it :3 i hope it didn't scare you off it, since we need all the OP makers we can get haha. there have been worse, trust me!
On February 22 2013 22:49 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 22:44 opterown wrote:On February 22 2013 22:42 BLinD-RawR wrote:On February 22 2013 22:10 graNite wrote:
you take this way too seriously. personal note to the regular LRers, step up your game. stop making bland LR threads, especially the SPL ones, I can't tell them apart. no-one cares enough about SPL to do it, and it's not like shellshock is slacking off lol. if anything, it's GSL that needs more effort done since it's much more popular well I care about SPL thats why I mentioned it, I'd do them myself if I had the time or the tool(s) for it. GSL is far more spread out now so you can take your time to prepare the LR thread, find a banner guy,make it worth the hype, I'm not saying shellshock isn't doing the job, I'm saying he can do it better.
he's not very good at the photoshop business though. generally for SPL i think it's better for those who are heavily invested in the teams to make the OPs since they will generally spend the time/effort to hype/spazz it up?
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On February 22 2013 22:37 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 22:33 opterown wrote:On February 22 2013 22:31 lichter wrote:
You guys know I can only do the afternoon (KR time) sessions, so if ever there are early afternoon only games I can always make the OPs. Except for Sundays. So you should tell me to make it. Or make a schedule where you assign me those OPs. I can do the evening games too, but I will be a little late updating since I will be driving from around 6pm-8pm KR time.
So yeah, I can always do early afternoon games, so assign me those if you need me to do them. http://www.gomtv.net/schedule/index.gomso i guess you can do LG-IM vs. Axiom? hehe. not many more afternoon games for a while though The LR OPs I've made have all been Code A or GSTL, so I can do those if they fall in the early afternoons. I can also do first game of Proleague. Yeah I can do GSTL tomorrow if necessary
If you do the GSTL, here's a good resolution/quality picture of Axiom-Acer logo.
http://img.gomtv.net/imgdata/76696.jpg
Liquipedia has a poorly resized one for some reason.
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Now I feel bad for not updating the VODS on my only LR thread T_T.
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I'm too afraid of messing up / not having the tools / not having time to ever make an LR thread.
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Bisutopia19239 Posts
As an Old LR thread maker myself I will tell an anecdote.
In 2011 I was the OP for a LR thread during the Proleague Playoffs. SKT versus some1 they destroyed. It was 4 in the morning and the power had gone out after the first match. I suddenly had NO internet or computer to work on. I did the updates, the polls, everything from my smart phone for the next 2.5 hours. The whole time I just refreshed comments from the LR while not being able to watch a single game live and based my results from there!
In short: If I can LR from my smart phone at 4am for 2.5 hours then nobody has an excuse!
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On February 22 2013 22:57 Kasaraki wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 22:37 lichter wrote:On February 22 2013 22:33 opterown wrote:On February 22 2013 22:31 lichter wrote:
You guys know I can only do the afternoon (KR time) sessions, so if ever there are early afternoon only games I can always make the OPs. Except for Sundays. So you should tell me to make it. Or make a schedule where you assign me those OPs. I can do the evening games too, but I will be a little late updating since I will be driving from around 6pm-8pm KR time.
So yeah, I can always do early afternoon games, so assign me those if you need me to do them. http://www.gomtv.net/schedule/index.gomso i guess you can do LG-IM vs. Axiom? hehe. not many more afternoon games for a while though The LR OPs I've made have all been Code A or GSTL, so I can do those if they fall in the early afternoons. I can also do first game of Proleague. Yeah I can do GSTL tomorrow if necessary If you do the GSTL, here's a good resolution/quality picture of Axiom-Acer logo. http://img.gomtv.net/imgdata/76696.jpgLiquipedia has a poorly resized one for some reason.
Wow that is an ugly logo >.>
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On February 22 2013 23:16 BisuDagger wrote:
As an Old LR thread maker myself I will tell an anecdote.
In 2011 I was the OP for a LR thread during the Proleague Playoffs. SKT versus some1 they destroyed. It was 4 in the morning and the power had gone out after the first match. I suddenly had NO internet or computer to work on. I did the updates, the polls, everything from my smart phone for the next 2.5 hours. The whole time I just refreshed comments from the LR while not being able to watch a single game live and based my results from there!
In short: If I can LR from my smart phone at 4am for 2.5 hours then nobody has an excuse!
you mean winner's league playoffs right?
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Bisutopia19239 Posts
On February 22 2013 23:25 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 23:16 BisuDagger wrote:
As an Old LR thread maker myself I will tell an anecdote.
In 2011 I was the OP for a LR thread during the Proleague Playoffs. SKT versus some1 they destroyed. It was 4 in the morning and the power had gone out after the first match. I suddenly had NO internet or computer to work on. I did the updates, the polls, everything from my smart phone for the next 2.5 hours. The whole time I just refreshed comments from the LR while not being able to watch a single game live and based my results from there!
In short: If I can LR from my smart phone at 4am for 2.5 hours then nobody has an excuse! you mean winner's league playoffs right?
Probably. It certainly wasn't the finals where KT got a few too many luck wins T_T.
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On February 22 2013 22:49 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 22:48 ReachTheSky wrote:
While I agree with you on this I feel like if you aren't going to do it yourself then don't complain. you must have missed the part when I did this for a year, and very reliably too
That's great that you did it for a year, I and the rest of the community do appreciate this but my point still stands.
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i generally check liquipedia first because the LR threads have been subpar lately, limiting the ability to make LR threads to a certain set of people sounds silly, but if it made for better LR threads I'd be for it.
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It may not seem like much, but Opertown is right. When I wake up, I like to go to the LR thread, open the spoiler free results, and open 1 game at a time, to sort of build up the suspense. Maybe kind of silly, but I like doing this. Then this morning, I look at Soulkey vs Taeja - satisfying. Look at MC vs RorO.. none of the results are updated? Really? The games must have ended 2+ hours ago, and even then it should be updated live (by today's standard). I went to the wiki to see who won, so it's not the end of the world or anything..
But yeah.. recommendation polls are also nice, which were for the most part absent last night.
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United States8476 Posts
On February 22 2013 23:38 ReachTheSky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 22:49 opterown wrote:On February 22 2013 22:48 ReachTheSky wrote:
While I agree with you on this I feel like if you aren't going to do it yourself then don't complain. you must have missed the part when I did this for a year, and very reliably too That's great that you did it for a year, I and the rest of the community do appreciate this but my point still stands.
There's no reason whatsoever that he can't still bring attention to the problem. As a notable LRer, opterown's voice brings a lot of weight to the issue.
As for Recommended Games, those are actually very important and you'll see why soon. I've spoken to LRers about this issue and I hope we see Recommended Games polls employed even more in the future.
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On February 22 2013 23:18 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 22:57 Kasaraki wrote:On February 22 2013 22:37 lichter wrote:On February 22 2013 22:33 opterown wrote:On February 22 2013 22:31 lichter wrote:
You guys know I can only do the afternoon (KR time) sessions, so if ever there are early afternoon only games I can always make the OPs. Except for Sundays. So you should tell me to make it. Or make a schedule where you assign me those OPs. I can do the evening games too, but I will be a little late updating since I will be driving from around 6pm-8pm KR time.
So yeah, I can always do early afternoon games, so assign me those if you need me to do them. http://www.gomtv.net/schedule/index.gomso i guess you can do LG-IM vs. Axiom? hehe. not many more afternoon games for a while though The LR OPs I've made have all been Code A or GSTL, so I can do those if they fall in the early afternoons. I can also do first game of Proleague. Yeah I can do GSTL tomorrow if necessary If you do the GSTL, here's a good resolution/quality picture of Axiom-Acer logo. http://img.gomtv.net/imgdata/76696.jpgLiquipedia has a poorly resized one for some reason. Wow that is an ugly logo >.>
Haha, yeah, it's not exactly an elegant way to splice two logos together. >-<
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We need to get R1CH to cast a spell that allows us to imbed a widget from liquipedia into a LR thread. That way the liquipedia can be updated with results and those results will show up in the LR thread. This would allow other uses to update an existing thread without being the OP.
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United States97276 Posts
On February 22 2013 22:56 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 22:49 BLinD-RawR wrote:On February 22 2013 22:44 opterown wrote:On February 22 2013 22:42 BLinD-RawR wrote:On February 22 2013 22:10 graNite wrote:
you take this way too seriously. personal note to the regular LRers, step up your game. stop making bland LR threads, especially the SPL ones, I can't tell them apart. no-one cares enough about SPL to do it, and it's not like shellshock is slacking off lol. if anything, it's GSL that needs more effort done since it's much more popular well I care about SPL thats why I mentioned it, I'd do them myself if I had the time or the tool(s) for it. GSL is far more spread out now so you can take your time to prepare the LR thread, find a banner guy,make it worth the hype, I'm not saying shellshock isn't doing the job, I'm saying he can do it better. he's not very good at the photoshop business though. generally for SPL i think it's better for those who are heavily invested in the teams to make the OPs since they will generally spend the time/effort to hype/spazz it up?
That's putting it nicely. I already told you I'm fucking awful haha. I'm all for making the threads look better. I just need help because I suck at banners and stuff. Also I need someone to do Wednesdays all the time because I have a 8 AM lab class so I can never do them. I'm also taking kind of a heavy course load this semester so I don't like to do them on days when I have tests or big projects. To me the whole point of the SC2 LR resources thread is if anyone wants to post it, go ahead. :D Thanks everyone who helps out!
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On February 23 2013 02:55 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 22:56 opterown wrote:On February 22 2013 22:49 BLinD-RawR wrote:On February 22 2013 22:44 opterown wrote:On February 22 2013 22:42 BLinD-RawR wrote:On February 22 2013 22:10 graNite wrote:
you take this way too seriously. personal note to the regular LRers, step up your game. stop making bland LR threads, especially the SPL ones, I can't tell them apart. no-one cares enough about SPL to do it, and it's not like shellshock is slacking off lol. if anything, it's GSL that needs more effort done since it's much more popular well I care about SPL thats why I mentioned it, I'd do them myself if I had the time or the tool(s) for it. GSL is far more spread out now so you can take your time to prepare the LR thread, find a banner guy,make it worth the hype, I'm not saying shellshock isn't doing the job, I'm saying he can do it better. he's not very good at the photoshop business though. generally for SPL i think it's better for those who are heavily invested in the teams to make the OPs since they will generally spend the time/effort to hype/spazz it up? That's putting it nicely. I already told you I'm fucking awful haha. I'm all for making the threads look better. I just need help because I suck at banners and stuff. Also I need someone to do Wednesdays all the time because I have a 8 AM lab class so I can never do them. I'm also taking kind of a heavy course load this semester so I don't like to do them on days when I have tests or big projects. To me the whole point of the SC2 LR resources thread is if anyone wants to post it, go ahead. :D Thanks everyone who helps out!
Well one of the things that made the BW PL threads so good was MS PAINT DRAWINGS!!!!!!
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On February 23 2013 02:56 kollin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 02:55 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 22 2013 22:56 opterown wrote:On February 22 2013 22:49 BLinD-RawR wrote:On February 22 2013 22:44 opterown wrote:On February 22 2013 22:42 BLinD-RawR wrote:On February 22 2013 22:10 graNite wrote:
you take this way too seriously. personal note to the regular LRers, step up your game. stop making bland LR threads, especially the SPL ones, I can't tell them apart. no-one cares enough about SPL to do it, and it's not like shellshock is slacking off lol. if anything, it's GSL that needs more effort done since it's much more popular well I care about SPL thats why I mentioned it, I'd do them myself if I had the time or the tool(s) for it. GSL is far more spread out now so you can take your time to prepare the LR thread, find a banner guy,make it worth the hype, I'm not saying shellshock isn't doing the job, I'm saying he can do it better. he's not very good at the photoshop business though. generally for SPL i think it's better for those who are heavily invested in the teams to make the OPs since they will generally spend the time/effort to hype/spazz it up? That's putting it nicely. I already told you I'm fucking awful haha. I'm all for making the threads look better. I just need help because I suck at banners and stuff. Also I need someone to do Wednesdays all the time because I have a 8 AM lab class so I can never do them. I'm also taking kind of a heavy course load this semester so I don't like to do them on days when I have tests or big projects. To me the whole point of the SC2 LR resources thread is if anyone wants to post it, go ahead. :D Thanks everyone who helps out! Well one of the things that made the BW PL threads so good was MS PAINT DRAWINGS!!!!!!
I can do MS Paint drawings but I thought it was BLinD-RawR's specialty and I didn't want to infringe on his area of awesomeness
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Have TL considered adding a vote feature to the comment system? I know this is not FB but it should increase interaction between fans and it's also good for lurkers.
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I want to help sometimes. I don't have any problems creating OPs and keeping them updated with the result and making polls, but I don't know if I'm capable of making a good Live Report 'cause english is not my first language and sometimes I make funny/stupid mistakes with it.
Other than that, I can step up sometimes.
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On February 23 2013 04:29 BulletCL wrote:
I want to help sometimes. I don't have any problems creating OPs and keeping them updated with the result and making polls, but I don't know if I'm capable of making a good Live Report 'cause english is not my first language and sometimes I make funny/stupid mistakes with it.
Other than that, I can step up sometimes.
i find managing the OP and polls is already enough work to be live reporting a game on top of it, haha, but i'm sure noone will begrudge you if you try! :D
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I would be making them but I'm not currently staying up late for GSL, I just read the results the next day and watch the highly recommended vods. That and I've kind of become lazy at it since I've been helping out for so long.
More volunteers would be great, by the way the MC vs Roro results from last night aren't updated in the current thread
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I'm glad someone finally pointed this out (I would've but seeing as I never do it myself, it would seem a little back-handed).
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I think part of it could be the LR Resources thread. Somebody just comes along and copy/pastes the LR thread someone else built and then moves on and forgets about it. Probably less likely to happen if you had to put in the time and build the thread yourself
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actually since GSTL is at 9 pm for me tonight I'll make it right now
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On February 23 2013 05:31 Bibbit wrote:
I think part of it could be the LR Resources thread. Somebody just comes along and copy/pastes the LR thread someone else built and then moves on and forgets about it. Probably less likely to happen if you had to put in the time and build the thread yourself
but if the LR Resources thread wasn't there, then the LR would be much harder to make from scratch, so even fewer would make it
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On February 23 2013 05:35 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 05:31 Bibbit wrote:
I think part of it could be the LR Resources thread. Somebody just comes along and copy/pastes the LR thread someone else built and then moves on and forgets about it. Probably less likely to happen if you had to put in the time and build the thread yourself but if the LR Resources thread wasn't there, then the LR would be much harder to make from scratch, so even fewer would make it
Yeah good point, I forgot about the second problem >_>
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You fail to consider that the GSL specifically is on at a disgustingly bad time for a lot of people. I feel like a lot of people can't LR just because they either miss the start of end of the event. I would love to do a few LR threads for example, but can't because I have uni, and can't afford to stay up late just to update the thread... I normally only watch the first half live then the second half the following day via VODs.
In fact, the only major events, including MLGs/IPLs/IEMs even, which I am awake for the entirety of the LR's duration, is SPL, and GSTL on the weekends. No other events fit my timezone/sleep-schedule. Both of those are also the most timely LR'd, because:
The issue is timezones, not workload.
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Is there a liquipedia page for the axiom/acer partnership?
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On February 23 2013 05:25 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 04:29 BulletCL wrote:
I want to help sometimes. I don't have any problems creating OPs and keeping them updated with the result and making polls, but I don't know if I'm capable of making a good Live Report 'cause english is not my first language and sometimes I make funny/stupid mistakes with it.
Other than that, I can step up sometimes. i find managing the OP and polls is already enough work to be live reporting a game on top of it, haha, but i'm sure noone will begrudge you if you try! :D
Ok. Since Dodgin is making the OP for GSTL, I will make one for SamsungKHAN vs Team 8 and see how it goes.
On February 23 2013 05:47 Dodgin wrote:
Is there a liquipedia page for the axiom/acer partnership?
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Axiom-Acer
There you go.
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On February 23 2013 05:47 Dodgin wrote:
Is there a liquipedia page for the axiom/acer partnership?
I sent you the logo opterown made for me in a PM. Here it is again in case you didnt see it
+ Show Spoiler +
oh wait you're looking for the page to link to duh /facepalm
On February 23 2013 05:47 BulletCL wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 05:25 opterown wrote:On February 23 2013 04:29 BulletCL wrote:
I want to help sometimes. I don't have any problems creating OPs and keeping them updated with the result and making polls, but I don't know if I'm capable of making a good Live Report 'cause english is not my first language and sometimes I make funny/stupid mistakes with it.
Other than that, I can step up sometimes. i find managing the OP and polls is already enough work to be live reporting a game on top of it, haha, but i'm sure noone will begrudge you if you try! :D Ok. Since Dodgin is making the OP for GSTL, I will make one for SamsungKHAN vs Team 8 and see how it goes.
Nooboon already made all 4 SPL OPs for this week
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I need the liquipedia article for the hotlink from the image
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Also a very minor issue, but it'd be nice if TLPD links didn't need to be babysat hardcore. They're probably the most time consuming part (aside from polls) of upkeeping LR threads >_>
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On February 23 2013 05:53 MCXD wrote:
Also a very minor issue, but it'd be nice if TLPD links didn't need to be babysat hardcore. They're probably the most time consuming part (aside from polls) of upkeeping LR threads >_>
What TLPD issues are you talking about? We just fixed all the KeSPa players' TLPD info last week.
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On February 23 2013 05:56 monk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 05:53 MCXD wrote:
Also a very minor issue, but it'd be nice if TLPD links didn't need to be babysat hardcore. They're probably the most time consuming part (aside from polls) of upkeeping LR threads >_> What TLPD issues are you talking about? We just fixed all the KeSPa players' TLPD info last week.
You did? Well nevermind then. My complaints are outdated
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On February 23 2013 05:47 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Nooboon already made all 4 SPL OPs for this week
Great! So, should i make a thread or he's (or someone else) gonna do it?
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On February 23 2013 05:48 Dodgin wrote:
I need the liquipedia article for the hotlink from the image
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Axiom-Acer
On February 23 2013 05:56 monk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 05:53 MCXD wrote:
Also a very minor issue, but it'd be nice if TLPD links didn't need to be babysat hardcore. They're probably the most time consuming part (aside from polls) of upkeeping LR threads >_> What TLPD issues are you talking about? We just fixed all the KeSPa players' TLPD info last week.
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On February 23 2013 06:00 BulletCL wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 05:47 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Nooboon already made all 4 SPL OPs for this week Great! So, should i make a thread or he's (or someone else) gonna do it?
you can make it if you want :D
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=399896
get hyped bitches, debut of axiom-acer.
On February 23 2013 05:56 monk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 05:53 MCXD wrote:
Also a very minor issue, but it'd be nice if TLPD links didn't need to be babysat hardcore. They're probably the most time consuming part (aside from polls) of upkeeping LR threads >_> What TLPD issues are you talking about? We just fixed all the KeSPa players' TLPD info last week.
I had a problem with Ragnarok where I had to manually enter the code because it came out as a map when i right clicked on the TLPD icon and clicked sc2 korea.
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On February 23 2013 06:03 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 05:56 monk wrote:On February 23 2013 05:53 MCXD wrote:
Also a very minor issue, but it'd be nice if TLPD links didn't need to be babysat hardcore. They're probably the most time consuming part (aside from polls) of upkeeping LR threads >_> What TLPD issues are you talking about? We just fixed all the KeSPa players' TLPD info last week. MaruFirstcome to mind
yeah I guess I forget about those after making a bunch of OPs. I've reached the point where I can remember the akas and the text you have to put in to get the right tlpd like Sangho, anyppi, maruprime, classicprime, free[gm], light[alive], neo.g_soulkey (although I think this one got changed to work with just "soulkey")
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This is slightly off topic, but is there a way to make tables or columns on TL? It would help in prettifying the LR threads :3
I swear there was this super in-depth bbcode guide somewhere, but I can't seem to find it. Perhaps it was a blog post?
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To people afraid they can't do it: it's actually the easiest thing ever ( just go to LR resources thread and copy the premade one.)
If you've messed up in the past (I have) don't be afraid to try again. Just ask for help.
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On February 23 2013 06:06 MCXD wrote:
This is slightly off topic, but is there a way to make tables or columns on TL? It would help in prettifying the LR threads :3
I swear there was this super in-depth bbcode guide somewhere, but I can't seem to find it. Perhaps it was a blog post?
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=336805
it is a blog by wo1fwood if this is what you're looking for
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On February 23 2013 06:07 TommyP wrote:
To people afraid they can't do it: it's actually the easiest thing ever ( just go to LR resources thread and copy the premade one.)
If you've messed up in the past (I have) don't be afraid to try again. Just ask for help.
Yea I made a few for hybrid proleague without even realizing LR resources thread existed. Was easier than I expected!
So if you know you're gonna be around for a whole match of whatever, make the thread!
edit: wasn't meant to be a jab at active LR thread makers if it came off like that. Super consistently making a billion LR threads would be mad hard but not everyone needs to be a superhero :D
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What is the minimum standard of quality for actually doing this? I watch most SPL and a lot of Code A/S but don't play the game at all. I certainly don't have the knowledge required to do a live report or game summary. However if I knew I was going to be awake for an entire event I think I could at least bold the winner names in the results sections of the premade OPs. I can't imagine that that would be enough to justify making the thread though - would you actually prefer that over no thread?
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On February 23 2013 06:14 Runnin wrote:
What is the minimum standard of quality for actually doing this? I watch most SPL and a lot of Code A/S but don't play the game at all. I certainly don't have the knowledge required to do a live report or game summary. However if I knew I was going to be awake for an entire event I think I could at least bold the winner names in the results sections of the premade OPs. I can't imagine that that would be enough to justify making the thread though - would you actually prefer that over no thread?
that would be preferable over no thread, most of the people who make LR ops don't actually live report the games themselves. They post the recommended games polls after the games end and update the results.
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On February 23 2013 06:14 Runnin wrote:
What is the minimum standard of quality for actually doing this? I watch most SPL and a lot of Code A/S but don't play the game at all. I certainly don't have the knowledge required to do a live report or game summary. However if I knew I was going to be awake for an entire event I think I could at least bold the winner names in the results sections of the premade OPs. I can't imagine that that would be enough to justify making the thread though - would you actually prefer that over no thread?
You need to update results (bold names), ideally you should have prediction polls in the second post and make and post recommended game polls, add live reports if someone does any, etc. I don't know what else but I can't do any because I'm usually not able to catch all the games or can't post when I watch.
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I want to express my gratitude towards our LR-heroes!
Unfortunately, I almost never have time to catch a live broadcast during the week, but when I can catch a glimpse, I really appreciate it.
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On February 23 2013 02:55 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 22:56 opterown wrote:On February 22 2013 22:49 BLinD-RawR wrote:On February 22 2013 22:44 opterown wrote:On February 22 2013 22:42 BLinD-RawR wrote:On February 22 2013 22:10 graNite wrote:
you take this way too seriously. personal note to the regular LRers, step up your game. stop making bland LR threads, especially the SPL ones, I can't tell them apart. no-one cares enough about SPL to do it, and it's not like shellshock is slacking off lol. if anything, it's GSL that needs more effort done since it's much more popular well I care about SPL thats why I mentioned it, I'd do them myself if I had the time or the tool(s) for it. GSL is far more spread out now so you can take your time to prepare the LR thread, find a banner guy,make it worth the hype, I'm not saying shellshock isn't doing the job, I'm saying he can do it better. he's not very good at the photoshop business though. generally for SPL i think it's better for those who are heavily invested in the teams to make the OPs since they will generally spend the time/effort to hype/spazz it up? That's putting it nicely. I already told you I'm fucking awful haha. I'm all for making the threads look better. I just need help because I suck at banners and stuff. Also I need someone to do Wednesdays all the time because I have a 8 AM lab class so I can never do them. I'm also taking kind of a heavy course load this semester so I don't like to do them on days when I have tests or big projects. To me the whole point of the SC2 LR resources thread is if anyone wants to post it, go ahead. :D Thanks everyone who helps out!
The BW LR threads had a lot of unique banners and even hype posts. The most memorable ones were the MS Paint stick figures towards the end. It just showed that the community cared even after the artistic talent was gone. It was also really hilarious.
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Bolding names (updating results) and recommendation polls are the 2 most important things
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If you guys are having TLPD issues, can you guys make a list of the ones that aren't working properly and I'll try to get that fixed? We spent a few hours last week fixing KeSPa stuff. Everything except free and Best should be working properly for Kespa players and we couldn't fix those because those words are hard coded into the system.
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I would love to do some more LR OPs but I'm in the middle of my exams. I got more time next week though, so I'll probably do some of the OPs if nobody else does them ^.^
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As a writer, LR threads are great; both because of the easy access of results and actual live reporting. When recapping 10+ games, it helps a lot. Anyone who does LR threads regularly is a real community hero and deserves a lot of credit but gets little.
Thanks, guys <3
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So I went ahead and put up a temp op for the semifinals in the sc2 lr resources thread. Turns out the Semifinals are bo7 this season. I suck at doing stuff with banners and pictures like stated earlier in the thread. If you guys have any good pictures or stuff for the GSL Semifinalists that you would like to see in the OP to help with the hype just pm me or something. It would also help if it was sized correctly and everything before you send it because I suck at this. Thanks!
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Maru and First are not an issue.
Just TLPD MaruPrime and then remove the prime part.
TLPD anyppi or imfirst and just change to First.
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On February 23 2013 07:26 Seeker wrote:
Maru and First are not an issue.
Just TLPD MaruPrime and then remove the prime part.
TLPD anyppi or imfirst and just change to First.
you could say the thing about tons of other names though.
you used to have to type soo_skt to get the right soo but they changed that
you used to have to type neo.g_soulkey to get the right soulkey but they changed that
TSLCenter to get the right Center, etc
why not update it so it links to the player that is still active?
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On February 23 2013 07:26 Seeker wrote:
Maru and First are not an issue.
Just TLPD MaruPrime and then remove the prime part.
TLPD anyppi or imfirst and just change to First.
how is that not an issue
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this used to be a bannable offense in the bw forum
did TL stop banning people?
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On February 23 2013 02:57 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 02:56 kollin wrote:On February 23 2013 02:55 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 22 2013 22:56 opterown wrote:On February 22 2013 22:49 BLinD-RawR wrote:On February 22 2013 22:44 opterown wrote:On February 22 2013 22:42 BLinD-RawR wrote:On February 22 2013 22:10 graNite wrote:
you take this way too seriously. personal note to the regular LRers, step up your game. stop making bland LR threads, especially the SPL ones, I can't tell them apart. no-one cares enough about SPL to do it, and it's not like shellshock is slacking off lol. if anything, it's GSL that needs more effort done since it's much more popular well I care about SPL thats why I mentioned it, I'd do them myself if I had the time or the tool(s) for it. GSL is far more spread out now so you can take your time to prepare the LR thread, find a banner guy,make it worth the hype, I'm not saying shellshock isn't doing the job, I'm saying he can do it better. he's not very good at the photoshop business though. generally for SPL i think it's better for those who are heavily invested in the teams to make the OPs since they will generally spend the time/effort to hype/spazz it up? That's putting it nicely. I already told you I'm fucking awful haha. I'm all for making the threads look better. I just need help because I suck at banners and stuff. Also I need someone to do Wednesdays all the time because I have a 8 AM lab class so I can never do them. I'm also taking kind of a heavy course load this semester so I don't like to do them on days when I have tests or big projects. To me the whole point of the SC2 LR resources thread is if anyone wants to post it, go ahead. :D Thanks everyone who helps out! Well one of the things that made the BW PL threads so good was MS PAINT DRAWINGS!!!!!! I can do MS Paint drawings but I thought it was BLinD-RawR's specialty and I didn't want to infringe on his area of awesomeness
not my specialty and by all means do it.
because at this point I'm starting prefer BisuDagger's LR threads...yeah its getting to that level.
we lost Amnesia over this...T_T Amnesia.
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Amen! Been sad when there aren't threads or update LR OPs. I'm considering helping out, problem is I never actually watch all the games. I'd be glad to help though, from time to time. Thanks for trying tackling this issue though~~
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On February 23 2013 06:45 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 06:33 monk wrote:
If you guys are having TLPD issues, can you guys make a list of the ones that aren't working properly and I'll try to get that fixed? We spent a few hours last week fixing KeSPa stuff. Everything except free and Best should be working properly for Kespa players and we couldn't fix those because those words are hard coded into the system. besides those two that you said you cant fix, the only problems I still have are the ones with repeat names although I guess you changed Center, soO, and Soulkey to the active player. I don't see a way around Classic vs ClassicPrime since they both still play. Maru links to a zerg player from a while back. Shine and Shine is another clash of active names but I just use Shinefou to TLPDize for the MVP player. Killer defaults to the Chilean zerg even when I select SC2 Korean. I had no other problems when I just made the ro24 OPs so it looks like you guys got most of them :D. The other one I mentioned earlier was for Light. It defaults to the team LighT even when I select sc2 korean. Another similar instance is for the team MVP vs IMMvp repeat names of active players: Shine vs ShinefOu Classic vs  ClassicPrime
Light and MVP aren't fixable. Not sure if Killer vs Sangho is fixable. Maru and First are definitely fixable. I'll see what I can do.
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On February 22 2013 22:10 graNite wrote:
you take this way too seriously.
Beware, or opter will start a PM flamewar!
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K all the TLPD stuff should be fixed thanks to GMarshal. Tell me if any of them are still incorrect.
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On February 23 2013 19:43 bluQ wrote:Beware, or opter will start a PM flamewar!
no, you did
Original Message From bluQ:
... Stil doesn't Know how a discussion and arguments are defined and structured. Ma.kes it pretty.obvious which threada are Your favorites.
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Does anyone want to make a banner for the Season 2 Up and Down matches or the GSL Finals?
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