I'm not "losing my shit" at all and you're adding absolutely nothing to the discussion. Both you (Assirra) and Anta wrote pretty lame lines directly attacking my comments as if I'm being unreasonable, yet offer nothing but those simple troll-level one-two liners.
I'm not going to any extreme and his post was a lot more rude than "just helpful advice that it might be beneficial for him to get tanned" or something like that. You're conveniently ignoring tone and VManOfMana, you cannot be certain there was no intention of attacking, look at his tone. I'm pretty sure he was not intending to be nice and helpful and you claim to
know (i.e. you assume) that he was not meaning any harm.
He might not be genuinely "racist" in general, but those sorts of comments are just judgemental.
It's not always simple "helpful advice about health" and if it is, as far as I know, it's a bit naïve, because different skin types have different benefits anyway.
Lighter skin absorbs more nutrients (or w/e; vitamin D, anyway), so claiming it is for "their benefit", "to be helpful" or anything like that is just an excuse to pass physical judgement. If it is supposed to be to help people, they're not doing a very good job and I don't know if any of you have actually learned this in your lives yet, but when people are supposedly receiving help or advice, they don't expect very rude wording.
You know all those bad customer service stories you hear about from time to time? You know how you don't like people giving advice to not seem to have a clue what they are talking about? Said hypothetical more tanned person making the criticism/"helpful comment" failed on both fronts.
Do you think the person listening is grateful? No, the loud-mouth rude person who doesn't think first should have shut his trap.
It's the same kind of thing as ginger-haired people and things like that. Maybe we don't normally consider them racist, but people can have to put through a seriously ridiculous amount of crap from morons making little passing comments (or a lot more) because they know they can get away with it and because making stupid comments is a pastime of those sorts of people.
All I'm doing is making a point as a stand against one stupid, pretty rude sounding comment, for a change (I don't think I approach the topic often) and multiple people who are that determined to be trollish or not read properly are raising an issue with it.
I don't think anyone reasonable will make a point of strongly disagreeing with me, because even if they feel the first comment was meant in a harmless fashion, I'm defending a point, not going batshit crazy as simple 1-2 liner trolls* would like to claim. People who disagree and are reasonable don't use Assirra's wording, they mostly (should
) just go
"Pfft, I think he's wrong but I suppose he's going to stick with making his point about judgemental (or even xenophobic sorts of hateful) behaviour and people getting away with it if its not a more common form (like what is considered racism)."
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+ Show Spoiler +not you VManOfMana, but I'm not taking an extreme!
It wasn't meant to be a topic-derailer and it was more about very judgemental crap people get away with, whether you want to class it as racism or not.
Racism comes only after you give it too much importance.
Note how other people treat it like suddenly it is so much more of a big deal when someone says "racism", when it could be very judgemental regardless of whether it relates to race or not.
I'm not the one being so stirred up by the word! *Sigh*
On topic, I do feel it's a shame that Stephano doesn't like the Proleague format, partly because I highly doubt KeSPA will change it. I personally much prefer the format too as I don't like people always choosing the same maps that favour their race against the other or favour particular playstyles. I think it might get stale more quickly the GSTL way.
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On February 04 2013 03:33 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
This is especially funny given Stephano is of North African descent...
Well yeah, but that doesn't inherently determine colour and I don't think people attacking skin colour (just talking objectively here) care where the person's from so much as the fact that the skin colour isn't to their liking.
People attacking race are usually judging somewhat based on looks anyway, but it's probably more xenophobia about the area or culture.
Like I say, I'm really talking more about judgemental behaviour that isn't classed as racism being more easily excused. :|
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