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Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
January 14 2013 22:45 GMT
#41
On January 15 2013 07:38 usethis2 wrote:
Unfortunate reality where money > everything and you can't blame individuals for their choices.. But you can blame the establishment that has the firm grip on money. Only way to stop this exodus is for existing eSF teams to gain strong sponsorships that are more or less equal to Kespa teams in funding.


For now, eSF is safe for their contracted players. There is currently a ban on eSF teams sending their players to KeSPA teams while they are still under contract. The only way it is possible to switch over is to let your contract expire, which is difficult to do seeing as it's taking a risk, and a very large one; you have to be good enough to guarantee yourself a spot on another team, which is hard to do. Unless you enter negotiations before your contract expires (shady, to say the least, against the rules maybe), it's a big risk to let your contract end. The main problem for eSF right now is losing their best to the KeSPA teams.
Zealots, not zee-lots. | Never forget, KTViolet, Go)Space. | You will never be as good as By.Flash, and your drops will never be as sick as MMA.
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
January 14 2013 22:47 GMT
#42
RedBull is a large company too, but they aint given any money to startale or not much T.T ...

redbull plz give ST more money!!!
yo
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
January 14 2013 22:49 GMT
#43
Squirtle wont join KT. KT wants some top form players !
rly ?
MrSexington
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1768 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 22:50:14
January 14 2013 22:49 GMT
#44
Sidenote:

Has there ever been a former Kespa player that has joined a GOM team? Or is the talent just moving in one direction?
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 22:52:04
January 14 2013 22:51 GMT
#45
On January 15 2013 07:49 MrSexington wrote:
Sidenote:

Has there ever been a former Kespa player that has joined a GOM team? Or is the talent just moving in one direction?


Tons of player before Kespa switched over fully to SC2, none afterwards.

Or well, Jaedong to EG if that counts. But EG isn't an Esf team.
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37058 Posts
January 14 2013 22:53 GMT
#46
On January 15 2013 06:51 Nuclease wrote:
So, we have all seen the recent Facebook post, or heard of it through our beautiful Seeker, but apparently there is more. Quoting from an article by D-eSports.com:

So now I'm beautiful? *blushes*
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
January 14 2013 22:53 GMT
#47
On January 15 2013 07:49 MrSexington wrote:
Sidenote:

Has there ever been a former Kespa player that has joined a GOM team? Or is the talent just moving in one direction?


I'm a little confused. The answer to your question depends largely on semantics. If you count MC, Mvp, Squirtle himself, and many many of the other long-time Korean players, then yes, there have been many KeSPA players who joined a GOM team. At the start of SC2, when KeSPA wasn't interested, many of these players went straight from their KeSPA teams to their GOM teams. HyuN, for example, did that even after the very start of SC2 I believe (could be wrong).
Zealots, not zee-lots. | Never forget, KTViolet, Go)Space. | You will never be as good as By.Flash, and your drops will never be as sick as MMA.
Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
January 14 2013 22:55 GMT
#48
On January 15 2013 07:53 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 06:51 Nuclease wrote:
So, we have all seen the recent Facebook post, or heard of it through our beautiful Seeker, but apparently there is more. Quoting from an article by D-eSports.com:

So now I'm beautiful? *blushes*




Your translating certainly is you majestic linguist, you.

Zealots, not zee-lots. | Never forget, KTViolet, Go)Space. | You will never be as good as By.Flash, and your drops will never be as sick as MMA.
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
January 14 2013 22:55 GMT
#49
On January 15 2013 07:49 MrSexington wrote:
Sidenote:

Has there ever been a former Kespa player that has joined a GOM team? Or is the talent just moving in one direction?


Before the kespa teams transitioned, there is obviously all the players like MC, Mvp, etc, more recently but not so much Byul, First and Hyun

Can't think of any kespa players joining an ESF team after the transition though, just players like Sea, Stardust or Jaedong going to foreigner teams

Nothing to do with that but Firebathero joined gom as a GSTL caster
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
January 14 2013 22:59 GMT
#50
On January 15 2013 07:53 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 06:51 Nuclease wrote:
So, we have all seen the recent Facebook post, or heard of it through our beautiful Seeker, but apparently there is more. Quoting from an article by D-eSports.com:

So now I'm beautiful? *blushes*


mhm, /kiss
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DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
January 14 2013 23:01 GMT
#51
On January 15 2013 06:52 Mistletoes wrote:
SK Telecom T1. Squirtle, Parting, Rain, Bisu, Best, and Afrotoss will be the new Six Dragons in SC2.


Jangbi is not happy with you.
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derpface
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden925 Posts
January 14 2013 23:02 GMT
#52
On January 15 2013 08:01 DwD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 06:52 Mistletoes wrote:
SK Telecom T1. Squirtle, Parting, Rain, Bisu, Best, and Afrotoss will be the new Six Dragons in SC2.


Jangbi is not happy with you.


Neither is Free or Stork I guess
gg no re #_< no1 Hydra and Leta fan >_#
Sejanus
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Lithuania550 Posts
January 14 2013 23:07 GMT
#53
With Squirtle to invent builds for him, Bisu would surely take at least a few GSLs.

Please stop making fun out of Bisu, he didn't deserve it...
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catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3830 Posts
January 14 2013 23:11 GMT
#54
why parting why.
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
January 14 2013 23:19 GMT
#55
This looks bad for the GOM teams, all their top talent is deserting either to foreign teams or kespa teams. If GOM can't pay competitive wages, they're going to fold up shop and die. Looks like kespa wins in the end. So sad. Truly the end of an era.
nmetasch
Profile Joined April 2012
United States600 Posts
January 14 2013 23:21 GMT
#56
Oh my the world is imploding and starcraft is dying! Run! (-_-)
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
January 14 2013 23:23 GMT
#57
If KT wants him, they will probably get him. Not sure who else would put a bid in... maybe woongjin?
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fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
January 14 2013 23:24 GMT
#58
On January 15 2013 08:21 nmetasch wrote:
Oh my the world is imploding and starcraft is dying! Run! (-_-)


starcraft isn't dying, its just the teams with bad business models that can't sustain themselves are. the ESF is going to fold. that is all. the market itself is oversaturated, which indicates that sc2 has probably reached the apex of its popularity a while ago (2011) and is now on the decline. it will likely be a marginal game in the next few years that will bring in enough cash to support a handful of teams. since its core fan base tend to have more money than say LOL viewers, it should still sustain itself for a while.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
January 14 2013 23:25 GMT
#59
PartinG showed his income to Squirtle? :D
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
January 14 2013 23:32 GMT
#60
i wonder if this is the start of more esf players joining kespa
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