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bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
January 11 2013 01:58 GMT
#101
fnatic is one of the largest eSports organizations in Europe, they're not dying. If anything they're just pulling out of Korea, which could be bad news for aLive and Oz. I don't see this change affecting any of their European players or their organization on a whole. Doesn't really make sense to have a Korean training house when you have 2 players in Korea.
Taefox
Profile Joined March 2010
1533 Posts
January 11 2013 02:20 GMT
#102
well since Fnatic dominate in FPS and MOBA, i don't see their SC2 do anything like.
Hope aLive and Oz will be fine
@taefoxy
ChriseC
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany440 Posts
January 11 2013 02:23 GMT
#103
never liked fnatic
speknek
Profile Joined February 2012
758 Posts
January 11 2013 02:29 GMT
#104
On January 11 2013 11:20 foxj wrote:
well since Fnatic dominate in FPS and MOBA, i don't see their SC2 do anything like.
Hope aLive and Oz will be fine

1.6 is gone and I wouldn't say they dominate LoL, they're a top3 foreign team. And it's gonna be interesting to see if they will remain so since Rekkles is gone now. But that's all off topic :p.

Hope aLive will be fine, too.
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
January 11 2013 02:33 GMT
#105
On January 11 2013 10:38 BretZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 08:13 pNRG wrote:
On January 11 2013 06:54 testthewest wrote:
On January 11 2013 04:55 schimmetje wrote:
Hmm. New teams promise sun, moon AND all the stars in the sky -> get cheered on all the way through the inevitable fuckups. Established name makes sane financial decision -> funeral held in advance.

G.G.



Well the funeral is more the suspicion that SC2 is losing more ground.
If they leave Korea, the sacred land of esports, this doesn't bode well for SC2.

I don't think we need to fear that any big and old multi-game-team will disband because of it's SC2 division...


Korea is not the sacred land of esports..


Any way to back that claim?

Sacred land of Esports is Brazilia Nation.
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
January 11 2013 04:36 GMT
#106
Haha so happy. Hope this team totally goes under and Alive ends up in a good team like LGIM.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
January 11 2013 04:40 GMT
#107
On January 11 2013 13:36 redviper wrote:
Haha so happy. Hope this team totally goes under and Alive ends up in a good team like LGIM.

why would you hope a team goes under? Especially Fnatic, which has been around for so long and has such a rich history in esports?
www.superbeerbrothers.com
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-11 05:13:35
January 11 2013 05:13 GMT
#108
On January 11 2013 13:40 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 13:36 redviper wrote:
Haha so happy. Hope this team totally goes under and Alive ends up in a good team like LGIM.

why would you hope a team goes under? Especially Fnatic, which has been around for so long and has such a rich history in esports?


Beacuse of the shit way they treated Moon. Any an organization that releases a statement like that deserves bankruptcy.
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
January 11 2013 05:14 GMT
#109
zerosc2 just died
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
steelskAz
Profile Joined December 2012
France6 Posts
January 11 2013 05:37 GMT
#110
bad news for a nice team....
European Protoss Player
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
January 11 2013 05:39 GMT
#111
On January 11 2013 14:13 redviper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 13:40 jmbthirteen wrote:
On January 11 2013 13:36 redviper wrote:
Haha so happy. Hope this team totally goes under and Alive ends up in a good team like LGIM.

why would you hope a team goes under? Especially Fnatic, which has been around for so long and has such a rich history in esports?


Beacuse of the shit way they treated Moon. Any an organization that releases a statement like that deserves bankruptcy.

lmfao. thats... Moon got paid very well by fnatic and didn't deliver. can't believe people got so upset about that.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
January 11 2013 05:40 GMT
#112
Kind of a pity that stuff like this is happening, really hope that what Nightend etc. are saying (that Fnatic isn't screwed) is true.
Alive and Oz have really fallen off, and with ByuL gone, it seems like a lot of the threat in their roster is now kinda done
can i get my estro logo back pls
Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-11 06:31:38
January 11 2013 06:23 GMT
#113
On January 11 2013 09:15 Inz` wrote:
I love how a lot of people in this thread seem to think that any Team that has SC2 players is a StarCraft 2 team only. Fnatic as an organisation is fine and as a StarCraft 2 team is fine. I posted earlier on the front page of this post and NightEnD also posted, things with the StarCraft division aren't going backwards they're very much so going forwards. Stay tuned, and quit this sky is falling bullshit it's getting boring.


you keep saying this for a while, yet nothing and i mean nothing changes for the good.

no more teamhouse, if you ask me its the first step of a slow decay.

only a matter of time until fnatic goes full mediocre foreign team, which no one cares about (except 2 or 3 hipster maybe)

if you want to get back on track and shock people and actually get fans on your side, you got to hire Polt, HyuN and Symbol, for the salary Moon received. TSL members got nothing. Its your turn, now or never.

Fnatic can NOW remain relevant or next month already drow into a meaningless nirvana, while other teams take opportunity

They have all their fate now in their hands.

Good luck
RIP Seung Hyun 'Space' Park † 6/5/2013 - Undead hero and eSports rolemodel
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
January 11 2013 07:30 GMT
#114
On January 11 2013 14:13 redviper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 13:40 jmbthirteen wrote:
On January 11 2013 13:36 redviper wrote:
Haha so happy. Hope this team totally goes under and Alive ends up in a good team like LGIM.

why would you hope a team goes under? Especially Fnatic, which has been around for so long and has such a rich history in esports?


Beacuse of the shit way they treated Moon. Any an organization that releases a statement like that deserves bankruptcy.

How did they treat Moon badly? He received a salary better than other SC2 players which were above his level, just because of his name, yet he never produced results which justified his salary. He wasn't forced to live in the team house like the rest of the players, so he could live with his wife, which is understandable, but it's an even bigger logistical problem for Fnatic. Then, he practiced WC3 to participate in WCG, rather than concentrate on SC2. He failed the qualify for the GSL for the entirety of 2012, failed to qualify for OSL, He did quite well for Fnatic in GSTL, but since they were dropping out for 2013, he was simply an unnecessary and very expensive investment.

Then his contract ran out, or they mutually decided to part ways, I'm sure there were no hard feelings between them.

Yes, I used to drool over his play in WC3, but he's far from being on the same level here, just like ToD for example. You should you be mad that they simply stated the truth? They merely said that his results weren't up to par, which is the obvious truth - they didn't lie or cover it up like most organisations do. They even acknowledged him as a WC3 legend, as well as his close call achievements.

You should be thankful that they gave him the opportunity to continue his legacy. It didn't work out for either party. I wouldn't be surprised if Moon left because he wanted to retire from SC2. We'll see whether he'll try to qualify for GSL Season 2, and then we'll know.
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
PhOeniX[MinD]
Profile Joined August 2008
361 Posts
January 11 2013 07:53 GMT
#115
On January 11 2013 04:36 LTI_sc2 wrote:
We still have Harstem, everything is all right.


when he was doing some commentary at HSC, he was very funny.

i hopes everything go well for the team!
KT_FlaSh #1
WetSocks
Profile Joined June 2012
United States953 Posts
January 11 2013 08:48 GMT
#116
That was quick. Man I really want to see Oz getting some good result just like when he was in FXO.
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
January 11 2013 08:59 GMT
#117
Oz back to FXO i hope.
TL+ Member
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
January 11 2013 10:47 GMT
#118
On January 11 2013 15:23 Inzan1ty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 09:15 Inz` wrote:
I love how a lot of people in this thread seem to think that any Team that has SC2 players is a StarCraft 2 team only. Fnatic as an organisation is fine and as a StarCraft 2 team is fine. I posted earlier on the front page of this post and NightEnD also posted, things with the StarCraft division aren't going backwards they're very much so going forwards. Stay tuned, and quit this sky is falling bullshit it's getting boring.


you keep saying this for a while, yet nothing and i mean nothing changes for the good.

no more teamhouse, if you ask me its the first step of a slow decay.

only a matter of time until fnatic goes full mediocre foreign team, which no one cares about (except 2 or 3 hipster maybe)

if you want to get back on track and shock people and actually get fans on your side, you got to hire Polt, HyuN and Symbol, for the salary Moon received. TSL members got nothing. Its your turn, now or never.

Fnatic can NOW remain relevant or next month already drow into a meaningless nirvana, while other teams take opportunity

They have all their fate now in their hands.

Good luck

Since when korean teamhouse and a bunch of koreans equals successful team ? The things that we know are that they are moving out of their house and they are not participating in GSTL. That probably means that fnatic didn't find what they were seeking in Korea and are pulling out of there. It looks like a business decision to me. The foreign market is way bigger anyways.
SoJu.WeRRa
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (South)820 Posts
January 11 2013 11:03 GMT
#119
Sad news but kinda expected.
나를 찢어갈겨이씨발놈아왜나를미치게만들어니가뭘아는데?
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-11 15:36:14
January 11 2013 15:35 GMT
#120
On January 11 2013 11:23 ChriseC wrote:
never liked fnatic


Blasphemy! They've been an esports staple since pretty much the very beginning. Pioneers, if you will.
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