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Fnatic to close Korean gaming house?

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mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
January 10 2013 18:31 GMT
#1
I'm surprised that a thread hasn't sprung up yet since this has been up on reddit since this morning. I can't read Korean, and Google Translate only produces gibberish for long text in Korean, but apparently, Fnatic is closing down their Korean gaming house according to thisisgame.com's article.

After 10 months in operation, it seems that Fnatic has started cleaning up the apartment, removing the furniture, chairs and equipment, and the closure had been planned for some time. Apparently, accommodation for the players has already been arranged. The news comes about as Fnatic turned down participation for the next GSTL.

Recently, Fnatic lost four of their Korean members, being Ares, ByuL, Moon and Rain, as well as their manager and coach Hwanni, who moved to EG. aLive even changed his Twitter handle, removing the Fnatic tag, though rumours of his departure have been denied by Fnatic representatives and aLive himself.

I will keep this post up to date with any translations of the article, and any reactions by Fnatic.

Fnatic's current roster:
(T)aLive
(P)Oz
(Z)Luvsic
(P)Harstem
(T)Naama
(P)NightEnD

Personal opinion: I think Fnatic took a huge blow with the departure of Hwanni, and could not effectively manage the team without a dedicated link and a coach. Their results in the GSTL were pretty good considering, and whilst it is true that perhaps aLive and Oz slumped a lot, they still managed to foster ByuL into becoming a big team league asset.

PS: For GSTL, the probability is that AZUBU and Axiom will replace TSL and Fnatic.
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partydude89
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1850 Posts
January 10 2013 18:33 GMT
#2
oh. wow. i really hope that they can get their stuff together, i really like FNATIC as a team
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ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
January 10 2013 18:33 GMT
#3
Just a matter of days before Fnatic goes with the house =[

Even more sick free agents now..
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PixelNite
Profile Joined August 2011
France1008 Posts
January 10 2013 18:35 GMT
#4
So this happen when they said one month ago they have some big stuff planned for SC2. Weird
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 10 2013 18:35 GMT
#5
Close up shop, restart, reconsider strategy of not pouring your entire roster into Koreans while dismissing any potential exposure and marketing opportunities you can do with your non-Korean players.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3830 Posts
January 10 2013 18:35 GMT
#6
Wow. It was such a nice team house, too. Was very exciting at the time.
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
January 10 2013 18:35 GMT
#7
On January 11 2013 03:33 ROOTheognis wrote:
Just a matter of days before Fnatic goes with the house =[

Even more sick free agents now..

too many
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Teodice
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden641 Posts
January 10 2013 18:37 GMT
#8
Shiet! Quite a blow to them . Looking forward to a response from Fnatic
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derpface
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden925 Posts
January 10 2013 18:40 GMT
#9
Shit. This isnt good. but cant blame them when their players have really bad results lately.
gg no re #_< no1 Hydra and Leta fan >_#
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
January 10 2013 18:41 GMT
#10
If this turns out to be true, I fear there will be too many good free agents on the market. Unless KeSPA picks up a bunch of players, I see a bunch of these guys retiring =/
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Dirkinity
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany409 Posts
January 10 2013 18:42 GMT
#11
Too many player, less money => Cheaper players. Teams have a huge amout of free agents to choose from and with most teams having huge lineups already, its not likely that many of the free agents will get a new team with a salary.
Inz`
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland120 Posts
January 10 2013 18:43 GMT
#12
There will be a lot of things coming for Fnatic StarCraft 2 in 2013. People have speculated that it's going downhill for the Fnatic SC2 division, I've spoken to the SC2 manager and things aren't going downhill at all, everything's looking bright going into this year!
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 10 2013 18:45 GMT
#13
On January 11 2013 03:43 Inz` wrote:
There will be a lot of things coming for Fnatic StarCraft 2 in 2013. People have speculated that it's going downhill for the Fnatic SC2 division, I've spoken to the SC2 manager and things aren't going downhill at all, everything's looking bright going into this year!


One can hope!
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jackslater
Profile Joined November 2012
Russian Federation604 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-10 18:49:47
January 10 2013 18:47 GMT
#14
Poor Fnatic, it was great a team 3 years ago.. i think fnatic have norm resources and players, but stupid managеment cut this all.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
January 10 2013 18:54 GMT
#15
It was downhill for me after Moon was booted. I understand perfectly well why they did it, but wanting to seen Moon play was what made me want to support Fnatic.
Finnz
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom260 Posts
January 10 2013 18:58 GMT
#16
is this because of sponsors backing down from negotiating with organisations and teams? what is going on with esports right now...seems like so many teams are folding and going bust already this year. #worststartto2013
Inz`
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland120 Posts
January 10 2013 19:00 GMT
#17
On January 11 2013 03:58 Finnz wrote:
is this because of sponsors backing down from negotiating with organisations and teams? what is going on with esports right now...seems like so many teams are folding and going bust already this year. #worststartto2013


Nothing to do with sponsors.
NightEnD
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania107 Posts
January 10 2013 19:00 GMT
#18
If my team decided to close the house in koreea why u all think they close the sc2 section ?:O
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Sunfish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria162 Posts
January 10 2013 19:01 GMT
#19
Sadly, I can't say I'm surprised. They've been cutting back on their Korean players. I'd imagine this was a move long in the making (i.e. even before Hwanni left). Still, great team and good luck to all of them.
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mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
January 10 2013 19:01 GMT
#20
I was surprised they didnt put together a full 10 player roster for their house...
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