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ThorZaIN grabs MVP for Proleague Round 1 - Page 18

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stickyhands
Profile Joined May 2011
187 Posts
January 10 2013 18:01 GMT
#341
On January 11 2013 01:36 LighT. wrote:
Am i the only one seeing this as a slap to the foreign sc2 base? Becausr he won one game vs classic of all people; and ends up with a 1-3 record merits mvp? Seriously??
He deserves MVP over stats, soulkey, rain? Wonder what happens if satouri pulls off a 50% winrate which is quite probable in winner league. Probably end up being labelled as thr greatest thing in the world since sliced bread.

This is a publicity stunt if anything


Sliced bread is overrated
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humblegar
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Norway883 Posts
January 10 2013 18:03 GMT
#342
Really awkward.

Now for some champagne.
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
January 10 2013 18:09 GMT
#343
lol, nice joke :D
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
thragar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-10 18:11:13
January 10 2013 18:10 GMT
#344
On January 11 2013 01:43 ES.Genie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 01:36 LighT. wrote:
Am i the only one seeing this as a slap to the foreign sc2 base? Becausr he won one game vs classic of all people; and ends up with a 1-3 record merits mvp? Seriously??
He deserves MVP over stats, soulkey, rain? Wonder what happens if satouri pulls off a 50% winrate which is quite probable in winner league. Probably end up being labelled as thr greatest thing in the world since sliced bread.

This is a publicity stunt if anything

Seems like Kespa agrees with the majority of foreigners: White dude wins a game - greatest thing ever.
Just look at Goms seeding system. Special treatment for foreigners is sad, but that's just how it seems to work in SC2.


There is a huge difference between naming a foreigner MVP for one win, and getting a Code S seed for good international showing (especially these days, when Koreans are going abroad to compete).

The latter is like Gom saying, "you've been doing great elsewhere, now we'll give you a chance to prove it in Code S." The former is the equivalent of the Koreans clapping really excitedly for a dog that managed to learn a command like "sit".

It's still special treatment of course, but the magnitude does make a difference.

Edit: typo
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3703 Posts
January 10 2013 18:18 GMT
#345
So 1-3 gets you mvp just because you are white?

What a joke, my mvp is Flash...
I'm starting to really hate foreigner bias, like first tournaments drop in viewers when the last foreigner is out (like wtf thats when the games start to be good) and now even kespa shows such huge foreigner bias. I miss the days when being on the b team of a korean team made you the best foreigner...
Moka
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada942 Posts
January 10 2013 18:24 GMT
#346
MVP: Most Valuable Player,

In sports, a Most Valuable Player (MVP) award is an honor typically bestowed upon the best-performing player or players on a specific team, in an entire league, or for a particular contest or series of contests.

While I think it's acceptable that Thorzain's achievement merits to be noticed and honored, they gave him the wrong trophy.
ヾ(@⌒_⌒@)ノ
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
January 10 2013 18:25 GMT
#347
Haha, the "blue eyed warrior" is pretty awesome/hilarious.

I dunno if 1-3 warrants the typical MVP accolade, but since that 1 was such a big deal... I'm still really happy for him
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
January 10 2013 18:27 GMT
#348
Rather stupid, I must say. Some silly statistical fact isn't a valid excuse to give someone MVP award for a single game (losing every other game)... I want good games. I could care less whether they are Korean or not.
how2TL
Profile Joined August 2010
1197 Posts
January 10 2013 18:27 GMT
#349
On January 11 2013 03:24 Moka wrote:
MVP: Most Valuable Player,

In sports, a Most Valuable Player (MVP) award is an honor typically bestowed upon the best-performing player or players on a specific team, in an entire league, or for a particular contest or series of contests.

While I think it's acceptable that Thorzain's achievement merits to be noticed and honored, they gave him the wrong trophy.


But SC2 isn't sports. Heh. Valuable also has multiple connotations.
Chon231
Profile Joined November 2012
United States35 Posts
January 10 2013 20:03 GMT
#350
Way to go Thorzain! GZ GZ GZ
More GG, More Skill.
Heouf
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands787 Posts
January 10 2013 20:17 GMT
#351
Well this is kind of strange. Well cool for him.
Gokba Alhakel
schimmetje
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands1104 Posts
January 10 2013 20:17 GMT
#352
Good for him, hope it gives him some momentum trying to prove he can do much more. Maybe the name of the thing doesn't quite match up with the numbers, but so what. Use what you get.
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jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-10 20:22:29
January 10 2013 20:21 GMT
#353
isnt blue eyed warrior...giyom? (maybe i'm not recalling it correctly)
recycling nicknames eh?

edit: giyom is green eyed warrior ^_^
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
January 10 2013 20:21 GMT
#354
Ehhh, I don't agree, a 25% WLR with only a win against Classic just seems like a PR stunt to me. Just because he is the first foreigner to win in PL in years does not put him in the running for MVP against people with WLR higher than 50% at least. I understand ThorZaIN is a huge part of the foreign scene, but one win does not equal a MVP.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Brindled
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States508 Posts
January 10 2013 20:21 GMT
#355
Dat community.
For shame.
Ua Mau ke Ea o ka ʻĀina i ka Pono @TL_Brindled11
TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
January 10 2013 20:22 GMT
#356
MVP? Really? I get that it was a special win but giving him MVP over Flash is ludacris.
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Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
January 10 2013 20:26 GMT
#357
Next thing you know, they'll start giving awards when you don't lose too badly.
MHT
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1026 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-10 20:31:47
January 10 2013 20:31 GMT
#358
Well it is the "Most Valuable Player" award, don't necessarily have to be about the success of a player.
HereBeDragons
Profile Joined May 2011
1429 Posts
January 10 2013 20:40 GMT
#359
On January 11 2013 05:21 jinorazi wrote:
isnt blue eyed warrior...giyom? (maybe i'm not recalling it correctly)
recycling nicknames eh?

edit: giyom is green eyed warrior ^_^


Guillaume, the double ll is pronouced like a y in french I think.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
January 10 2013 20:41 GMT
#360
I don't like this, but it's great for Thorzain.
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