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MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 00:01:17
December 16 2012 00:00 GMT
#21
On December 16 2012 08:40 fabiano wrote:
Show them League of Legends.


lol, we have found its purpose. But honestly I could care less about making esports globally excepted.
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
December 16 2012 00:13 GMT
#22
On December 16 2012 08:55 snuppe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 08:33 Dontkillme wrote:
Even some of my nerdiest friends find it funny that there is actually competitive video gaming. They are aware of it, but they think it's ridiculous. Most people play video games. However competitive video gaming is something completely different.


Have exactly the same situation. Many of my IRL friends thinks it stupid even if they play the game their selves thought some of my friends follow the scene a lot and we discuss things, it will always be made a fool of if we are together with the ones who thinks it's stupid. Why don't just you play yourself instead of watching him or them? That, they question a lot.

Ask that to anybody that watches football, hockey, soccer, etc. There are millions of them that watch and don't play. Starcraft (or any other game) is just another sport (lets not get into the discussion of VIDEO GAMES ISNT A REAL SPORT).
Refer to my post.
Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
December 16 2012 00:21 GMT
#23
On December 16 2012 07:43 crbox wrote:
I think the reason why sports like football are so popular (watching wise) is because kids played it when they were little. I didn't get to play hockey, basketball or football when I was young. Watching those things all by myself have no interest whatsoever for me, unless I'm with my dad. To enjoy watching something, I feel like you need to have played it in the past to understand. We need those swag kids to start playing SC instead of posting stupid memes on tmblr.


eh

My #swag is level 1000 and I play Starcraft
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BirdKiller
Profile Joined January 2011
United States428 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 00:43:50
December 16 2012 00:33 GMT
#24
Competitive games / E-sports is already known and aware among gamers, it's embracing it that's the issue. The statement "I'd rather play video games than just watch it" is uttered many times in many ways and something the esports community hasn't been able to respond to well. No matter how much information the community puts out that keeps raising awareness of esports and its community, that question will be asked with no answer.

You can bring up real sports where millions of spectators don't regularly play the sport they view, but video games are different: there's something to be proud about to call yourself a hardcore or regular gamer, and to be a gamer, you have to play the game.

At best for most gamers, competitive gaming / esports can be looked on as some sort of multiplayer "tips and tricks" / walkthrough where one spectates not for the sake of spectating, but for the sake of learning more about the game and applying it to be a better gamer. That's how I got interested in SC2 esports, and it's the only reason why I would watch gamers playing a video game that I could be playing instead.
snuppe
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark285 Posts
December 16 2012 00:47 GMT
#25
On December 16 2012 09:13 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 08:55 snuppe wrote:
On December 16 2012 08:33 Dontkillme wrote:
Even some of my nerdiest friends find it funny that there is actually competitive video gaming. They are aware of it, but they think it's ridiculous. Most people play video games. However competitive video gaming is something completely different.


Have exactly the same situation. Many of my IRL friends thinks it stupid even if they play the game their selves thought some of my friends follow the scene a lot and we discuss things, it will always be made a fool of if we are together with the ones who thinks it's stupid. Why don't just you play yourself instead of watching him or them? That, they question a lot.

Ask that to anybody that watches football, hockey, soccer, etc. There are millions of them that watch and don't play. Starcraft (or any other game) is just another sport (lets not get into the discussion of VIDEO GAMES ISNT A REAL SPORT).


No lets not though, I believe it's a real sport
snup likes dota
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 01:23:10
December 16 2012 01:22 GMT
#26
On December 16 2012 09:47 snuppe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 09:13 Zenbrez wrote:
On December 16 2012 08:55 snuppe wrote:
On December 16 2012 08:33 Dontkillme wrote:
Even some of my nerdiest friends find it funny that there is actually competitive video gaming. They are aware of it, but they think it's ridiculous. Most people play video games. However competitive video gaming is something completely different.


Have exactly the same situation. Many of my IRL friends thinks it stupid even if they play the game their selves thought some of my friends follow the scene a lot and we discuss things, it will always be made a fool of if we are together with the ones who thinks it's stupid. Why don't just you play yourself instead of watching him or them? That, they question a lot.

Ask that to anybody that watches football, hockey, soccer, etc. There are millions of them that watch and don't play. Starcraft (or any other game) is just another sport (lets not get into the discussion of VIDEO GAMES ISNT A REAL SPORT).


No lets not though, I believe it's a real sport

I think of it as one as well, but just to remove the chance that people will deviate from my point to mention it

-us watching people play a video game is no different than somebody else watching someone else play basketball
Refer to my post.
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
December 16 2012 01:24 GMT
#27
if the yesterday proleague's matches (war field likely), were been casted with the strong color mod, I had said show them.

If a match is easy to understand (Army A obliterate Army B) without casters, then this is the video that you must show to new people.
Dominions 4: "Thrones of Ascension".
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
December 16 2012 01:51 GMT
#28
I liked it when it wasn't introducing people to eSports and it was more of introducing people to a cool game that had a national audience.
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snuppe
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark285 Posts
December 16 2012 09:38 GMT
#29
On December 16 2012 10:22 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 09:47 snuppe wrote:
On December 16 2012 09:13 Zenbrez wrote:
On December 16 2012 08:55 snuppe wrote:
On December 16 2012 08:33 Dontkillme wrote:
Even some of my nerdiest friends find it funny that there is actually competitive video gaming. They are aware of it, but they think it's ridiculous. Most people play video games. However competitive video gaming is something completely different.


Have exactly the same situation. Many of my IRL friends thinks it stupid even if they play the game their selves thought some of my friends follow the scene a lot and we discuss things, it will always be made a fool of if we are together with the ones who thinks it's stupid. Why don't just you play yourself instead of watching him or them? That, they question a lot.

Ask that to anybody that watches football, hockey, soccer, etc. There are millions of them that watch and don't play. Starcraft (or any other game) is just another sport (lets not get into the discussion of VIDEO GAMES ISNT A REAL SPORT).


No lets not though, I believe it's a real sport

I think of it as one as well, but just to remove the chance that people will deviate from my point to mention it

-us watching people play a video game is no different than somebody else watching someone else play basketball


You are absolutely right!
snup likes dota
MarkCJ
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada239 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 16:19:56
December 16 2012 16:14 GMT
#30
I show them the game first, then if they're still interested I show them the professional aspect. it's like showing people how to play football first, you dont show them professional football first right?
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Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
December 16 2012 21:16 GMT
#31
On December 16 2012 08:54 Louuster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 08:33 Dontkillme wrote:
Even some of my nerdiest friends find it funny that there is actually competitive video gaming. They are aware of it, but they think it's ridiculous. Most people play video games. However competitive video gaming is something completely different.


Basically this, it should be fairly easy if you can get them past the "lolol people playing video games on a stage in front of an audience" part. For some reason, that part is much harder for people to accept than "lolol people playing hockey/football/basketball/whatever sport and making millions". Past that its all about making the game interesting. An easy way is to make them interested in a player/team in particular. A team is harder, but a player is much easier, which is why the early husky casts are so good. He might not have been casting the best games but you hear about this guy TLO so much that he becomes an easy point of entry to competitive sc2.
It does help to have played the game but itse not absolutely necessary. Someone above mentionned that his gf likes MKP, if this is enough to get her to maybe follow his progress in tournaments, maybe cheer for him and eventually his team then this is probably good enough. You dont need every fan of the game to be able to have high level understanding of the strategy. Think of how many people would call themselves football fans but don't know much about the game past basic rules, let alone discuss strategies behind the different plays and formations.


Actually showing them one player is a really good idea. I got into watching starcraft through Klazart's love for Boxer, and hearing about him made me want to watch every game of his I could find. After that I branched out into watching more players and enjoying all of esports. I think it is important to remember how you got into it yourself when sharing with others.
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