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Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
December 11 2012 23:02 GMT
#121
On December 12 2012 07:56 Elem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 07:48 Serinox wrote:
On December 12 2012 07:22 TheMilkyOne wrote:
On December 12 2012 07:19 Serinox wrote:
On December 12 2012 07:18 TheMilkyOne wrote:
I want Liquid'Moon,,,in place of Zenio!!!

Don't hate on Zenio

He show nothing...no good results at all...but Moon can show us Zerg Power!!!

Top 8 IEM Singapore and is now in the EGTL training house. What has Moon done recently?
Yeah, beating HasuObs, White-Ra, Tarrantius, Ninja and Jabito makes him so good. Even Moon could do that with ease. Heck, Moon could probably beat sLivko in a ZvZ too, something Zenio apparently was not capable of.

The tournament ended up bringing more entertaining games/series than expected but honestly it was still very subpar capacity wise.

Well, atleast he still plays some SC2 events and still practices the game. Moon does not play anything SC2 related and has apparantly not even trained SC2 recently in favour for WC3. Can't say he has more value than Zenio atm.
Akash1223
Profile Joined March 2011
United States91 Posts
December 11 2012 23:10 GMT
#122
I don't see the purpose in releasing a statement saying they are parting ways due to lack of results. Fanatic could have easily just stated that they and Moon couldn't come to an agreement or mutually decided to part ways.
Amplify_
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden39 Posts
December 11 2012 23:10 GMT
#123
Realy sad now
Moon is the reason I got into SC2 in the first place, sure he was my favorite player in War3, but when I saw him play Star2 at DHS...)
Realy poorly statement by Fnatic, not even giving Moon the chanse to give his own statement.
Was accually happy too see Moon do great in WCG, just cuz its the only big title in War3 he dosnt have.
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
December 11 2012 23:11 GMT
#124
On December 12 2012 08:02 Serinox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 07:56 Elem wrote:
On December 12 2012 07:48 Serinox wrote:
On December 12 2012 07:22 TheMilkyOne wrote:
On December 12 2012 07:19 Serinox wrote:
On December 12 2012 07:18 TheMilkyOne wrote:
I want Liquid'Moon,,,in place of Zenio!!!

Don't hate on Zenio

He show nothing...no good results at all...but Moon can show us Zerg Power!!!

Top 8 IEM Singapore and is now in the EGTL training house. What has Moon done recently?
Yeah, beating HasuObs, White-Ra, Tarrantius, Ninja and Jabito makes him so good. Even Moon could do that with ease. Heck, Moon could probably beat sLivko in a ZvZ too, something Zenio apparently was not capable of.

The tournament ended up bringing more entertaining games/series than expected but honestly it was still very subpar capacity wise.

Well, atleast he still plays some SC2 events and still practices the game. Moon does not play anything SC2 related and has apparantly not even trained SC2 recently in favour for WC3. Can't say he has more value than Zenio atm.
And you know this how? No one has released any details on how much he practices or not. Even still, Fnatic didn't send him to any events after Valencia and at Assembly Summer he took 4th beating way harder opponents than Zenio did. So how can you use that as a good comparison? Being (relatively) bad still means you're (relatively) bad, no matter the excuses.
#freeshauni
Krogan
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden375 Posts
December 11 2012 23:12 GMT
#125
I am not sure moon has ever been particularly dedicated to sc2 as he seems to have been playing wc3 tournaments this entire time. If he wanted to he could join a korean team, practice only sc2 for a few months and come back as a top tier player but question is always if he has the drive to do that.
Baum
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1010 Posts
December 11 2012 23:16 GMT
#126
On December 12 2012 08:12 Krogan wrote:
I am not sure moon has ever been particularly dedicated to sc2 as he seems to have been playing wc3 tournaments this entire time. If he wanted to he could join a korean team, practice only sc2 for a few months and come back as a top tier player but question is always if he has the drive to do that.


I agree. I don't think Moon was ever as dedicated as the top tier players and yet we have seen some very very good game play out of him during the time he seemed to practice Sc2. I think if he would really dedicate himself he would be a top 3 Zerg easily.
I want to be with those who share secret things or else alone.
Amplify_
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden39 Posts
December 11 2012 23:16 GMT
#127
On December 12 2012 08:12 Krogan wrote:
I am not sure moon has ever been particularly dedicated to sc2 as he seems to have been playing wc3 tournaments this entire time. If he wanted to he could join a korean team, practice only sc2 for a few months and come back as a top tier player but question is always if he has the drive to do that.


He have only played one War3 tournament in 2012, no?
OKMarius
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway469 Posts
December 11 2012 23:17 GMT
#128
On December 12 2012 07:06 LBTC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 06:37 sevia wrote:
He should join Team Grubby.


This would be the best day of my life.


There is no Team Grubby, though. Grubby has said numerous times that he is just a sponsored individual player without a team.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
December 11 2012 23:17 GMT
#129
Moon should just switch race, Zerg is not for him, I don't know why he chose Zerg in the first place.
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
December 11 2012 23:17 GMT
#130
Highly doubt we'll see him in sc2 anymore. Those banelings really did leave an impression.
The universe created an audience for itself.
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
December 11 2012 23:18 GMT
#131
On December 12 2012 08:11 Elem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 08:02 Serinox wrote:
On December 12 2012 07:56 Elem wrote:
On December 12 2012 07:48 Serinox wrote:
On December 12 2012 07:22 TheMilkyOne wrote:
On December 12 2012 07:19 Serinox wrote:
On December 12 2012 07:18 TheMilkyOne wrote:
I want Liquid'Moon,,,in place of Zenio!!!

Don't hate on Zenio

He show nothing...no good results at all...but Moon can show us Zerg Power!!!

Top 8 IEM Singapore and is now in the EGTL training house. What has Moon done recently?
Yeah, beating HasuObs, White-Ra, Tarrantius, Ninja and Jabito makes him so good. Even Moon could do that with ease. Heck, Moon could probably beat sLivko in a ZvZ too, something Zenio apparently was not capable of.

The tournament ended up bringing more entertaining games/series than expected but honestly it was still very subpar capacity wise.

Well, atleast he still plays some SC2 events and still practices the game. Moon does not play anything SC2 related and has apparantly not even trained SC2 recently in favour for WC3. Can't say he has more value than Zenio atm.
And you know this how? No one has released any details on how much he practices or not. Even still, Fnatic didn't send him to any events after Valencia and at Assembly Summer he took 4th beating way harder opponents than Zenio did. So how can you use that as a good comparison? Being (relatively) bad still means you're (relatively) bad, no matter the excuses.

I didn't say Zenio was a very very good player, I said that he was better than Moon atm. Both don't play many tournaments these days, but atleast Zenio still attends some tournaments and plays online qualifiers and team leagues. Moon doesn't play at all these days. And yeah a top 4 finish 4 months ago is not really a valid argument when you are talking about recent form.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
December 11 2012 23:19 GMT
#132
Is he just going to keep playing war3?
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
December 11 2012 23:19 GMT
#133
I love Moon. He was always a player you really wanted to cheer for. Grubby.Moon Inc. WC3 solidarity! Hopefully he finds what is right for him in a team, whether it is as a player or a coach.
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
December 11 2012 23:20 GMT
#134
On December 12 2012 08:17 Mortal wrote:
Highly doubt we'll see him in sc2 anymore. Those banelings really did leave an impression.

Yeah, can't believe how good they were

StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
December 11 2012 23:21 GMT
#135
On December 12 2012 07:48 Serinox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 07:22 TheMilkyOne wrote:
On December 12 2012 07:19 Serinox wrote:
On December 12 2012 07:18 TheMilkyOne wrote:
I want Liquid'Moon,,,in place of Zenio!!!

Don't hate on Zenio

He show nothing...no good results at all...but Moon can show us Zerg Power!!!

Top 8 IEM Singapore and is now in the EGTL training house. What has Moon done recently?

There is no EGTL training house, there's just the EG house and the Liquid guys are living where they lived before afaik.
Sway.746
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States95 Posts
December 11 2012 23:21 GMT
#136
Sad He was my fav WC3 player and could have been my fav SC2 player.
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
December 11 2012 23:23 GMT
#137
On December 12 2012 08:21 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 07:48 Serinox wrote:
On December 12 2012 07:22 TheMilkyOne wrote:
On December 12 2012 07:19 Serinox wrote:
On December 12 2012 07:18 TheMilkyOne wrote:
I want Liquid'Moon,,,in place of Zenio!!!

Don't hate on Zenio

He show nothing...no good results at all...but Moon can show us Zerg Power!!!

Top 8 IEM Singapore and is now in the EGTL training house. What has Moon done recently?

There is no EGTL training house, there's just the EG house and the Liquid guys are living where they lived before afaik.

Well, okay it is the EG house, but Zenio will still live there and practice for their matches:

IamAnton
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada335 Posts
December 11 2012 23:23 GMT
#138
With WCG over you'll likely see him concentrate on SC2 again and roll over almost everyone at DH's and get some high places again this spring/summer then back to WC3 for WCG aslong as WCG includes it.
"Man created God in his own image." - Ludwig Feuerbach
Cassalina
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States65 Posts
December 11 2012 23:26 GMT
#139
to me - a team that exerts that much pressure on its players is not a good place to be. a team in my opinion is a place that most importantly - a player grows, matures and learns as a gamer. pressure is not good for performance. :p also - i'm a warcraft 3 player too, and moon played my race ! a legend indeed; it's a fact that a good team will pick him up and help him blend into the sc2 scene a bit better! can't wait for TL to post that on the front page <3

"advance solidly, fight solidly"
Griznah
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway65 Posts
December 11 2012 23:26 GMT
#140
LoL inc.
Do you feel lucky punk? Well, do ya?
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