On December 12 2012 07:18 TheMilkyOne wrote: I want Liquid'Moon,,,in place of Zenio!!!
Don't hate on Zenio
He show nothing...no good results at all...but Moon can show us Zerg Power!!!
Top 8 IEM Singapore and is now in the EGTL training house. What has Moon done recently?
Yeah, beating HasuObs, White-Ra, Tarrantius, Ninja and Jabito makes him so good. Even Moon could do that with ease. Heck, Moon could probably beat sLivko in a ZvZ too, something Zenio apparently was not capable of.
The tournament ended up bringing more entertaining games/series than expected but honestly it was still very subpar capacity wise.
Well, atleast he still plays some SC2 events and still practices the game. Moon does not play anything SC2 related and has apparantly not even trained SC2 recently in favour for WC3. Can't say he has more value than Zenio atm.
I don't see the purpose in releasing a statement saying they are parting ways due to lack of results. Fanatic could have easily just stated that they and Moon couldn't come to an agreement or mutually decided to part ways.
Realy sad now Moon is the reason I got into SC2 in the first place, sure he was my favorite player in War3, but when I saw him play Star2 at DHS...) Realy poorly statement by Fnatic, not even giving Moon the chanse to give his own statement. Was accually happy too see Moon do great in WCG, just cuz its the only big title in War3 he dosnt have.
On December 12 2012 07:18 TheMilkyOne wrote: I want Liquid'Moon,,,in place of Zenio!!!
Don't hate on Zenio
He show nothing...no good results at all...but Moon can show us Zerg Power!!!
Top 8 IEM Singapore and is now in the EGTL training house. What has Moon done recently?
Yeah, beating HasuObs, White-Ra, Tarrantius, Ninja and Jabito makes him so good. Even Moon could do that with ease. Heck, Moon could probably beat sLivko in a ZvZ too, something Zenio apparently was not capable of.
The tournament ended up bringing more entertaining games/series than expected but honestly it was still very subpar capacity wise.
Well, atleast he still plays some SC2 events and still practices the game. Moon does not play anything SC2 related and has apparantly not even trained SC2 recently in favour for WC3. Can't say he has more value than Zenio atm.
And you know this how? No one has released any details on how much he practices or not. Even still, Fnatic didn't send him to any events after Valencia and at Assembly Summer he took 4th beating way harder opponents than Zenio did. So how can you use that as a good comparison? Being (relatively) bad still means you're (relatively) bad, no matter the excuses.
I am not sure moon has ever been particularly dedicated to sc2 as he seems to have been playing wc3 tournaments this entire time. If he wanted to he could join a korean team, practice only sc2 for a few months and come back as a top tier player but question is always if he has the drive to do that.
On December 12 2012 08:12 Krogan wrote: I am not sure moon has ever been particularly dedicated to sc2 as he seems to have been playing wc3 tournaments this entire time. If he wanted to he could join a korean team, practice only sc2 for a few months and come back as a top tier player but question is always if he has the drive to do that.
I agree. I don't think Moon was ever as dedicated as the top tier players and yet we have seen some very very good game play out of him during the time he seemed to practice Sc2. I think if he would really dedicate himself he would be a top 3 Zerg easily.
On December 12 2012 08:12 Krogan wrote: I am not sure moon has ever been particularly dedicated to sc2 as he seems to have been playing wc3 tournaments this entire time. If he wanted to he could join a korean team, practice only sc2 for a few months and come back as a top tier player but question is always if he has the drive to do that.
He have only played one War3 tournament in 2012, no?
On December 12 2012 07:18 TheMilkyOne wrote: I want Liquid'Moon,,,in place of Zenio!!!
Don't hate on Zenio
He show nothing...no good results at all...but Moon can show us Zerg Power!!!
Top 8 IEM Singapore and is now in the EGTL training house. What has Moon done recently?
Yeah, beating HasuObs, White-Ra, Tarrantius, Ninja and Jabito makes him so good. Even Moon could do that with ease. Heck, Moon could probably beat sLivko in a ZvZ too, something Zenio apparently was not capable of.
The tournament ended up bringing more entertaining games/series than expected but honestly it was still very subpar capacity wise.
Well, atleast he still plays some SC2 events and still practices the game. Moon does not play anything SC2 related and has apparantly not even trained SC2 recently in favour for WC3. Can't say he has more value than Zenio atm.
And you know this how? No one has released any details on how much he practices or not. Even still, Fnatic didn't send him to any events after Valencia and at Assembly Summer he took 4th beating way harder opponents than Zenio did. So how can you use that as a good comparison? Being (relatively) bad still means you're (relatively) bad, no matter the excuses.
I didn't say Zenio was a very very good player, I said that he was better than Moon atm. Both don't play many tournaments these days, but atleast Zenio still attends some tournaments and plays online qualifiers and team leagues. Moon doesn't play at all these days. And yeah a top 4 finish 4 months ago is not really a valid argument when you are talking about recent form.
I love Moon. He was always a player you really wanted to cheer for. Grubby.Moon Inc. WC3 solidarity! Hopefully he finds what is right for him in a team, whether it is as a player or a coach.
With WCG over you'll likely see him concentrate on SC2 again and roll over almost everyone at DH's and get some high places again this spring/summer then back to WC3 for WCG aslong as WCG includes it.
to me - a team that exerts that much pressure on its players is not a good place to be. a team in my opinion is a place that most importantly - a player grows, matures and learns as a gamer. pressure is not good for performance. :p also - i'm a warcraft 3 player too, and moon played my race ! a legend indeed; it's a fact that a good team will pick him up and help him blend into the sc2 scene a bit better! can't wait for TL to post that on the front page <3