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Fnatic and Moon part ways - Page 14

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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
December 12 2012 14:05 GMT
#261
Hm...normal to hear, not too surprising I think
Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
December 12 2012 14:15 GMT
#262
On December 12 2012 22:52 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
I wish TL and EG had the same mentality and would get rid off their dead wood for not performing, it would only make the competition better.


fnatic is a way more professional organisation than EG could ever dream of. More comparable to SK Gaming in their WC3 days.

Why mess around with mediocre players when you can hire big guns to do the job, afterall fnatic dominates both CS and LoL, why be satisfied with mediocre results in SC2?

Calling fnatic to get a lineup for 2013, far scarier than EG or Liquid. Getting players from MVP or Startales should be entirely possible too, we are talking about Moons salary which used to be over 10k /month
RIP Seung Hyun 'Space' Park † 6/5/2013 - Undead hero and eSports rolemodel
HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 14:21:38
December 12 2012 14:18 GMT
#263
On December 12 2012 22:38 Lysanias wrote:
EG Moon !

Either some NA team or he will retire.

EG only recruit good players now. Moon didn't do a thing since Fox disbanded. His past WC3 career alone is not enough to be recruited into a top tier team. I don't see him staying in SC2.
oh, hai
JKM
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark419 Posts
December 12 2012 14:27 GMT
#264
I fear Moon will quit SC2 / gaming for good. GL to Moon and fnatic on their separate ways.
1338, one upping 1337
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 12 2012 14:32 GMT
#265
On December 12 2012 23:18 HornyHerring wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 22:38 Lysanias wrote:
EG Moon !

Either some NA team or he will retire.

EG only recruit good players now. Moon didn't do a thing since Fox disbanded. His past WC3 career alone is not enough to be recruited into a top tier team. I don't see him staying in SC2.


To be fair he did a lot more than most other players did. He's had half a dozen 2nd place finishes and he's been doing double duty by playing SC2 and WC3 with him coming 4th at WCG. He was a pretty talented player for the amount of work he put in.
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
December 12 2012 14:59 GMT
#266
On December 12 2012 23:15 Inzan1ty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 22:52 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
I wish TL and EG had the same mentality and would get rid off their dead wood for not performing, it would only make the competition better.


fnatic is a way more professional organisation than EG could ever dream of. More comparable to SK Gaming in their WC3 days.

Why mess around with mediocre players when you can hire big guns to do the job, afterall fnatic dominates both CS and LoL, why be satisfied with mediocre results in SC2?

Calling fnatic to get a lineup for 2013, far scarier than EG or Liquid. Getting players from MVP or Startales should be entirely possible too, we are talking about Moons salary which used to be over 10k /month


You sure he was getting 10k/month? Because I know he was asking for far less than that before he got picked up by Fnatic. I can't imagine any team doing something like

Player: I want 10k every year
Team: Oh no. You're getting 50k every year.
Player: ....really?
Team: Yes, please, I insist. Take the money.
rast
Profile Joined July 2012
Poland44 Posts
December 12 2012 15:06 GMT
#267
In fact, I really respect Fnatic for this statement. They shown the things as they are, they, as ANY other team out there expects results from their players, that's what they recruit them in the first place. They want sponsors money, and this comes with exposure = results.

I honestly hate the sweet release statements from other teams, when they claim they want the X player to develop and grow, but it's not possible in their organisation, yada yada, the hypocrisy in those kind of statement is so obvious that it hurts.

Good luck Moon, really liked your play, hope he find other team or activity that satisfies him!
kenjilol
Profile Joined November 2011
Finland9 Posts
December 12 2012 15:13 GMT
#268
This statement is very disrespectful from Fnatic and makes Moon look like nobody, they should shame...
derp
Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
December 12 2012 15:16 GMT
#269
On December 12 2012 23:59 Sein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 23:15 Inzan1ty wrote:
On December 12 2012 22:52 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
I wish TL and EG had the same mentality and would get rid off their dead wood for not performing, it would only make the competition better.


fnatic is a way more professional organisation than EG could ever dream of. More comparable to SK Gaming in their WC3 days.

Why mess around with mediocre players when you can hire big guns to do the job, afterall fnatic dominates both CS and LoL, why be satisfied with mediocre results in SC2?

Calling fnatic to get a lineup for 2013, far scarier than EG or Liquid. Getting players from MVP or Startales should be entirely possible too, we are talking about Moons salary which used to be over 10k /month


You sure he was getting 10k/month? Because I know he was asking for far less than that before he got picked up by Fnatic. I can't imagine any team doing something like

Player: I want 10k every year
Team: Oh no. You're getting 50k every year.
Player: ....really?
Team: Yes, please, I insist. Take the money.


should have been a bit less in fnatic, but I am 100% certain this is true for WE Made Fox and his WC3 career.
RIP Seung Hyun 'Space' Park † 6/5/2013 - Undead hero and eSports rolemodel
Snoe
Profile Joined March 2011
Romania16 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 15:38:18
December 12 2012 15:35 GMT
#270
On December 12 2012 23:15 Inzan1ty wrote:
Why mess around with mediocre players when you can hire big guns to do the job, afterall fnatic dominates both CS and LoL, why be satisfied with mediocre results in SC2?
[...]we are talking about Moons salary which used to be over 10k /month


The problem was that the team believed they could train the monster that he is in WC3, for SC2 (his previous salary was for trainining 10-12h/day and changing the way WC3 is currently played).
His results and progress were as expected when you have players as NightEnd & Co. around you (I admit, his macro is better than before joining Fnatic).

What grinds my gears is that after training/playing/eating/sleeping together, even after a serious fight, you don't just throw him away and ignore what he has done for you.
I don't wanna hear shit like 'your comments hurt the community' when Moon fans find an hostile attitude from team Fnatic.

Just let Carn tell you how to become a better gamer by buying a chair, some peripherals and using a chat client while waiting to see the remaining Fnatic SC2 players win a tournament.
Moon Fighting!!!
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28484 Posts
December 12 2012 15:42 GMT
#271
On December 12 2012 05:57 Aleteh wrote:
http://fnatic.com/news/10315/fnatic-and-moon-split.html

Show nested quote +
Fnatic is sad to announce that our famous Zerg player Moon will be leaving the team at the end of the month. Despite doing well in some team leagues and performing decently for FnaticRaidCall in his individual tournaments, his results have not met our expectations and the decision was made for the two parties to go their separate ways. We wish Moon the best of luck in his future endeavors.

Though he was a legend at WC3, the move over to StarCraft 2 has not been full of the results that either Moon or Fnatic wanted. His tournament resume includes a number of close calls, taking silver in tournaments like the NVIDIA Gaming Festival this year and last year's DreamHack Summer.


Wonder where he goes.

He should team up with Grubby. That would be the greatest thing ever.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1977 Posts
December 12 2012 16:40 GMT
#272
On December 13 2012 00:13 kenjilol wrote:
This statement is very disrespectful from Fnatic and makes Moon look like nobody, they should shame...


Though Moon was the 5th race in Wc3 he is a nobody in sc (compared to other koreans).
Total Annihilation Zero
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
December 12 2012 16:41 GMT
#273
sounds very reasonable. hope acer do the samething with mma soon.
Fualtier
Profile Joined November 2010
260 Posts
December 12 2012 17:51 GMT
#274
On December 12 2012 17:46 redviper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 13:54 Y0gi wrote:
On December 12 2012 12:25 redviper wrote:
Seriously fuck fnatic. What a dick statement. I am going to boycott all their sponsors and write to them telling them why also. Hope they drop fnatic, after all its not like fnatc has any results either.



...So this is a little overbearing... Seriously? This is one of the reasons that there are so many problems, over reactions like this. We bitch all the time about how sick we are of silly, copy/paste statements from players and teams... then this happens.

Who is this we who bitch about politeness and respect? Any organization that can't respectfully part ways with a legend is not worth supporting. Infact its totally worth fucking over.

I already wrote dxracer as to why I am cancelling my order for their chair. To be fair the only reason was getting it was moon. Others should do the same.



Return of the angry fanboys. That made me laugh. Thanks :D
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
December 12 2012 18:01 GMT
#275
On December 13 2012 00:35 Snoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 23:15 Inzan1ty wrote:
Why mess around with mediocre players when you can hire big guns to do the job, afterall fnatic dominates both CS and LoL, why be satisfied with mediocre results in SC2?
[...]we are talking about Moons salary which used to be over 10k /month


The problem was that the team believed they could train the monster that he is in WC3, for SC2 (his previous salary was for trainining 10-12h/day and changing the way WC3 is currently played).
His results and progress were as expected when you have players as NightEnd & Co. around you (I admit, his macro is better than before joining Fnatic).

What grinds my gears is that after training/playing/eating/sleeping together, even after a serious fight, you don't just throw him away and ignore what he has done for you.
I don't wanna hear shit like 'your comments hurt the community' when Moon fans find an hostile attitude from team Fnatic.

Just let Carn tell you how to become a better gamer by buying a chair, some peripherals and using a chat client while waiting to see the remaining Fnatic SC2 players win a tournament.

Moon isn't in the teamhouse, he has a family, so he only went to teamhouse to train at most.
Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 18:28:57
December 12 2012 18:27 GMT
#276
Poll: New fnatic recruit?

Genius (4)
 
57%

KeSPa player (2)
 
29%

Foreigner (1)
 
14%

YuGiOh (0)
 
0%

Jjakji (0)
 
0%

viOlet (0)
 
0%

Someone from a GSTL team (0)
 
0%

7 total votes

Your vote: New fnatic recruit?

(Vote): Genius
(Vote): YuGiOh
(Vote): Jjakji
(Vote): viOlet
(Vote): Foreigner
(Vote): KeSPa player
(Vote): Someone from a GSTL team


RIP Seung Hyun 'Space' Park † 6/5/2013 - Undead hero and eSports rolemodel
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
December 12 2012 18:32 GMT
#277
On December 12 2012 06:37 sevia wrote:
He should join Team Grubby.




Lol! Such a cool idea ^_^


I wish someone would do an interview with Moon! I would looove to hear his perspective on things!


This guy was a legend in War3 - He controlled his units like no one else could ! I heard that he was famous for having an extreme practice regiment! I wonder if he's actually able to keep that up any more? What his perspective is on SC2 - if he is as devoted to SC2 as he was to WC3? Is War3 still taking up time? Why he was a God among men in War3 but not in SC2 (Not saying he's bad, at all! But nothing compares to his War3 dominance!)



Big fan here! Hoping to see great things from him in the future!
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
Cattlecruiser
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States340 Posts
December 12 2012 18:47 GMT
#278
I can't see Fnatic getting good enough players for a serious GSTL team...
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
December 12 2012 19:00 GMT
#279
You will regret this fnatic ! I hope Moon goes 5th on your asses in a team league one day , then you will come to respect the God that is moon.

note : yes I am a wc3 fan boy
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
December 12 2012 19:10 GMT
#280
On December 12 2012 22:52 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
I wish TL and EG had the same mentality and would get rid off their dead wood for not performing, it would only make the competition better.


Maybe EG but do you think thats really TL's style? Just pick up promising players then drop them of they dont do so well?

I like to think for at least TL they choose their players carefully and when they sign them, they are with the players in the long run through hell and back. As far as i know no one just joins TL for a year then drops out to another team.
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
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