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DeCoder
Finland236 Posts
On December 12 2012 12:59 crbox wrote: I hope he's not done with sc2 already he's shown some potential (obv...) :D EDIT : And where do you see they were unprofessional O_o They used similar wording when they dismissed players like Fenix, Sen and especially TT1. | ||
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CloudMage
Canada221 Posts
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10348 Posts
On December 12 2012 06:36 Brett wrote: The statement seemed incredibly blunt... Don't think that was necessary. Why should they be scolded for telling the truth? Progamers aren't children that need to be coddled, and if we all agree that the player was underperforming, why is it wrong for the team to mention? | ||
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Animzor
Sweden2154 Posts
On December 12 2012 15:28 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Why should they be scolded for telling the truth? Progamers aren't children that need to be coddled, and if we all agree that the player was underperforming, why is it wrong for the team to mention? Indeed, the only one taking offense is (as fucking always) some random guy on TL who has to cry about everything. | ||
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Sylfyre
Australia222 Posts
On December 12 2012 15:28 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Why should they be scolded for telling the truth? Progamers aren't children that need to be coddled, and if we all agree that the player was underperforming, why is it wrong for the team to mention? Firstly, it's the respect, Moon has been a massive icon in e-sports. The way this has been worded is so heavy handed, basically if this was worded more like "Fnatic and Moon mutually agreed that the current set up wasn't getting the results both sides wanted, and mutually agreed that a change would be better for all parties" that basically makes it not seem like a massive back hand to Moon. It's the wording, it's really really unprofessional. True, they don't need to be coddled, and people may all agree he was under-performing, but it's the heavy handedness of it all. | ||
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Slardar
Canada7596 Posts
On December 12 2012 15:28 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Why should they be scolded for telling the truth? Progamers aren't children that need to be coddled, and if we all agree that the player was underperforming, why is it wrong for the team to mention? The point here is that it's ODD. Let's be honest, this is eSports. Half the time there isn't even A GOD DAMN reason why the player is let go. "We had a change in mentality" more or less is enough of a reason. Moon was a God in RTS and eSports, and still is for a ton of people, myself included. Global RTS before SC2? It was WC3...not BW. Let's say Jaedong lost 100% of his next 50-60 games and EG decided to let him go. To say he underperformed is god damn insulting for no reason, performing bad is insulting enough for pro gamers. | ||
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RaiKageRyu
Canada4773 Posts
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ineversmile
United States583 Posts
On December 12 2012 15:40 RaiKageRyu wrote: Grubby.Moon One can only hope! | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
 GL in real life. You're too old for this shit | ||
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Maxilicious
221 Posts
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magicallypuzzled
United States588 Posts
and yet SLush just remaxxed and rolled him over a minute later. | ||
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Morphs
Netherlands645 Posts
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Inz`
Scotland120 Posts
Moon is a very expensive player and you can bet Fnatic were paying him a substantial amount of money based on his WarCraft 3 reputaitons - that a lot of people seem to think they forgot about. Secondly, when a player like Moon, who's used to these massive monthly salaries comes up for contract negotiations do you really think that he's going to accept a massive pay drop due to his recent results? No, he's not. People in this thread/Reddit and on the fnatic website seem to think it's feasible for Fnatic to shell out all this money without a single penny in return. Someone like Moon WAS a legend, and he did a lot for eSports in general but that reputation alone isn't enough to justify paying him what he wants. Keep in mind Fnatic also has to support 35 other players over 5 different games with multiple events all over the world. Lastly, the wording. A lot of people around here seem to demand the truth when it comes to their beloved Pro Gamers. Fnatic were open and honest about the reasons behind Moon leaving the team and what happens? People get up set. The StarCraft 2 can't handle the truth when it comes to someone they are a fan of. It's like snapping someone back to reality and saying: "That player that used to be good, he's no longer that good" and you get all upset about it? When someone is about to leave a team, that organisation, I don't care who it is. They will not go ahead and promote said player on their website in that leaving post. I doesn't happen and it will never happen. tl;dr - People expect players salaries to grow on trees. People were given a hard dose of the truth and they couldn't handle it, yet they wonder why organisations give bullshit, fluff statements when a players leaves a team. | ||
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Inzan1ty
1163 Posts
a top 3 LoL organisation shouldnt aim for mediocre results so this step is actually reasonable. Shame Moon never played up to the potential he was capable in WC3 tho, but they are different games afterall. Hope he can invest more time into his wife and baby now. wish Jang Jae Ho all the best !! Oh, and Genius to fnatic pls  | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
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TUski
United States1258 Posts
Teehee. | ||
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Mahanaim
Korea (South)1002 Posts
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
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LamaMitHut
Germany187 Posts
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redviper
Pakistan2333 Posts
On December 12 2012 13:54 Y0gi wrote: ...So this is a little overbearing... Seriously? This is one of the reasons that there are so many problems, over reactions like this. We bitch all the time about how sick we are of silly, copy/paste statements from players and teams... then this happens. Who is this we who bitch about politeness and respect? Any organization that can't respectfully part ways with a legend is not worth supporting. Infact its totally worth fucking over. I already wrote dxracer as to why I am cancelling my order for their chair. To be fair the only reason was getting it was moon. Others should do the same. | ||
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