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http://www.complexitygaming.com/news/3916/
Today compLexity Gaming is announcing that we are parting ways with our teammates and friends Kim "Ganzi" Dong Joo and Michael "Goswser" Dobler. For nearly a year Ganzi has been a cornerstone of our StarCraft 2 division with many competitive runs, most notably at MLG Arenas. Goswser was our first promotion from the compLexity Academy and has grown to become a top player in the North American scene.
"We made Ganzi a contract offer for 2013 but were unable to agree on terms." said Jason Lake, Founder and CEO. "Goswser is a true Academy success story that we are proud of. He has decided to train in Europe going forward and we are confident he will continue to grow as a player. Both of these young men are amazing players and people and we wish them both the very best in the future."
We'd like to thank Ganzi and Goswser for all their hard work and dedication during their time with us and wish them the best of luck with their futures and StarCraft 2 careers.
EDIT #1
since i cant update the title, sorry Goswser for misspelling your name
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United States97276 Posts
I'm not surprised about Ganzi because there was some speculation I think after he changed his twitter. Surprised to see Goswser leaving. Good luck finding new teams! Good luck in Europe, Goswser!
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Interesting to see where they will go. 
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Same as shellshock. Unsurprised about Ganzi, definitely more shocked about Goswser.
Ganzi's stock I think has fallen since col picked him up originally, it will be interesting to see where he goes.
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Goswers stock definately rose up today
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wow goswser looks like top zerg atm, beating polt mma and genius recently.
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Liquid.Ganzi 
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Ganzi has a lot of Wrist problems I could see it as a hard problem for him to get another Team,
Goswer just recently took first in his Iron Squid group maybe he will get on a Korean team.
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Who is Goswer? Is he a Goswser fanboy?
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On December 10 2012 16:52 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
Ganzi has a lot of Wrist problems I could see it as a hard problem for him to get another Team,
Goswer just recently took first in his Iron Squid group maybe he will get on a Korean team.
not to mention he will be going to the military sooner than later. its why he left slayers in the first place, so he could travel and play in as many tournaments as possible. i hope ganzi finds a team soon and that his wrists hold up.
shocked about gowser. was living in the coL house, coL is the team that really discovered him. Remember when he beat Polt at MLG while still on the academy team? Curious move he is making to go train in Europe. Seems like he has something lined up? best of luck.
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Goswser coming to France (I predict ), that's gonna be great, he is turning into a beast at the moment
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Didn't Ganzi say something on his twitter about how he missed Korea? I thought he said something about feeling lonely in the US too.
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This is interesting, I wonder where both of them will end up. Goswser going to europe seems a bit odd, but perhaps Mouz or another EU team has something lined up. If he is going to the MoW then this is such a strange move...
Ganzi is a great personality and I would love to see him get picked up my someone else, I thought he was a good fit complexity though.
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I predict goswser in millenium's roster soon !
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I really hope the best for these two guys.
Goswser going to Europe sort of puzzles me, I am really curious who has picked him up/is hosting him over there. I honestly wouldn't have been surprised to see him go to Korea or something with his recent performances. Very interested to see how this plays out for the two of these guys.
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Training in Europe? Well thats only Millenium or NewRoSoft with teamhouses right (and MoW)
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coL's roster is pretty much Heart, qxc and Sasquatch. Hopefully some big pickups incoming.
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2 French predictions in this thread for Mill.Goswser. Could it be wishful thinking, or do they know something?
Anyways, good luck Ganzi and Goswser.
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On December 10 2012 17:16 algue wrote:
I predict goswser in millenium's roster soon !
Why should a random NA player join Millenium?
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On December 10 2012 17:23 CuteZergling wrote:
2 French predictions in this thread for Mill.Goswser. Could it be wishful thinking, or do they know something?
Anyways, good luck Ganzi and Goswser.
If he goes to Europe thats the only thing that makes sense.
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It is weird, because Ganzi's stream didn't have any more complexity signs, but he was still staying at the coL house until yesterday.
GL to both.
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goswser joins Millenium, announcement today at 8 Pm CET.
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On December 10 2012 17:25 Swish 41 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 17:16 algue wrote:
I predict goswser in millenium's roster soon ! Why should a random NA player join Millenium?
Cuz M need a Zerg.
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Goswser is going to join Mill! Mill manager's said that the new Mill was to ipl 5, was a zerg and win his first round. Only Goswser and scarllett has done that
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On December 10 2012 17:25 Swish 41 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 17:16 algue wrote:
I predict goswser in millenium's roster soon ! Why should a random NA player join Millenium?
Still an improvement over Dragon.
Anyhow, goswser has plenty of potential. I just wish he would change his ID to something more manageable.
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On December 10 2012 17:31 darkshad30000 wrote:
Goswser is going to join Mill! Mill manager's said that the new Mill was to ipl 5, was a zerg and win his first round. Only Goswser and scarllett has done that
Well, that's pretty cool for him if its true. Good luck to both players in their future.
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Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
Not surprised about GanZi
EXTREMELY surprised about goswser though O_o;;
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Go Go Axiom pick up Ganzi!
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just cause he isnt famous dosent mean he isnt good go look at his last results and tell me straigh in the face he isnt good?
i hate how people downvote someone skill just cause he isnt famous
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+ Show Spoiler +On December 10 2012 17:08 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 16:52 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
Ganzi has a lot of Wrist problems I could see it as a hard problem for him to get another Team,
Goswer just recently took first in his Iron Squid group maybe he will get on a Korean team. not to mention he will be going to the military sooner than later. its why he left slayers in the first place, so he could travel and play in as many tournaments as possible. i hope ganzi finds a team soon and that his wrists hold up. shocked about gowser. was living in the coL house, coL is the team that really discovered him. Remember when he beat Polt at MLG while still on the academy team? Curious move he is making to go train in Europe. Seems like he has something lined up? best of luck.
Ganzi said on his stream before that he'd be going to the military 3-4 years from now.
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How the hell do you pronounce Goswser?
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AxiomGanzi sounds good to me! 
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On December 10 2012 18:03 B.I.G. wrote:
How the hell do you pronounce Goswser?
gosu user
get it w is double u
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On December 10 2012 17:25 Swish 41 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 17:16 algue wrote:
I predict goswser in millenium's roster soon ! Why should a random NA player join Millenium?
Millenium/Llewellys has a good eye for talent. If they want him, it's because they see something in him. And he has gotten pretty good results recently, it makes some sense.
He will join Millenium, Otolia already said it yesterday, so the french community obviously knows it already.
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Best of wishes to Goswser in Millenium.
He's a really kool dood in person once you get to know him.
Also, I'm thinking GanZi left because he wasn't too happy with his recent results. He might rejoin a Korean team, perhaps?
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So Mill.Goswser and Axiom.GanZi? Or Liquid.GanZi for Proleague?
And let's see how coL will refill their ranks...
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Kinda suprised about goswser but i guess Millenium would be perfect for him!
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good luck to both of you nerds
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I forget whether ganzi has done his military service yet. Perhaps that could be why he left? I remember when he and taeja left slayers, one of them was talking about joining a foreign team for a little bit, then going to do their military service.
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not much choice of teams who have team houses in Europe, unless he goes to MoW:
Millenium (house in Marseille)
Alien Invasion (house in Germany)
ESC Gaming (house in Germany)
Fnatic (office in London)
SK Gaming (office in Germany)
Alternate (office in Germany, i think)
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Complexity could be the next team disbanding, after Quantic.
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I like how Complexity can offer positive talk to both players and wish them great luck without a single negative comment, even though it seemed like Ganzi and Complexity probably argued over financial issues. I'm probably wrong but nonetheless, great to see from a very professional team. :DDD
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On December 10 2012 18:41 mikkmagro wrote:
not much choice of teams who have team houses in Europe, unless he goes to MoW:
Millenium (house in Marseille)
Alien Invasion (house in Germany)
ESC Gaming (house in Germany)
Fnatic (office in London)
SK Gaming (office in Germany)
Alternate (office in Germany, i think)
hope not, their LoL team is top 2 in the world now, players that arent better than Oz or aLive (GanZi and gowser clearly arent) would keep the team mediocre as it is. just wish fnatic would get back on the top of foreign teams and recruit some real huge names :/
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On December 10 2012 18:44 JtoK wrote:
Complexity could be the next team disbanding, after Quantic.
Complexity is much more than just an SC2 team, they won't be disbanding any time soon.
Best of luck to Ganzi and goswser!
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On December 10 2012 18:00 ROOTMajOr wrote:
go look at his last results and tell me straigh in the face he isnt good?
He isn't good.
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SKT Ganzi, the True Dong in Proleague.
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On December 10 2012 18:04 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 17:25 Swish 41 wrote:On December 10 2012 17:16 algue wrote:
I predict goswser in millenium's roster soon ! Why should a random NA player join Millenium? Millenium/Llewellys has a good eye for talent. If they want him, it's because they see something in him. And he has gotten pretty good results recently, it makes some sense. He will join Millenium, Otolia already said it yesterday, so the french community obviously knows it already.
Technically I predicted it last month here.
The whole story was, during a showmatch between ForGG and Symbol (7/11), Llewellys announced that the new zerg wasn't neither from EU nor Korean. So we were left with a few possibilities among hailing from NA which goswser and ostojiy were the only reasonable choice : ViBE wasn't going to leave ROOT, IdrA won't ever leave EG, scarlett likes Nerchio and acer whereas Suppy and Fitzyhere were still relative unknown.
Yesterday, goswser was announced to be at the Millenium house next weekend (during a MillTV stream) and Thud from Ponf&Thud also disclosed that goswser who won his Iron Squid group was signing with a big team (relative since coL is also a big team ^^)
All in all, we were just waiting coL to announce the release of goswser as Llewellys isn't a person who poach players.
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Complexity shrinking fast these days
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On December 10 2012 18:44 JtoK wrote:
Complexity could be the next team disbanding, after Quantic.
coL and Quantic have a very different economic model of an eSports club. coL has been operating almost since the beginning of NA eSports, whilst Quantic got handy investors in 2011 and instantly shot up to fame, but as soon as investment money stopped, the team defaulted. coL gets money from a variety of sources, and also has some of the biggest names in eSports for management.
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I am really happy for both of them. Hopefully Goswer can keep expanding his talents on Europe.
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Goswser can become the best player to represent NA if he keeps this trajectory. Best of luck to Millennium an CompLexity
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ganzi still has to do his military service i believe.
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On December 10 2012 18:54 mikkmagro wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 18:44 JtoK wrote:
Complexity could be the next team disbanding, after Quantic. coL and Quantic have a very different economic model of an eSports club. coL has been operating almost since the beginning of NA eSports, whilst Quantic got handy investors in 2011 and instantly shot up to fame, but as soon as investment money stopped, the team defaulted. coL gets money from a variety of sources, and also has some of the biggest names in eSports for management.
Nice words, but the fact is, they are both unsuccesful and their players are not that popular, even with the best business model this ship can only sink.. I called it when Quantic died, because both teams are quite similar and struggle to win anything.
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Didn't Ganzi say last year, when he joined complexity, that he will leave for military in 2013?
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Goswer coming to us to Europe? Oh yeah!
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On December 10 2012 18:44 JtoK wrote:
Complexity could be the next team disbanding, after Quantic.
No! Watch last StarCast with Jason Lake. He said its the time of changes, because contracts run out. Complexity is after some "Ex-Quantic" and Teamless-Korean Players. So don't panic, you can keep 50% of NA ProTeams. :D
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Llewelys announed that Millenium will recruit a non-european/non-korean zerg player, that was qualified for IPL5, this news just confirm it.
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goodbye my loves 
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On December 10 2012 19:55 d2bonzai wrote:
Llewelys announed that Millenium will recruit a non-european/non-korean zerg player, that was qualified for IPL5, this news just confirm it.
Like Acer with their Zerg-Recruitment?
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On December 10 2012 16:52 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
Ganzi has a lot of Wrist problems I could see it as a hard problem for him to get another Team,
Goswer just recently took first in his Iron Squid group maybe he will get on a Korean team.
did he? nice. really wanted to watch it this morning but had to go to work. I like goswser (great name), seems to be doing well recently so lets see who pick him up
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Wish them the best. They are gonna start announcing ex-Quantic player pick-ups any day now..
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Millenium want to add a Top player. Maybe Ganzi or Goswer will join this team.
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Goswser is going to Millenium. 100% sure.
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Knew about Ganzi for a while due to his twitter changes, but glad an official announcement was made.
I'm reallyl wondering where he will go due to his current situation. Maybe Axiom will pick him up?
Good luck to Gowser and Ganzi!
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On December 10 2012 19:33 RaelSan wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 18:54 mikkmagro wrote:On December 10 2012 18:44 JtoK wrote:
Complexity could be the next team disbanding, after Quantic. coL and Quantic have a very different economic model of an eSports club. coL has been operating almost since the beginning of NA eSports, whilst Quantic got handy investors in 2011 and instantly shot up to fame, but as soon as investment money stopped, the team defaulted. coL gets money from a variety of sources, and also has some of the biggest names in eSports for management. Nice words, but the fact is, they are both unsuccesful and their players are not that popular, even with the best business model this ship can only sink.. I called it when Quantic died, because both teams are quite similar and struggle to win anything.
This comment is so fucking stupid. So so so fucking stupid.
coL isn't going to die soon.
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Mill.GoswerPATCHZERG incoming ;-)
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Pretty bold move by ganzi given how many really talented teamless korean there are atm, hope he finds a new home soon.
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French people who follow the Millenium TV already knew Goswser was going to do great results in his Ironsquid group.
I remember Llewellys (Millenium manager) saying that twitch ads were earning 3x as much when the viewer was American compared to French or European so it makes sense to have more American fans. And there are much more tournaments in Europe so that's good for Goswser.
I think Goswser will cast the Numericable cup along with Tod, but after beating MMA and Genius I think he can do well against MKP, Stephano and MC too.
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Good Luck Goswser to Millenium ! .o/
Nice player and nice team ! .o/
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On December 10 2012 20:56 Lorch wrote:
Pretty bold move by ganzi given how many really talented teamless korean there are atm, hope he finds a new home soon.
Wasn't he supposed to stop his career in order to do his military service ?
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Norway25712 Posts
Wonder where Goswser is going to end up. GanZi might be taking a break with his wrist issues. He hasn't really been performing lately...
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On December 10 2012 21:16 KristofferAG wrote:
Wonder where Goswser is going to end up. GanZi might be taking a break with his wrist issues. He hasn't really been performing lately...
Sometimes the thread contains valuable information beside the original post
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I heard rumor MillGoswser announced by end of this week.. May be true because many of their players left recently
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On December 10 2012 21:22 Scarlett` wrote:
I heard rumor MillGoswser announced by end of this week.. May be true because many of their players left recently
It's going to be announced tonight at 20:00 (CET) and it's a certainty.
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On December 10 2012 17:25 Swish 41 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 17:16 algue wrote:
I predict goswser in millenium's roster soon ! Why should a random NA player join Millenium?
HuK.........
Also, I was hoping ROOTGoswser.
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Millenium recently announced a new player indeed. The only player we found to be the one was goswer but he was still in coL. Now that he is officialy leaving there is no doubt he'll join millenium.
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Millenium Gowser ( ^^ ) just won genius and nerchio and finish 1st in his Ironsquid Group !
Good job, but great lost for complexity
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Millenium Goswser! Millenium needs another killer!
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all i've seen from goswser is BM and self-pity.
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With Ghanzi and Goswer Complexity loose there best player and there best American. GL to them to recover from it because they were already doing pretty bad. GL to Goswer with Millenium (in France it is "anouced" by the community since like a month). If he keeps training in EU instead of NA he can only get better and he is still very young.
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Step 1) M announces M.Goswser tonight
Step 2) coL fights back and post a long statement confirming that Goswser remains with coL
Step 3) ??
Step 4) Profit
Dejà vu, but can't refuse the good'ol classics
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On December 10 2012 18:03 B.I.G. wrote:
How the hell do you pronounce Goswser?
Don't listen to them, I know him personally and its pronounced gAHs-wa-saus-er
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On December 10 2012 22:53 sambo400 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 18:03 B.I.G. wrote:
How the hell do you pronounce Goswser? Don't listen to them, I know him personally and its pronounced gAHs-wa-saus-er
GOSU_USER
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On December 10 2012 22:29 LeLfe wrote:
Step 1) M announces M.Goswser tonight
Step 2) coL fights back and post a long statement confirming that Goswser remains with coL
Step 3) ??
Step 4) Profit
Dejà vu, but can't refuse the good'ol classics
lol
So Ganzi has been having wrist issues? How am I so oblivious to things happening the whole time?
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On December 10 2012 17:23 Ruscour wrote:
coL's roster is pretty much Heart, qxc and Sasquatch. Hopefully some big pickups incoming.
The definitely have enough to chose from. Col.Tarson? A boy can dream.
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Is GanZi switching to LoL? I picked this up on his twitter
GanZi @GanZi1987
who is want with me playing lol ?! the first play lol probably...soon i'm switch lol...
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On December 10 2012 23:17 bazaaaah wrote:
Is GanZi switching to LoL? I picked this up on his twitter
GanZi @GanZi1987
who is want with me playing lol ?! the first play lol probably...soon i'm switch lol...
he said he was kidding a few tweets later
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On December 10 2012 23:17 bazaaaah wrote:
Is GanZi switching to LoL? I picked this up on his twitter
GanZi @GanZi1987
who is want with me playing lol ?! the first play lol probably...soon i'm switch lol...
I hope he doesn't think he can just " switch to LoL " and instantly get a spot on a good professional team, it doesn't work like that. Every sc2 pro that has " switched " to LoL has done nothing in the LoL scene at all. There's only one league in Korea and all the spots are taken by established teams who don't often change their rosters. It's just as hard to break into as sc2, if not harder.
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On December 10 2012 22:29 LeLfe wrote:
Step 1) M announces M.Goswser tonight
Step 2) coL fights back and post a long statement confirming that Goswser remains with coL
Step 3) ??
Step 4) Profit
Dejà vu, but can't refuse the good'ol classics
Step 5 : M procedd to focus on the french scene and crush aAa anyway.
I know I can't refuse a good classic.
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On December 10 2012 22:53 sambo400 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 18:03 B.I.G. wrote:
How the hell do you pronounce Goswser? Don't listen to them, I know him personally and its pronounced gAHs-wa-saus-er
Now you're just lying. He's stated that it is 'Gosu User''.
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Good Luck Gowser and GanZi
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Ganzi's retirement possibly ?
Suprised about Goswser even more, well best of lock to both.
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If he does go to France I hope that he's prepared for the culture shock and everything being fucking closed on a Sunday -_-. And isn't Millenium's house in Marseille?(that might be completely wrong), but if it isn't it's a pretty shit/dangerous place to live.
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On December 10 2012 23:32 MyTHicaL wrote:
If he does go to France I hope that he's prepared for the culture shock and everything being fucking closed on a Sunday -_-. And isn't Millenium's house in Marseille?(that might be completely wrong), but if it isn't it's a pretty shit/dangerous place to live.
Millenium's house is on Marseille but it is safe don't worry.
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To Europe? Interesting :B
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On December 10 2012 22:56 Swish 41 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 22:53 sambo400 wrote:On December 10 2012 18:03 B.I.G. wrote:
How the hell do you pronounce Goswser? Don't listen to them, I know him personally and its pronounced gAHs-wa-saus-er GOSU_USER
bahahahaha! I get it! U_U = W = double U = double you
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On December 10 2012 23:24 Otolia wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 22:29 LeLfe wrote:
Step 1) M announces M.Goswser tonight
Step 2) coL fights back and post a long statement confirming that Goswser remains with coL
Step 3) ??
Step 4) Profit
Dejà vu, but can't refuse the good'ol classics
Step 5 : M procedd to focus on the french scene and crush aAa anyway. I know I can't refuse a good classic.
Not competing in the same division good sir! but keep those buttmad reactions coming, lovin' it
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Awesome to see Goswser still progressing and looking to join a EU team
Best of luck to both Ganzi and Goswser I hope you guys find a team soon!
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On December 10 2012 23:32 MyTHicaL wrote:
If he does go to France I hope that he's prepared for the culture shock and everything being fucking closed on a Sunday -_-. And isn't Millenium's house in Marseille?(that might be completely wrong), but if it isn't it's a pretty shit/dangerous place to live.
There's some guns and militia problems but it's pretty soft in comparaison to what you can find in the US.
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On December 10 2012 23:19 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 23:17 bazaaaah wrote:
Is GanZi switching to LoL? I picked this up on his twitter
GanZi @GanZi1987
who is want with me playing lol ?! the first play lol probably...soon i'm switch lol...
I hope he doesn't think he can just " switch to LoL " and instantly get a spot on a good professional team, it doesn't work like that. Every sc2 pro that has " switched " to LoL has done nothing in the LoL scene at all. There's only one league in Korea and all the spots are taken by established teams who don't often change their rosters. It's just as hard to break into as sc2, if not harder.
Indeed it's naive. LoL's bigger prizes are split 5 ways which make that usually worse or about the same after the clever dividing maths is done. It's also easier so it's very hard to be noteworthy in a sea of people around the skill cap. That in turn means skill doesn't translate to wins.
Smart ones know it's not a good move.
Switching to LoL seems to be a standard joke amonst the korean SC2 players.
Check out Nestea thowing it out in Legend of the Swarm.
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+ Show Spoiler +On December 10 2012 21:14 Serimek wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 20:56 Lorch wrote:
Pretty bold move by ganzi given how many really talented teamless korean there are atm, hope he finds a new home soon. Wasn't he supposed to stop his career in order to do his military service ?
Again, Ganzi said on one of his past streams that he'd be fulfilling his military duties in 3-4 years.
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Wow, turns out I'm behind in scene news, I thought Ganzi was still part of Slayers.
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All the Complexity guys on Reddit are saying that Goswser already has a new team, so that's good.
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On December 11 2012 00:26 Dexington wrote:
All the Complexity guys on Reddit are saying that Goswser already has a new team, so that's good.
Yeah it is Millenium ^_^
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On December 11 2012 00:26 kafkaesque wrote:
Wow, turns out I'm behind in scene news, I thought Ganzi was still part of Slayers.
You're behind by about 10 months, he left Slayers in march.
Also, about Slayers...I have some bad news for you, they're dead.
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Congrats to goswser! Hopefully he'll get even better training in Europe.
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On December 10 2012 23:50 LeLfe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 23:24 Otolia wrote:On December 10 2012 22:29 LeLfe wrote:
Step 1) M announces M.Goswser tonight
Step 2) coL fights back and post a long statement confirming that Goswser remains with coL
Step 3) ??
Step 4) Profit
Dejà vu, but can't refuse the good'ol classics
Step 5 : M procedd to focus on the french scene and crush aAa anyway. I know I can't refuse a good classic. Not competing in the same division good sir! but keep those buttmad reactions coming, lovin' it
I am baffled at your reaction. Is it even possible to talk about aAa without you getting very defensive over it ? Last time the two teams faced in a french team league, Millenium won easily; that's the only thing I was reminiscing. I am not mad about what you said, but you are obviously hurt and it saddens me.
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liquid_goswser, you heard it here first!
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It's tue, Goswser will join Millenium.
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well, Goswser did have great success in Iron Squid recently...
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On December 11 2012 00:35 Otolia wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 23:50 LeLfe wrote:On December 10 2012 23:24 Otolia wrote:On December 10 2012 22:29 LeLfe wrote:
Step 1) M announces M.Goswser tonight
Step 2) coL fights back and post a long statement confirming that Goswser remains with coL
Step 3) ??
Step 4) Profit
Dejà vu, but can't refuse the good'ol classics
Step 5 : M procedd to focus on the french scene and crush aAa anyway. I know I can't refuse a good classic. Not competing in the same division good sir! but keep those buttmad reactions coming, lovin' it I am baffled at your reaction. Is it even possible to talk about aAa without you getting very defensive over it ? Last time the two teams faced in a french team league, Millenium won easily; that's the only thing I was reminiscing. I am not mad about what you said, but you are obviously hurt and it saddens me.
aw~I hate making you sad
let's look at it from another angle: I post something just to make fun of last year's situation (that actually was funny). You see it's from me and feel like you should remember me M> aAa (thank you cap'tain, I'm the first one to claim it!) Isn't it a bit "over defensive"? like would you have posted something like this with someone on another team? I should return your question s it even possible to talk about M without you getting very defensive over it ? (when it's actually pretty on topic )
Obviously you got angry when I joked about last year's situation, but I don't blame you, that's what fanboys do.
have a wonderful day
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Gl to them, hope they find new teams soon. I wonder if this means col has some money to play with.
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On December 10 2012 17:25 Swish 41 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 17:16 algue wrote:
I predict goswser in millenium's roster soon ! Why should a random NA player join Millenium?
Because they need a Zerg, Millennium is losing players left and right, and goswser is a good mid-tier player and Millennium is a mid-tier team? Plus the fact that goswser wants to travel to Europe? It's a pretty good fit; I could see it happening.
Good luck to goswser and Ganzi!
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On December 10 2012 22:29 LeLfe wrote:
Step 1) M announces M.Goswser tonight
Step 2) coL fights back and post a long statement confirming that Goswser remains with coL
Step 3) ??
Step 4) Profit
Dejà vu, but can't refuse the good'ol classics
Hahahaha wasn't that reversed though, when Stephano tried leaving Millennium for Complexity and couldn't because he was legally bound to Millennium?
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gl to goswser, I hope he finds a new team soon enough
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On December 10 2012 23:19 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 23:17 bazaaaah wrote:
Is GanZi switching to LoL? I picked this up on his twitter
GanZi @GanZi1987
who is want with me playing lol ?! the first play lol probably...soon i'm switch lol...
I hope he doesn't think he can just " switch to LoL " and instantly get a spot on a good professional team, it doesn't work like that. Every sc2 pro that has " switched " to LoL has done nothing in the LoL scene at all. There's only one league in Korea and all the spots are taken by established teams who don't often change their rosters. It's just as hard to break into as sc2, if not harder.
The difference is, with SC2 you can play alone.
If I really wanted to, I could play starcraft 12 hours a day and still not have to worry about money since I'm a company director. But not everyone can afford the living costs when being a progamer means you can't work. See where I am going with this?
LoL is a team game that requires all players to play together, whereas anyone who gets good at sc2 can enter the tournaments and work their way up alone through the open brackets etc.
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Millenium is a good team, gl goswser !
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What if we could see Axiom Ganzi?
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EG.GOSWSER EG.GANZI
..EG.EVERYWHERE
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compLexity is becoming a weak team without GanZi and Goswser, especially without GanZi.
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Would be great if EG picked up Ganzi since their terran line up is poor. Ganzi speaks nice English, so good marketing potential there!
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On December 10 2012 17:25 Swish 41 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 17:16 algue wrote:
I predict goswser in millenium's roster soon ! Why should a random NA player join Millenium?
The last "random NA player" who joined Millenium was HuK. He didn't remain really "random" after that.
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On December 11 2012 02:50 TheRavensName wrote:
What if we could see Axiom Ganzi?
It would really be the ex-SlayerS team. The semi A-team as well.
Ryung, Miya, Crank, Ganzi lol.
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On December 10 2012 22:21 Hermesio wrote:
With Ghanzi and Goswer Complexity loose there best player and there best American. GL to them to recover from it because they were already doing pretty bad. GL to Goswer with Millenium (in France it is "anouced" by the community since like a month). If he keeps training in EU instead of NA he can only get better and he is still very young.
my god, it's sad how everyone always forgets about Heart :/
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Wondering if any of them will end up joining up with the rumoured new team. Would not be surprised if Ganzi got picked up by them, or a team like Axiom because he's a pretty good player.
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Col seems pretty irrelevant. They don't win anything at all, I'm kind of concerned about their long term longevity
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On December 11 2012 00:26 kafkaesque wrote:
Wow, turns out I'm behind in scene news, I thought Ganzi was still part of Slayers.
Umm.. nobody is apart of SlayerS
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On December 11 2012 04:44 PhoenixDark wrote:
Col seems pretty irrelevant. They don't win anything at all, I'm kind of concerned about their long term longevity
I assume you didn't see almost all of coL's members get close to champ bracket at MLG...? Even Fuzzy an academy member was what, 1 or 2 rounds off? Yeah, pretty irrelevant.
Just because you don't see people's games casted doesn't mean they aren't some of the best NA players. You should pay attention! :D
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On December 11 2012 00:33 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 00:26 kafkaesque wrote:
Wow, turns out I'm behind in scene news, I thought Ganzi was still part of Slayers. You're behind by about 10 months, he left Slayers in march. Also, about Slayers...I have some bad news for you, they're dead.
LOL :D made my day hahaha
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wonder where ganzi will go, really talented player and i love his attics.
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On December 11 2012 03:48 Accelerator wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 02:50 TheRavensName wrote:
What if we could see Axiom Ganzi? It would really be the ex-SlayerS team. The semi A-team as well. Ryung, Miya, Crank, Ganzi lol.
yugioh incoming next Ax
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Best bet is he will go to Ax since they're all about picking up korean bosses
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Noooo now the CoL FFAs will be less fun to watch.
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I hope we see LiquidGanzi for sure!
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On December 10 2012 17:25 Swish 41 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 17:16 algue wrote:
I predict goswser in millenium's roster soon ! Why should a random NA player join Millenium?
lololo
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Axiom Ganzi. You heard it here first, folks.
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On December 11 2012 12:45 Jintoss wrote:
Axiom Ganzi. You heard it here first, folks.
No you didn't
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On December 11 2012 12:47 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 12:45 Jintoss wrote:
Axiom Ganzi. You heard it here first, folks. No you didn't
Yea... I said it first a while ago. But does this mean it wont happen? /pout
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I am sure they will find good new teams they are great players
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On December 10 2012 18:04 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 17:25 Swish 41 wrote:On December 10 2012 17:16 algue wrote:
I predict goswser in millenium's roster soon ! Why should a random NA player join Millenium? Millenium/Llewellys has a good eye for talent. If they want him, it's because they see something in him. And he has gotten pretty good results recently, it makes some sense. He will join Millenium, Otolia already said it yesterday, so the french community obviously knows it already.
Mill also has an eye for relatively bm players. Adelscott, Lalush... goswser fits well. Haha ; )
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Good luck to both of them!
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EPT
