• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 17:35
CET 23:35
KST 07:35
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-186Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises1Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ What are former legends up to these days? BW General Discussion How soO Began His ProGaming Dreams Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] WB & LB Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Has Anyone Tried Kamagra Chewable for ED? 12 Days of Starcraft
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Saturation point
Uldridge
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1537 users

Fantasy Proleague '12-13 Round 1 - Page 19

Forum Index > SC2 General
1887 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 17 18 19 20 21 95 Next
View results and standings here.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
December 07 2012 19:33 GMT
#361
On December 08 2012 04:14 Bibbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 04:01 Killer Instinct wrote:
I have a feeling that (P)Bisu is gonna screw up every anti-team...

It's really weird. I could understand if he cost a lot of points, then it would kinda make sense to stick him on the anti-team given his kinda poor performance. But for only 4 points, it feels like a huge risk for not that much reward. >_>


I agree, that's why he is no longer on my anti even if it seemed good at first .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
5c0rp10n
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany342 Posts
December 07 2012 19:48 GMT
#362
I think its a really nice idea and i will participate! But why didnt you also do it for gsl?
| NaNiwa | CJ`herO |
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
December 07 2012 19:51 GMT
#363
On December 08 2012 03:58 Melliflue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 13:23 monk. wrote:
On December 07 2012 13:06 gullberg wrote:
On December 07 2012 13:00 TommyP wrote:
Why is BaBy 8 points? He's not nearly as good as TaeJa and his team will never win.

I think it's because BaBy's the ace of T8.

The points are not necessarily directly based on how good a player is, but rather on how many points a player will score under the system. Baby one of T8's few ace's while Taeja has a lot of competition. Also, Taeja will probably be traveling more and is already guaranteed not to be playing his first match, which is 1/7th his point potential.

On December 07 2012 13:10 vesicular wrote:
Sang is not in the list of available players to draft. Why not?

aka Terminator

But in the week 1 matchups, Sang is down as zerg whereas Terminator is protoss (I thought). Did he switch races or is that a mistake in the OP?

It's a mistake in the OP, which is fixed now.

On December 08 2012 04:48 5c0rp10n wrote:
I think its a really nice idea and i will participate! But why didnt you also do it for gsl?

How would this work for GSL? GSL isn't a teamleague. Also, the old bracket format of GSTL wasn't conducive to FPL.
Moderator
5c0rp10n
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany342 Posts
December 07 2012 19:56 GMT
#364
Ah yeah sorry, i meant gstl. Maybe they could have figured out a way.
| NaNiwa | CJ`herO |
Melliflue
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom1389 Posts
December 07 2012 20:27 GMT
#365
On December 08 2012 04:51 monk. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 03:58 Melliflue wrote:
On December 07 2012 13:23 monk. wrote:
On December 07 2012 13:06 gullberg wrote:
On December 07 2012 13:00 TommyP wrote:
Why is BaBy 8 points? He's not nearly as good as TaeJa and his team will never win.

I think it's because BaBy's the ace of T8.

The points are not necessarily directly based on how good a player is, but rather on how many points a player will score under the system. Baby one of T8's few ace's while Taeja has a lot of competition. Also, Taeja will probably be traveling more and is already guaranteed not to be playing his first match, which is 1/7th his point potential.

On December 07 2012 13:10 vesicular wrote:
Sang is not in the list of available players to draft. Why not?

aka Terminator

But in the week 1 matchups, Sang is down as zerg whereas Terminator is protoss (I thought). Did he switch races or is that a mistake in the OP?

It's a mistake in the OP, which is fixed now.

Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 04:48 5c0rp10n wrote:
I think its a really nice idea and i will participate! But why didnt you also do it for gsl?

How would this work for GSL? GSL isn't a teamleague. Also, the old bracket format of GSTL wasn't conducive to FPL.

I was confused about that Sang-Terminator thing, thanks monk.!
Regarding the GSTL fantasy idea, I think Wax mentioned earlier in the thread that he was waiting for the GSTL fantasy league but I also don't know if GSTL would work particularly well. It would not be worthwhile picking a good player on a bad team because he wouldn't play many matches. I also think the all-kill format doesn't lead easily to a fantasy league, because often a player won't get an appearance just because his team had already won, and un-like the proleague it isn't announced ahead of time who would play so it would be impossible to say for sure if a player would have been sent out.

Personally I'd like some kind of fantasy league with the GOM players because I never watched BW so most of these names I've only heard about since the transition and there are still many Kespa pros I don't recognise.
SUSUGAM
Profile Joined November 2007
United States177 Posts
December 07 2012 20:46 GMT
#366
All in on Shine beating Jaehoon week 1.

Bisu captain of course.
bisufanboi049
Kraidio
Profile Joined May 2011
China133 Posts
December 07 2012 20:47 GMT
#367
Alright Leta, you better justify my blind faith in you with more than your awesome back-flips.
A man does what he must — in spite of personal consequences, in spite of obstacles and dangers, and pressures — and that is the basis of all human morality.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 12:30:52
December 07 2012 20:55 GMT
#368
First time doing this PL stuff. I'm going with the mindset of taking players that I could support in the future.

Team : [image loading]Woongjin Stars - 3p

I didn't want to go anywhere near Rain's family, nor did I think that EG-TL would crush face like TL writers expect them to. So among the rest, I had to choose between Woongjin, Samsung and STX. Even though Khan was a finalist last season, they have the team with the least impressive individual results so far and they cost 4 instead of 3 for the two other so it was eliminate there. Soul have the best individual players on paper ((T)Bogus and (T)Last) but the mastery Stars showed in the first round of the last PL made me fan. 2 of their players qualified for Code A, (T)sin doing it against zergs including someone named Vampire, aka Sniper's clone; while 3 of them also reach the finals ((P)free, (P)BisAnG, (Z)ZerO). Not to mention (P)sHy and (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey were in Code S. This team has tremendous potential with a whole bunch of youngsters.

Captain : (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey - 8p

Players :
  • (T)Bbyong - 4p
  • (Z)ZerO - 4p
  • (P)Wooki - 3p
  • (P)JangBi - 5p
  • (T)hOn_sin - 3p

Among the players that were in Code S this season and who went down to Code A, (T)Bbyong is the cheapest (4p) and the fact that he will likely share ace matches with Effort which makes him a wise pick. Then I wanted another reliable player for a decent price a protoss would have been best but none were that impressive for 4p. (Z)ZerO and (Z)Shine both fill that spot but I couldn't decide yet.

After that I wished to pick 2 protosses because in Bo1, those are always a good thing to have so one under 3p among {(P)BisAnG,(P)free,(P)Wooki} and one over 5p among {(P)Trap (P)Stork,(P)Flying,(P)JangBi} was a good move for me. I believe BisAnG is the best player among the 1p players, his ability to reach Code B finals twice in a row (losing to win-hungry San in the last one) tells me that, however I don't think he is ranked that highly in his team and he shouldn't see that much playing time yet. As such I picked a combination that was likely to play often and which one of them will do well : [Wooki,JangBi].

Lastly I wanted a terran but they are either WAY too costly for what they are {(T)Bogus, (T)Last, (T)Flash, (T)BaBy} or their level is quite unknown like {(T)PuMa, (T)ThorZaIN, (T)hOn_sin, (T)Classic}. I was determined to pick of the last group and decided to go for (T)hOn_sin just because he his almost guaranteed to win his game against a totally unknown player who will be hard pressed to cheese on a map like Arkanoid.

Anti - team :
  • (P)BeSt - 6p
  • (T)sKyHigh - 4p
  • (Z)Zenio - 3p

I am not sure BeSt will have a bad season/day but in the bigger scheme of things, I have to avoid picking against teams that I think could win in the end and he weights quite a few points in a team where he will end up behind Rain all the freaking time anf if Bisu comes back well, he can almost kiss his spot good bye. (T)sKyHigh looks like an overrated player in a team that won more on BW than on SC2 last time and (Z)Zenio has been slumping for a while and with the recruitment of Jaedong, he will go after him in the line-up
JusticeX
Profile Joined October 2012
18 Posts
December 07 2012 20:56 GMT
#369
It's funny how I ended up picking Bisu on my Anti-team but SKT to win it all lol. Have a bad feeling I'm going to regret choosing Bisu, Stork, Thorzain as anti-team. Stats looks to be a good pick from the comments flying around, but I just can't see myself dropping Fantasy with Boxer teaching him everything.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26224 Posts
December 07 2012 20:58 GMT
#370
On December 08 2012 04:14 Bibbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 04:01 Killer Instinct wrote:
I have a feeling that (P)Bisu is gonna screw up every anti-team...

It's really weird. I could understand if he cost a lot of points, then it would kinda make sense to stick him on the anti-team given his kinda poor performance. But for only 4 points, it feels like a huge risk for not that much reward. >_>

Exactly! He's overinflated based on his sc2 results, but undervalued IMO if he starts to harness his potential. I'm seeing Zenio on a lot of anti- teams but I think he can still spring some surprises.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
December 07 2012 21:14 GMT
#371
Why can't i select Hudadak?
Melliflue
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom1389 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 21:18:05
December 07 2012 21:17 GMT
#372
On December 08 2012 05:58 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 04:14 Bibbit wrote:
On December 08 2012 04:01 Killer Instinct wrote:
I have a feeling that (P)Bisu is gonna screw up every anti-team...

It's really weird. I could understand if he cost a lot of points, then it would kinda make sense to stick him on the anti-team given his kinda poor performance. But for only 4 points, it feels like a huge risk for not that much reward. >_>

Exactly! He's overinflated based on his sc2 results, but undervalued IMO if he starts to harness his potential. I'm seeing Zenio on a lot of anti- teams but I think he can still spring some surprises.

I'm also surprised by how many people are picking Zenio. He's on EG-TL who are very strong so I think Zenio will often earn a point just because EG-TL won, it doesn't matter how well he did or even if he played. I guess 1 point isn't a lot, but he also has the advantage of having spent much longer playing SC2 than anybody he gets matched up against so he could pick up a win now and then. I suppose people expect him to lose against Flash and may be planning to change for the next week.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
December 07 2012 21:23 GMT
#373
On December 08 2012 05:56 JusticeX wrote:
It's funny how I ended up picking Bisu on my Anti-team but SKT to win it all lol. Have a bad feeling I'm going to regret choosing Bisu, Stork, Thorzain as anti-team. Stats looks to be a good pick from the comments flying around, but I just can't see myself dropping Fantasy with Boxer teaching him everything.

Stork on an antiteam I.I

Never thought I would see anything like this.

The heart's eternal vow
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
December 07 2012 21:27 GMT
#374
On December 08 2012 05:55 Otolia wrote:
First time doing this PL stuff. I'm going with the mindset of taking players that I could support in the future.

Team : [image loading]Woongjin Stars - 3p

I didn't want to go anywhere near Rain's family, nor did I think that EG-TL would crush face like TL writers expect them to. So among the rest, I had to choose between Woongjin, Samsung and STX. Even though Khan was a finalist last season, they have the team with the least impressive individual results so far and they cost 4 instead of 3 for the two other so it was eliminate there. Soul have the best individual players on paper ((T)Bogus and (T)Last) but the mastery Stars showed in the first round of the last PL made me fan. 2 of their players qualified for Code A, (T)sin doing it against zergs including someone named Vampire, aka Sniper's clone; while 3 of them also reach the finals ((P)free, (P)BisAnG, (Z)ZerO). Not to mention (P)sHy and (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey were in Code S. This team has tremendous potential with a whole bunch of youngsters.

Captain : (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey - 8p

Players :
  • (T)Bbyong - 4p
  • (Z)ZerO - 4p
  • (P)Wooki - 3p
  • (P)JangBi - 5p
  • (T)hOn_sin - 3p

Among the players that were in Code S this season and who went down to Code A, (T)Bbyong is the cheapest (4p) and the fact that he will likely share ace matches with Effort which makes him a wise pick. Then I wanted another reliable player for a decent price a protoss would have been best but none were that impressive for 4p. (Z)ZerO and (Z)Shine both fill that spot but I couldn't decide yet.

After that I wished to pick 2 protosses because in Bo1, those are always a good thing to have so one under 3p among {(P)BisAnG,(P)free,(P)Wooki} and one over 5p among {(P)Trap (P)Stork,(P)Flying,(P)JangBi} was a good move for me. I believe BisAnG is the best player among the 1p players, his ability to reach Code B finals twice in a row (losing to win-hungry San in the last one) tells me that, however I don't think he is ranked that highly in his team and he shouldn't see that much playing time yet. As such I picked a combination that was likely to play often and which one of them will do well : [Wooki,JangBi].

Lastly I wanted a terran but they are WAY too costly for what they are {(T)Bogus, (T)Last, (T)Flash, (T)BaBy} or their level is quite unknown like {(T)PuMa, (T)ThorZaIN, (T)hOn_sin, (T)Classic}. I was determined to pick of the last group and decided to go for (T)hOn_sin just because he his almost guaranteed to win his game against a totally unknown player who will be hard pressed to cheese on a map like Arkanoid.

Anti - team :
  • (P)BeSt - 6p
  • (T)sKyHigh - 4p
  • (Z)Zenio - 3p

I am not sure BeSt will have a bad season/day but in the bigger scheme of things, I have to avoid picking against teams that I think could win in the end and he weights quite a few points in a team where he will end up behind Rain all the freaking time anf if Bisu comes back well, he can almost kiss his spot good bye. (T)sKyHigh looks like an overrated player and (Z)Zenio has been slumping for a while.


Woow.

You are like me, if I would have given some extra time for myself to wager some players, points, to make a wise(r) decision.
The heart's eternal vow
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
December 07 2012 21:28 GMT
#375
Hyuk for 1 point,steal of the century hue hue hue
Cackle™
JusticeX
Profile Joined October 2012
18 Posts
December 07 2012 21:35 GMT
#376
On December 08 2012 06:23 PVJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 05:56 JusticeX wrote:
It's funny how I ended up picking Bisu on my Anti-team but SKT to win it all lol. Have a bad feeling I'm going to regret choosing Bisu, Stork, Thorzain as anti-team. Stats looks to be a good pick from the comments flying around, but I just can't see myself dropping Fantasy with Boxer teaching him everything.

Stork on an antiteam I.I

Never thought I would see anything like this.



I never thought I'd put the king of silver on my anti-team, but from the last time I saw him, he isn't doing so hot in SC2. Or did I miss some of his games and he started wtfpwning? lol. 6 points is hard to pass up.
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
December 07 2012 22:00 GMT
#377
On December 08 2012 06:14 Thrill wrote:
Why can't i select Hudadak?

who?
Moderator
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
December 07 2012 22:02 GMT
#378
On December 08 2012 07:00 monk. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 06:14 Thrill wrote:
Why can't i select Hudadak?

who?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Hudadak

I want him for one point. See great things in his future.
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 22:07:40
December 07 2012 22:06 GMT
#379
On December 08 2012 07:02 Thrill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 07:00 monk. wrote:
On December 08 2012 06:14 Thrill wrote:
Why can't i select Hudadak?

who?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Hudadak

I want him for one point. See great things in his future.

He wasn't on the official roster I consulted:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=386433

Same thing with the last unknown player on EG-TL.
Moderator
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 22:07:02
December 07 2012 22:06 GMT
#380
double post
Moderator
Prev 1 17 18 19 20 21 95 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RotterdaM Event
17:30
Mini Rotti Monday
GgMaChine vs sebesdesLIVE!
RotterdaM953
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 953
PiGStarcraft229
ProTech143
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 245
Dewaltoss 167
BeSt 98
ggaemo 33
NaDa 32
Dota 2
febbydoto16
League of Legends
C9.Mang0217
Counter-Strike
fl0m1467
Super Smash Bros
PPMD53
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu628
Other Games
Grubby5627
tarik_tv4881
FrodaN1919
B2W.Neo227
ZombieGrub38
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 69
• musti20045 26
• Adnapsc2 13
• Reevou 9
• davetesta6
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 28
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie5599
• Shiphtur304
Upcoming Events
OSC
13h 25m
Solar vs MaxPax
ByuN vs Krystianer
Spirit vs TBD
OSC
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
OSC
4 days
OSC
4 days
IPSL
4 days
Dewalt vs Bonyth
OSC
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Patches Events
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W2
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.