On December 06 2012 22:40 ssg wrote: EG and TL should throw a fucking fit
THIS. Two foreigner teams dependent in many ways on a foreigner fan base to support themselves are now playing in a league that much less accessible to said fans.
After lurking about on TL for 5-6 years now, I've noticed a few recurring themes, one of which is that anything Kespa touches leads to disappointment and needless frustration.
And kudos to the guy asking about contracts in Korea. Are there no lawyers in E-Sports?
Totally agree. Come on TL and EG, fight this Kespa behavior
Best players get the most vierwers no matter the region = fact
Nope.
Idra vs Stephano or Life vs Leenock, which showmatch would get more viewers?
This is a pointless argument.
Sounds like a very good argument to me.
The arguments pointless. Flash vs Jaedong or Idra vs Stephano?
That's funny because you are only further proving my point. Flash and Jaedong are not as good as Leenock/Life either, but their showmatch would get a lot more interest. There are other factors at play besides being the best player.
It's contradictory actually. Because Stephano is the best foreigner which in other words is a best player.
I don't get KeSPA. First they lean Jaedong AND let EGTL take place in the most prestigious team league ever. And now this? Like whaaaaaaaaat? I don't get it.
Best players get the most vierwers no matter the region = fact
Nope.
Idra vs Stephano or Life vs Leenock, which showmatch would get more viewers?
This is a pointless argument.
Sounds like a very good argument to me.
The arguments pointless. Flash vs Jaedong or Idra vs Stephano?
That's funny because you are only further proving my point. Flash and Jaedong are not as good as Leenock/Life either, but their showmatch would get a lot more interest. There are other factors at play besides being the best player.
It's contradictory actually. Because Stephano is the best foreigner which in other words is a best player.
I have feeling we are arguing two different things, so I'm just gonna drop it.
On December 06 2012 23:14 Pimpmuckl wrote: I don't get KeSPA. First they lean Jaedong AND let EGTL take place in the most prestigious team league ever. And now this? Like whaaaaaaaaat? I don't get it.
It's KeSPA. If there's anything to learn about them, it's that they don't give a shit about anything except their struggle to dominate the world, starting with eSports in korea.
On December 06 2012 23:14 Pimpmuckl wrote: I don't get KeSPA. First they lean Jaedong AND let EGTL take place in the most prestigious team league ever. And now this? Like whaaaaaaaaat? I don't get it.
Correction: in the most BW prestigious team league. Cannot say this yet for SC2.
Best players get the most vierwers no matter the region = fact
Nope.
Idra vs Stephano or Life vs Leenock, which showmatch would get more viewers?
This is a pointless argument.
Sounds like a very good argument to me.
The arguments pointless. Flash vs Jaedong or Idra vs Stephano?
That's funny because you are only further proving my point. Flash and Jaedong are not as good as Leenock/Life either, but their showmatch would get a lot more interest. There are other factors at play besides being the best player.
It's contradictory actually. Because Stephano is the best foreigner which in other words is a best player.
I have feeling we are arguing two different things, so I'm just gonna drop it.
Well, I was just trolling you hah. I was waiting for you to bring up one name and one name only. That name being Destiny. He's the quintessential of no skill and high viewer count.
In my opinion this is actually a good thing. Kespa saves a large amount of money by not paying overpaid and mostly incompetent western casters. I normally watch any tournament with sound off to prevent myself from brain damage by listening to completely wrong assessments from Day9 and other self-centered casters. If there is one thing the Esports community should stop it's throwing money at casters for basically doing nothing but throwing their mostly uneducated opinion at the game.
Many progamers have stated that it's a far better job to be a caster and if we change that more money can go to the players enforcing a stronger competition.
On December 06 2012 23:07 Leetley wrote: Whatever. More important thing is that there is SOME stream that I can watch the games from.
This. I don't really care either if there's no english casters. I actually enjoy korean casting a lot so I'm ok as far as I can see all the games in ok stream quality.
i will just say most of this site went quite a long time without any english broadcast for osl, msl, and proleague for bw. its not the end of the world folks.
i will also say that i will always prefer korean casters. they provide so much excitement for a match, there are only a handful of english casters that can compare and none of those select few have said anything about being contact by kespa anyways.
On December 06 2012 23:14 Pimpmuckl wrote: I don't get KeSPA. First they lean Jaedong AND let EGTL take place in the most prestigious team league ever. And now this? Like whaaaaaaaaat? I don't get it.
Correction: in the most BW prestigious team league. Cannot say this yet for SC2.
Well they did try that retarded stunt with banning their players from GSL before being forced out of it by ESF boycotts and community pressure.
Not exactly surprising, I mean the fact that egtl being in a teamleague is a big deal show how fucked up their system is. Shouldn't any team get a chance to qualify?
On December 06 2012 23:14 Pimpmuckl wrote: I don't get KeSPA. First they lean Jaedong AND let EGTL take place in the most prestigious team league ever. And now this? Like whaaaaaaaaat? I don't get it.
It's KeSPA. If there's anything to learn about them, it's that they don't give a shit about anything except their struggle to dominate the world, starting with eSports in korea.
Narf! So, if Kespa is The Brain who always fails at taking over the world, who is Pinky?
Anyway, not a good move of Kespa, sucks for OGN and Doa/Moletrap, sucks for us, hope it gets sorted out soon and hope that someone (Blizaard?) will try to regulate Kespa a bit...
On December 06 2012 23:14 Pimpmuckl wrote: I don't get KeSPA. First they lean Jaedong AND let EGTL take place in the most prestigious team league ever. And now this? Like whaaaaaaaaat? I don't get it.
It's KeSPA. If there's anything to learn about them, it's that they don't give a shit about anything except their struggle to dominate the world, starting with eSports in korea.
Well, Kespa did "create and solidify" esports in Korea. According to the Wikipedia page Kespa manages a total of 25 different games.
EPT
