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Proleague 2012-13 Week 1 Entries + Rosters - Page 15

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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
December 06 2012 14:49 GMT
#281
LETA IS PROTOSS?
The Bomber boy
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
December 06 2012 14:54 GMT
#282
On December 06 2012 21:22 Joestar wrote:
Having never followed BW, why do people who root for a particular team root for that team?

I used to root for TSL in the GSL because I really liked their line-up and coach.


Because.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50713 Posts
December 06 2012 15:01 GMT
#283
On December 06 2012 23:54 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 21:22 Joestar wrote:
Having never followed BW, why do people who root for a particular team root for that team?

I used to root for TSL in the GSL because I really liked their line-up and coach.


Because.


sorry bro he decided on KT.

go back from whence you came supporter of the evil empire.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
xTofuu
Profile Joined November 2009
United States18 Posts
December 06 2012 15:28 GMT
#284
how do we watch these games?
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 16:14:57
December 06 2012 15:36 GMT
#285
On December 07 2012 00:28 xTofuu wrote:
how do we watch these games?


No English OGN broadcast != No English broadcast

Apparently MLG is doing the English cast.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
December 06 2012 15:40 GMT
#286
On December 07 2012 00:01 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 23:54 Talin wrote:
On December 06 2012 21:22 Joestar wrote:
Having never followed BW, why do people who root for a particular team root for that team?

I used to root for TSL in the GSL because I really liked their line-up and coach.


Because.


sorry bro he decided on KT.

go back from whence you came supporter of the evil empire.


I'm saving all my best lines for when KT becomes the shame of Proleague and Korea after losing to a bunch of foreign mercenaries.
Jauny
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada5 Posts
December 06 2012 16:13 GMT
#287
no stephano :O
HappyTimePANDA
Profile Joined March 2012
United States167 Posts
December 06 2012 17:09 GMT
#288
Seems kind of pointless to team up and enter when most of the actually good players aren't going to be playing (Taeja, Stephano, Hero). Both teams should cut the B level players (AKA the majority) and try for more Koreans.
Violet | Leenock | Life | Symbol | Jaedong | DRG
InsidiA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 17:15:54
December 06 2012 17:15 GMT
#289
Rain vs Bogus oh mah gerd
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Zallkar
Profile Joined June 2010
United States449 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 18:49:02
December 06 2012 18:37 GMT
#290
So I guess match fixing doesn't exist anymore...

Hey how about adding in some fantasy proleague? Would be pretty fun!

Sigh. I guess team8 has taken the spiritual role of Airforce Ace.
Understand.
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
December 06 2012 19:00 GMT
#291
So Leta's confirmed Protoss? :O

I suppose its nice given that Horang2 and Snow switched to terran and Movie is gone altogether. CJ with so many race switches!
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
December 06 2012 19:35 GMT
#292
On December 06 2012 14:04 Fionn wrote:
Also pretty much every member of T8 changed their ID to random shit like Argo and Salvage.

Wanted to ask about this in the morning, forgot it until now -.-

So, where can we check what are the new handles?
The heart's eternal vow
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 19:42:50
December 06 2012 19:42 GMT
#293
I hope Bisu regains his passion on stage, making millions of fans melting away in front of their streams
The heart's eternal vow
Bareleon
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
371 Posts
December 06 2012 20:16 GMT
#294
On December 07 2012 04:42 PVJ wrote:
I hope Bisu regains his passion on stage, making millions of fans melting away in front of their streams


How do you know he was losing passion?
InstantKarma
Profile Joined November 2010
United States205 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 20:48:49
December 06 2012 20:48 GMT
#295
EG-TL will have a huge disadvantage in that their opponents will have tons of vods to study. The KESPA coaches will have them figured out so much they'll find out what EG-TL had for breakfast if they have to.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 20:55:15
December 06 2012 20:51 GMT
#296
I only have one question... who the hell is (Z)fOKINS and how did that name get past kespa

also it would be really cool to see penguin play a live game
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
December 06 2012 20:53 GMT
#297
On December 07 2012 05:16 Bareleon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 04:42 PVJ wrote:
I hope Bisu regains his passion on stage, making millions of fans melting away in front of their streams


How do you know he was losing passion?


I'm sure a lot of KeSPA players lost their passion after they switched to SC2.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 06 2012 20:57 GMT
#298
I am also another person who does not know a lot about the kespa teams since i never watched pro BW. is there any way someone could give me like a general comparison to relate a kespa team to an esf team (for example, skt is like? ) or are the teams too different to do that? Im not sure who to cheer for besides EG-TL because i only know the really obvious kespa players ^^
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
December 06 2012 20:57 GMT
#299
On December 07 2012 05:53 zyzq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 05:16 Bareleon wrote:
On December 07 2012 04:42 PVJ wrote:
I hope Bisu regains his passion on stage, making millions of fans melting away in front of their streams


How do you know he was losing passion?


I'm sure a lot of KeSPA players lost their passion after they switched to SC2.


and alot of older kespa players also said they regained their passion like free.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 21:22:11
December 06 2012 21:17 GMT
#300
On December 07 2012 05:57 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I am also another person who does not know a lot about the kespa teams since i never watched pro BW. is there any way someone could give me like a general comparison to relate a kespa team to an esf team (for example, skt is like? ) or are the teams too different to do that? Im not sure who to cheer for besides EG-TL because i only know the really obvious kespa players ^^


SKT = Slayers + IM or startale, take your pick, oldest most achieving and iconic in terms of team leagues, also has star players that can go deep in individual leagues in fantasy / bisu (buy from MBC Game hero) / best.

KT = rival to SKT, take your pick of Startale / IM rivalries, or EG. Has traditionally had really great rosters and player (Nada, yellow, Nal_ra, Reach) buys but always failed to capture league wins or individual league wins (KT academy curse) until flash came through.

MBC Game Hero = (take your pick of teams that lost star players) Had alot of potential when they had both Sea, Light, and Bisu at one point, but light and bisu got bought out to other teams and they never captured another team league win again. Now defunct

Woongjin Stars = (Acer?) Strong Zergs traditionally in Zero / Soulkey and strong TvZ player light who was a buy from MBC Game Hero, they also had decent protoss' in free, their terran line is usually regarded as an in-joke because they were terrible. This is contrasted with:

Samsung Khan = (Hard to say which team has the strongest protoss' since there's only been 2 GSL protoss champions in SC2) Strong protoss' traditionally in Stork / Jangbi with good rookie terran reality, Stork and Jangbi are both strong contenders for individual leagues.

CJ Entus = (IM in team league) has extremely "deep" line up with the most consistent A level players in Leta, Skyhigh, Effort, Movie, etc who are all championship material, but never manages to pull through in team leagues. CJ also has exception zergs in Effort / Savior that has a rivalry with Woongjin for strongest individual zergs.

Hwaseung OZ = I guess TL since Taeja / hero used to carry them? Need I say more?, now defunct.

STX Soul = Take your pick of underdog team. You would be hard pressed to find fans of STX, their most consistent player now is Bogus and some promising rookies in Mini and couple of others.

WemadeFox = Used to house some notable players such as Roro, Mind, Rock and is one of the older teams, but is now defunct.

Airforce Ace = There isn't a comparable example. Special team for retiring players and people going through the military term requirements in Korea, made by boxer. Hosted alot of past famous players like Iris, Midas, firebathero, etc. Now defunct.

Team 8 = Used to be the dream team and now all hopes are gone, so I guess slayers in SC2 up to dissolving? The merger between all the star players from WemadeFox, MBCGame Hero, and Hwaseung OZ. Had Sea / Jaedong / Baby / Jaehoon. But now is in dire straits.

Usually the team leagues are tiered off like this:

SKT / KT + CJ = tier 1 / 1.5
Khan / Stars = tier 2
Hero / OZ / Soul / Fox = tier 2.5
Airforce Ace = tier 3 but everyone loves ace.

and team 8 i dont even know.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
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