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nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
February 21 2013 13:03 GMT
#1941
Hopefully MC and/or Taeja can save us from ZvZvZs in the rest of this GSL.
Koesader
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands424 Posts
February 21 2013 13:05 GMT
#1942
On February 21 2013 22:03 nomyx wrote:
Hopefully MC and/or Taeja can save us from ZvZvZs in the rest of this GSL.

Haha nice timing for the revival of this thread. Hopefully TaeJa brings his summerTvZ tomorrow.
Liquid'TaeJa - Grubby - MVPMarineKing - Liquid'Ret - AxCranK - RedBull.Bomber ~~~ Are You Ready For Bombing?
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-21 13:45:34
February 21 2013 13:09 GMT
#1943
On February 21 2013 22:05 Koesader wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 22:03 nomyx wrote:
Hopefully MC and/or Taeja can save us from ZvZvZs in the rest of this GSL.

Haha nice timing for the revival of this thread. Hopefully TaeJa brings his summerTvZ tomorrow.


It's just not the same without this thread on the sidebar.

Either way, it is kinda cool. Hyping up zergs as the bad guys and Taeja / MC as the saviors of the GSL during the last wings of liberty GSL.

Will zerg dominate the ro4 / this GSL similar to the past 2 GSL and blizz cup?

Will Taeja rise up to his pre-injury levels and beyond and win the last WoL GSL and put a stop to the zerg menance?

or will MC win the last Wings of Liberty GSL, bringing his total GSL wins up to 3, 75% of the protoss wins of GSL.
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
February 21 2013 13:12 GMT
#1944
Well, zerg domination will end very very soon, so cut them some slack for their efforts at least in WoL.
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
February 21 2013 13:23 GMT
#1945
I never liked how the vast majority of the community blames the players rather than the people in charge of balance. I would not play any other race even if zerg was the weakest race by far.
Callynn
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands917 Posts
February 21 2013 13:33 GMT
#1946
On February 21 2013 22:23 Ryps wrote:
I never liked how the vast majority of the community blames the players rather than the people in charge of balance. I would not play any other race even if zerg was the weakest race by far.


Me neither, I would then simply not play the game at all
Comparing BW with SCII is like comparing a beautiful three-master sailing ship with a modern battlecruiser. Both are beautiful in their own way, both perform the same task, but they are worlds apart in how they are built and how they are steered.
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
February 21 2013 13:34 GMT
#1947
On February 21 2013 22:23 Ryps wrote:
I never liked how the vast majority of the community blames the players rather than the people in charge of balance. I would not play any other race even if zerg was the weakest race by far.

The replies like "The X race was OP before, so it's okay that Zerg is OP now" are the most obvious reason.
Gamer_Girl
Profile Joined February 2013
14 Posts
February 21 2013 13:41 GMT
#1948
Wow this post is so accurate and on the money. I don't think Blizzard intentionally dumbed down the game for the foreigners, I believe they did it to please the absolute noobs and just tack on the "pro" element as an afterthought.

This is why SC2 is loosing its audience so much and went from 100k views in tournaments or about 50k on average to only about 20k average now and at most up to 40k.

So the numbers shows the picture perfectly and that is that SC2 is designed way too terribly.
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
February 21 2013 13:42 GMT
#1949
On February 21 2013 22:09 nomyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 22:05 Koesader wrote:
On February 21 2013 22:03 nomyx wrote:
Hopefully MC and/or Taeja can save us from ZvZvZs in the rest of this GSL.

Haha nice timing for the revival of this thread. Hopefully TaeJa brings his summerTvZ tomorrow.


It's just not the same without this thread on the sidebar.

Either way, it is kinda cool. Hyping up zergs as the bad guys and Taeja / MC as the saviors of the GSL during the last wings of liberty GSL.

Will zerg dominate the ro4 / this GSL similar to the past 2 GSL and blizz cup?

Will Taeja rise up to his pre-injury levels and beyond and win the last WoL GSL and put a stop to the zerg menance?

or will MC win the last Wings of Liberty GSL, bringing his total GSL wins up to 3, 60% of the protoss wins of GSL.


MC, MC, Seed, MC? 75%? who did I forget
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 21 2013 13:44 GMT
#1950
On February 21 2013 22:34 DidYuhim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 22:23 Ryps wrote:
I never liked how the vast majority of the community blames the players rather than the people in charge of balance. I would not play any other race even if zerg was the weakest race by far.

The replies like "The X race was OP before, so it's okay that Zerg is OP now" are the most obvious reason.


The funny thing is that this statement will be used once HoTS is out (assuming no major balance changes) and zergs start to struggle.
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-21 13:49:54
February 21 2013 13:45 GMT
#1951
On February 21 2013 22:42 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 22:09 nomyx wrote:
On February 21 2013 22:05 Koesader wrote:
On February 21 2013 22:03 nomyx wrote:
Hopefully MC and/or Taeja can save us from ZvZvZs in the rest of this GSL.

Haha nice timing for the revival of this thread. Hopefully TaeJa brings his summerTvZ tomorrow.


It's just not the same without this thread on the sidebar.

Either way, it is kinda cool. Hyping up zergs as the bad guys and Taeja / MC as the saviors of the GSL during the last wings of liberty GSL.

Will zerg dominate the ro4 / this GSL similar to the past 2 GSL and blizz cup?

Will Taeja rise up to his pre-injury levels and beyond and win the last WoL GSL and put a stop to the zerg menance?

or will MC win the last Wings of Liberty GSL, bringing his total GSL wins up to 3, 60% of the protoss wins of GSL.


MC, MC, Seed, MC? 75%? who did I forget


Oops, sorry. I accidentally counted Puzzle's code A win. Thought it was code s.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
February 21 2013 13:54 GMT
#1952
On February 21 2013 22:44 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 22:34 DidYuhim wrote:
On February 21 2013 22:23 Ryps wrote:
I never liked how the vast majority of the community blames the players rather than the people in charge of balance. I would not play any other race even if zerg was the weakest race by far.

The replies like "The X race was OP before, so it's okay that Zerg is OP now" are the most obvious reason.


The funny thing is that this statement will be used once HoTS is out (assuming no major balance changes) and zergs start to struggle.


Ah no... Swarm Host hydra Viper is going to dominate so hard that you guys WISH the Infestors still had 9range NP instead!
SiroKO
Profile Joined February 2012
France721 Posts
February 21 2013 14:16 GMT
#1953
On February 21 2013 22:44 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 22:34 DidYuhim wrote:
On February 21 2013 22:23 Ryps wrote:
I never liked how the vast majority of the community blames the players rather than the people in charge of balance. I would not play any other race even if zerg was the weakest race by far.

The replies like "The X race was OP before, so it's okay that Zerg is OP now" are the most obvious reason.


The funny thing is that this statement will be used once HoTS is out (assuming no major balance changes) and zergs start to struggle.


Don't fall into Zerg lies once again.
HoTS ZvP is already in Zerg favor with good swarmhosts usage.
Our envy always last longer than the happiness of those we envy
Neino
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway295 Posts
February 21 2013 14:17 GMT
#1954
On February 21 2013 22:45 nomyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 22:42 liberate71 wrote:
On February 21 2013 22:09 nomyx wrote:
On February 21 2013 22:05 Koesader wrote:
On February 21 2013 22:03 nomyx wrote:
Hopefully MC and/or Taeja can save us from ZvZvZs in the rest of this GSL.

Haha nice timing for the revival of this thread. Hopefully TaeJa brings his summerTvZ tomorrow.


It's just not the same without this thread on the sidebar.

Either way, it is kinda cool. Hyping up zergs as the bad guys and Taeja / MC as the saviors of the GSL during the last wings of liberty GSL.

Will zerg dominate the ro4 / this GSL similar to the past 2 GSL and blizz cup?

Will Taeja rise up to his pre-injury levels and beyond and win the last WoL GSL and put a stop to the zerg menance?

or will MC win the last Wings of Liberty GSL, bringing his total GSL wins up to 3, 60% of the protoss wins of GSL.


MC, MC, Seed, MC? 75%? who did I forget


Oops, sorry. I accidentally counted Puzzle's code A win. Thought it was code s.


Aaaaahhhh, you confused me so much with the editing, haha
Thought you said 75% first, the second guy was disagreeing with it being 75, and you then giving in saying that it was indeed not 75%..

Gotta start reading the quote, not just the original one..
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
February 21 2013 14:19 GMT
#1955
Really good work!
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 21 2013 14:20 GMT
#1956
On February 21 2013 23:16 SiroKO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 22:44 vthree wrote:
On February 21 2013 22:34 DidYuhim wrote:
On February 21 2013 22:23 Ryps wrote:
I never liked how the vast majority of the community blames the players rather than the people in charge of balance. I would not play any other race even if zerg was the weakest race by far.

The replies like "The X race was OP before, so it's okay that Zerg is OP now" are the most obvious reason.


The funny thing is that this statement will be used once HoTS is out (assuming no major balance changes) and zergs start to struggle.


Don't fall into Zerg lies once again.
HoTS ZvP is already in Zerg favor with good swarmhosts usage.


Well, at least the current tournament results (mostly qualifiers) have shown the Zs are weaker. Of course, we will have to see how the meta develops.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 21 2013 14:21 GMT
#1957
On February 21 2013 22:54 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 22:44 vthree wrote:
On February 21 2013 22:34 DidYuhim wrote:
On February 21 2013 22:23 Ryps wrote:
I never liked how the vast majority of the community blames the players rather than the people in charge of balance. I would not play any other race even if zerg was the weakest race by far.

The replies like "The X race was OP before, so it's okay that Zerg is OP now" are the most obvious reason.


The funny thing is that this statement will be used once HoTS is out (assuming no major balance changes) and zergs start to struggle.


Ah no... Swarm Host hydra Viper is going to dominate so hard that you guys WISH the Infestors still had 9range NP instead!


The problem will be 'getting' to swarm host hydra viper. Remember BL/infestor were just as strong in 2011, but how many zergs got there?
Breach_hu
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary2431 Posts
February 21 2013 14:41 GMT
#1958
On February 21 2013 23:21 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 22:54 Big J wrote:
On February 21 2013 22:44 vthree wrote:
On February 21 2013 22:34 DidYuhim wrote:
On February 21 2013 22:23 Ryps wrote:
I never liked how the vast majority of the community blames the players rather than the people in charge of balance. I would not play any other race even if zerg was the weakest race by far.

The replies like "The X race was OP before, so it's okay that Zerg is OP now" are the most obvious reason.


The funny thing is that this statement will be used once HoTS is out (assuming no major balance changes) and zergs start to struggle.


Ah no... Swarm Host hydra Viper is going to dominate so hard that you guys WISH the Infestors still had 9range NP instead!


The problem will be 'getting' to swarm host hydra viper. Remember BL/infestor were just as strong in 2011, but how many zergs got there?


They can still get there, just they have to drop the bullshit attitude to get 70drones on 3base at the 8min mark.
Give thanks and praise!
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 21 2013 14:52 GMT
#1959
On February 21 2013 23:41 Breach_hu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 23:21 vthree wrote:
On February 21 2013 22:54 Big J wrote:
On February 21 2013 22:44 vthree wrote:
On February 21 2013 22:34 DidYuhim wrote:
On February 21 2013 22:23 Ryps wrote:
I never liked how the vast majority of the community blames the players rather than the people in charge of balance. I would not play any other race even if zerg was the weakest race by far.

The replies like "The X race was OP before, so it's okay that Zerg is OP now" are the most obvious reason.


The funny thing is that this statement will be used once HoTS is out (assuming no major balance changes) and zergs start to struggle.


Ah no... Swarm Host hydra Viper is going to dominate so hard that you guys WISH the Infestors still had 9range NP instead!


The problem will be 'getting' to swarm host hydra viper. Remember BL/infestor were just as strong in 2011, but how many zergs got there?


They can still get there, just they have to drop the bullshit attitude to get 70drones on 3base at the 8min mark.


Which already weakens zergs. At least in TvZ. TvZ has always been able keeping the Zerg Eco under control. It was just that towards the end of WoL, that became harder and harder to do. With HoTS, zergs have to play more defensive (ala 2011) or they just get crushed by timings.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
February 21 2013 14:54 GMT
#1960
On February 21 2013 23:41 Breach_hu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 23:21 vthree wrote:
On February 21 2013 22:54 Big J wrote:
On February 21 2013 22:44 vthree wrote:
On February 21 2013 22:34 DidYuhim wrote:
On February 21 2013 22:23 Ryps wrote:
I never liked how the vast majority of the community blames the players rather than the people in charge of balance. I would not play any other race even if zerg was the weakest race by far.

The replies like "The X race was OP before, so it's okay that Zerg is OP now" are the most obvious reason.


The funny thing is that this statement will be used once HoTS is out (assuming no major balance changes) and zergs start to struggle.


Ah no... Swarm Host hydra Viper is going to dominate so hard that you guys WISH the Infestors still had 9range NP instead!


The problem will be 'getting' to swarm host hydra viper. Remember BL/infestor were just as strong in 2011, but how many zergs got there?


They can still get there, just they have to drop the bullshit attitude to get 70drones on 3base at the 8min mark.


Meanwhile over at the Terrans side:
50SCVs+3mules of 3Orbitals, double upgrades going, full techpath acquired and ready to move out.
"Man, I wish I had those 70workers too. I'm only getting income from an equivalent of 62workers."
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