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Lings of Liberty: The Rise of the Patchzergs - Page 62

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NaEjeOn88
Profile Joined August 2011
United States134 Posts
December 05 2012 23:45 GMT
#1221
great post!!! very true in most parts I've never seen a game that was so clear cut offbalanced as starcraft2 with LINGS of liberty. Atleast blizzaRD is moving in the right direction now....
chadissilent
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1187 Posts
December 06 2012 00:09 GMT
#1222
On December 06 2012 08:45 NaEjeOn88 wrote:
great post!!! very true in most parts I've never seen a game that was so clear cut offbalanced as starcraft2 with LINGS of liberty. Atleast blizzaRD is moving in the right direction now....

The King has spoken.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27466 Posts
December 06 2012 00:50 GMT
#1223
Incidentally I'm not a DRG fanboy. The closest I come to being a fanboy is with HerO, Grubby or Polt

I just think DRG is a mechanics monster who, bar being strategically retarded should get gains from that.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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Glowinglight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States76 Posts
December 06 2012 01:10 GMT
#1224
"To summarize, Blizzard has deliberately designed SC2 over the past eighteen months so that foreigners can beat Koreans regularly, despite their general inferiority in skill."
Music to everyone terran's ear. Did a zerg just beat you? Don't worry it is not your fault a no skill zerg can beat you it is the way the game is designed to be.
gengka
Profile Joined September 2010
Malaysia461 Posts
December 06 2012 01:17 GMT
#1225
The Blizzard had heard your call my friend Ver, take a look at the latest HOTS patch!

Make Love Not War
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 01:22:09
December 06 2012 01:21 GMT
#1226
On December 06 2012 10:17 gengka wrote:
The Blizzard had heard your call my friend Ver, take a look at the latest HOTS patch!


I doubt Ver influenced Blizz's decisions in the most recent patch. Not because they're ignorant, they suck, etc., but because this was posted an hour before Ver posted:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=385868
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 06 2012 01:22 GMT
#1227
Very informed and thought provoking post. Clearly you put a lot of work into this and the evidence you bring up is cause for action from Blizzard and other prominent members within the community. I have but two complaints about the whole post but overall I agree with most of your main points.
1. Referring to all foreigners as "white" may be a little off of politically correct or even factually accurate. It also begs the question, if everyone else is white, Koreans are?? This essentially calls them yellow which is kinda racist
2. The Ryung vs Sniper pictures were a bit misleading. Sniper already had a huuuuge lead before the horribly cost inefficient fight he took on Daybreak with ultra/ling/infestor and the "phalanx" of tanks was two.
Besides that great post and I hope people who have the power to change things see this. FOR TERRAN! FOR ESPORTS!
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 01:28:13
December 06 2012 01:25 GMT
#1228
All those zergs in this thread that try to convince themselves that all of this is not true xD
Still haven't seen a post trying to refute any actual point of the article tho. (ho yes, there is some people that try to say that the "white theory" is dumb so certainly all the facts of the op are false).
Everyone who still watches sc2 knows all of this to be very accurate, except some zergs that still prefer to see their race winning than to play a good game.

The worse in all of this is that people still cry about losing to 4 hellions before queen patch, explaining they don't want it to be reverted because of that, forgetting that you only lost against 4 hellions if you were terribly greedy. But being greedy without possible consequence is a divine right of zergs players brainwashed by 2 years of Idra qq I guess. wE wAnT mAcRo gAmEz so let's be patched until we can macro without unit in 100% of the games ! People who still defend the queen patch is why we can't have nice things, or perhaps they weren't around when sc2 was actually enjoyable to watch, or perhaps they don't care as long as they see foreigner zergs winning vs korean terrans at every lan. This is payback for all those months of imba terrans beating zerg, am I right. This is deserved. And lets forget that 50/50, for most zergs, is when the matchup was "terribly imbalanced". Like Antiga nowadays ! That freaking 50/50 terran map.
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
December 06 2012 01:38 GMT
#1229
Troll?
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
QQKachoo
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States192 Posts
December 06 2012 02:02 GMT
#1230
Can't tell if this is a giant troll post or this guy is really serious about the "white theory".
@QKachoo
Jinky
Profile Joined January 2011
United States64 Posts
December 06 2012 02:13 GMT
#1231
I would have enjoyed a more neutral version of this write-up, but its bias and racism (in-game and out-of-game) bothers my stomach. Disgusting form, despite the good points it elucidates.
Aceace
Profile Joined June 2011
Turkey1305 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 02:15:40
December 06 2012 02:14 GMT
#1232
Its about racial distribution in starcraft

Blizzard trying to make 60:40 ratio between whiteman and Koreans.

This post includes full of sarcasm. Can't you see it?
Dün dündür, bugün bugündür. (Yesterday was yesterday, today is today)
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
December 06 2012 02:53 GMT
#1233
I just have one thing to say after this massive read...

Not the best timing to post this
+ Show Spoiler +
Fungal Growth: Is now a projectile. Speed of the projectile is 10. Range down to 8.
Infested Terrans no longer gain weapon and armor upgrades. Infested Terran egg health down to 70.
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
December 06 2012 02:56 GMT
#1234
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FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
December 06 2012 03:16 GMT
#1235
I think that the fundamental problem with Fungal lies in its mechanics. Preventing spells and ability usage is enough, no need to completely render the units immobile. Instead of immobilizing the units, applying something like 40-50% slow would do the trick imo. That way you can still chain fungal but at least it would require a bit skill to do it.
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 03:31:36
December 06 2012 03:18 GMT
#1236
It's an interesting read, but it is difficult to tell at certain parts if the author is serious and insane or just being satirical. There are a lot of good points (Zerg dominance is worldwide whereas Terran dominance was almost entirely exclusive to Korean Terrans), but the conspiracy stuff is pretty silly.

Obviously the ending plea is satire, but where exactly does what the author truly believes stop and the nonsense begin?

On December 06 2012 10:25 MrCon wrote:
Everyone who still watches sc2 knows all of this


"All of this" includes the conspiracy nonsense, so no, I disagree. Almost everything he says about game balance is true, and his statistics are interesting, but he starts to get into like "meta-conspiracy" levels of stupid when he claims Blizzard only nerfed Fungal way back when to throw people off of the trail of the conspiracy.

It could have been an amazing article (which is what I thought about 1/3 of the way through), but it is really just fairly mediocre.
WhatsInAName
Profile Joined November 2012
United States49 Posts
December 06 2012 03:55 GMT
#1237
So, which zergs are specifically patchzergs and which are not?
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27466 Posts
December 06 2012 03:57 GMT
#1238
On December 06 2012 12:55 WhatsInAName wrote:
So, which zergs are specifically patchzergs and which are not?

Don't have to name them.

Basically any Zerg who plays consistently terribly in a fundamental way that still can beat top players.

(Hint, Nerchio, Stephano and Scarlett are not patchzergs)
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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jackycattt
Profile Joined December 2012
Albania1 Post
December 06 2012 04:25 GMT
#1239
What is funny about this thread is if you recall the 2011 mlg Anaheim the koreans rolled everyone with blue flame drops.
This was the first big foreigner beat down in a while. All but a few white dudes were left in code a. Instantly, blizz brings in the nerf hammer. 8 months of this infestor garbage watching players like mvp lose to nerchio, who had his army in one hotkey and sacrificed lings inefficiently all game . Sorry to say it but besides stephano and scarlett its all patchzerg. What happened to Jinro i want patch terran .
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
December 06 2012 04:32 GMT
#1240
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