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On December 03 2012 06:32 Picklebread wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2012 06:29 nihlon wrote:On December 03 2012 06:22 Picklebread wrote:On December 03 2012 06:16 Figgy wrote:On December 03 2012 00:59 S_SienZ wrote:On December 03 2012 00:54 -Kyo- wrote:
Being stolen from literally means you are the victim and hence it cannot be your fault. So if I leave my debit card in a card machine by accident and walk off, and the store keeper takes it, I'm not even partially at fault? Even if you'd argue I'm not at fault in the focal sense of the word, it would still be fucking stupid on my part. The victim can never be guilty, but sometimes you are partially responsible for getting yourself into certain situations. On December 03 2012 00:56 dde wrote:
rape and lost property that can easily be protected is totally different. If he kept him with him no one coulda stole it i think thats what he meant. Exactly. Your logic is retarded. That's like saying it was Mr. Bitters fault he got robbed for $2000 because he wanted to take a Taxi to his hotel. Shit happens, you can't be safe all the time from everything especially with so many evil people running about in places with over 5000 people. And to blame it at all on the victim when you have no idea the circumstances is crazy talk. You really cant compare getting mugged to getting your stuff stolen, especially when we dont even know the full story. If naniwa say left his bag on a chair and theres no one around to look after it, then whos to say the guy that takes it even KNOWS that it was naniwas? he just saw a bag and thought "oh im going to take it." This is assuming that the guy took it while naniwa was away and didnt know it was naniwas, if he did know then its just a dick move, but if you leave your shit alone then dont be surprised if people take it. It is a dick move, still. Now, if naniwa was sitting with his bag and he stood up cause he was cheering for leenock or something and while he was distracted a guy took it, then thats just plain f'd up. Need to know more of the story, but its most likely its naniwas fault for leaving his bag alone. If i left my backpack on the bus or something and i forgot it, and someone jacks it, its my fault for leaving it. simple as that. Now, when you say that guys logic is "retarded" then you need to back it up well. Comparing stealing to getting mugged is kind've ridiculous logic if you ask me. If i went to the bathroom at a rest stop and i left my guitar on a bench, then its my fault if it gets stolen no questions asked. Its a bare amount of caution because people do stuff like that :/ By that logic it would be your own fault if someone kidnapped your kid unless you keep an eye on him/her 100 % of the time. It's an unreasonable thing to expect that people keep an eye on everything they own constantly without getting their shit stolen. Kidnapping a kid is completely different then jacking someones stuff. Its a different case for different things. If you are a decent person then you wont jack someone's stuff like that, but not all people are "decent".
Yea while were at this lets discuss Obama's upcoming policy for this upcoming fiscal year!
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On December 03 2012 06:48 DreamChaser wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2012 06:08 darkness wrote:
Rofl, really? Who would need a mouse and a keyboard? Not that i you know stole it or anything. But um i could use a new mouse and keyboard especially a high grade one like Naniwas.
Yeah, but the point is, with everyting else on the table, why exactly a mouse/keyboard? I think better thieves would go for money or something much more expensive than what they've got..
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On December 03 2012 00:18 Msr wrote:
That sucks, but it's most likely his own fault for getting it stolen.
LOL. Strong, troll is strong...
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On December 03 2012 06:50 darkness wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2012 06:48 DreamChaser wrote:On December 03 2012 06:08 darkness wrote:
Rofl, really? Who would need a mouse and a keyboard? Not that i you know stole it or anything. But um i could use a new mouse and keyboard especially a high grade one like Naniwas. Yeah, but the point is, with everyting else on the table, why exactly a mouse/keyboard? I think better thieves would go for money or something much more expensive.
I think they just jacked it cause they saw a bag and their like "Oooo goodies!"
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Naniwa got his stuff stolen thread -> arguments about human ethic...
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On December 03 2012 06:50 darkness wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2012 06:48 DreamChaser wrote:On December 03 2012 06:08 darkness wrote:
Rofl, really? Who would need a mouse and a keyboard? Not that i you know stole it or anything. But um i could use a new mouse and keyboard especially a high grade one like Naniwas. Yeah, but the point is, with everyting else on the table, why exactly a mouse/keyboard? I think better thieves would go for money or something much more expensive.
Keyboard = $100
His mouse = $20-$50
$150 dollars not too bad
Market it as Naniwa's = $650 profit.
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On December 03 2012 06:34 Picklebread wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2012 06:32 GreEny K wrote:On December 03 2012 00:40 foxj wrote:On December 03 2012 00:23 nimdil wrote:On December 03 2012 00:18 Msr wrote:
That sucks, but it's most likely his own fault for getting it stolen. Oo. So now thief is not guilty of a theft? Weird ethics. It's normal ethics, because you were careless and didn't take care of your own stuffs, it will be considered as your fault first. Maybe it's normal for Asian but Westerner. edit: Hope they will find out who has stolen them ~~ You should be able to leave your stuff in the middle of a sidewalk and come back and still find it there (or moved off to the side) but nobody has the right to just walk off with it. No its not right but it is your responsibility to make sure it doesn't get stolen. People are messed up man and they will take it. Its the reason why i dont leave stuff in the middle of the sidewalk and whatnot.
Go back and read my reply this on page 3... Seems like the last 2 pages have just been people talking about the same stuff already covered >.>...
Does anyone know what he will be doing if he does not get his stuff back in time..? I can't imagine it being good for the games.. :/ Takes quite some time to get used to different equipment.
to the above poster: That's a really good way to get yourself arrested.. so I doubt whoever stole the items will be selling them 
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On December 03 2012 06:51 FeyverN wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2012 06:50 darkness wrote:On December 03 2012 06:48 DreamChaser wrote:On December 03 2012 06:08 darkness wrote:
Rofl, really? Who would need a mouse and a keyboard? Not that i you know stole it or anything. But um i could use a new mouse and keyboard especially a high grade one like Naniwas. Yeah, but the point is, with everyting else on the table, why exactly a mouse/keyboard? I think better thieves would go for money or something much more expensive. Keyboard = $100 His mouse = $20-$50 $150 dollars not too bad Market it as Naniwa's = $650 profit.
I doubt it's possible to "market it as Naniwa's" because this may reveal who has/have stolen this. Anyway, it's really a stupid case that no one would like.
P.S. MC for president. I think he is the only one to resist theft so far because MrBitter (was it him with the Chinese G's?) and Naniwa have failed.
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On December 03 2012 06:55 darkness wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2012 06:51 FeyverN wrote:On December 03 2012 06:50 darkness wrote:On December 03 2012 06:48 DreamChaser wrote:On December 03 2012 06:08 darkness wrote:
Rofl, really? Who would need a mouse and a keyboard? Not that i you know stole it or anything. But um i could use a new mouse and keyboard especially a high grade one like Naniwas. Yeah, but the point is, with everyting else on the table, why exactly a mouse/keyboard? I think better thieves would go for money or something much more expensive. Keyboard = $100 His mouse = $20-$50 $150 dollars not too bad Market it as Naniwa's = $650 profit. I doubt it's possible to "market it as Naniwa's" because this may reveal who has/have stolen this. Anyway, it's really a stupid case that no one would like. P.S. MC for president. I think he is the only one to resist theft so far because MrBitter (was it him with the Chinese G's?) and Naniwa have failed.
Not if the seller is anonymous in the selling process, a lot of people would like to buy Naniwa's stolen equipment.
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lol you guys. this thread..
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On December 03 2012 06:49 DreamChaser wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2012 06:32 Picklebread wrote:On December 03 2012 06:29 nihlon wrote:On December 03 2012 06:22 Picklebread wrote:On December 03 2012 06:16 Figgy wrote:On December 03 2012 00:59 S_SienZ wrote:On December 03 2012 00:54 -Kyo- wrote:
Being stolen from literally means you are the victim and hence it cannot be your fault. So if I leave my debit card in a card machine by accident and walk off, and the store keeper takes it, I'm not even partially at fault? Even if you'd argue I'm not at fault in the focal sense of the word, it would still be fucking stupid on my part. The victim can never be guilty, but sometimes you are partially responsible for getting yourself into certain situations. On December 03 2012 00:56 dde wrote:
rape and lost property that can easily be protected is totally different. If he kept him with him no one coulda stole it i think thats what he meant. Exactly. Your logic is retarded. That's like saying it was Mr. Bitters fault he got robbed for $2000 because he wanted to take a Taxi to his hotel. Shit happens, you can't be safe all the time from everything especially with so many evil people running about in places with over 5000 people. And to blame it at all on the victim when you have no idea the circumstances is crazy talk. You really cant compare getting mugged to getting your stuff stolen, especially when we dont even know the full story. If naniwa say left his bag on a chair and theres no one around to look after it, then whos to say the guy that takes it even KNOWS that it was naniwas? he just saw a bag and thought "oh im going to take it." This is assuming that the guy took it while naniwa was away and didnt know it was naniwas, if he did know then its just a dick move, but if you leave your shit alone then dont be surprised if people take it. It is a dick move, still. Now, if naniwa was sitting with his bag and he stood up cause he was cheering for leenock or something and while he was distracted a guy took it, then thats just plain f'd up. Need to know more of the story, but its most likely its naniwas fault for leaving his bag alone. If i left my backpack on the bus or something and i forgot it, and someone jacks it, its my fault for leaving it. simple as that. Now, when you say that guys logic is "retarded" then you need to back it up well. Comparing stealing to getting mugged is kind've ridiculous logic if you ask me. If i went to the bathroom at a rest stop and i left my guitar on a bench, then its my fault if it gets stolen no questions asked. Its a bare amount of caution because people do stuff like that :/ By that logic it would be your own fault if someone kidnapped your kid unless you keep an eye on him/her 100 % of the time. It's an unreasonable thing to expect that people keep an eye on everything they own constantly without getting their shit stolen. Kidnapping a kid is completely different then jacking someones stuff. Its a different case for different things. If you are a decent person then you wont jack someone's stuff like that, but not all people are "decent". Yea while were at this lets discuss Obama's upcoming policy for this upcoming fiscal year!
Please god no.
On December 03 2012 06:51 brachester wrote:
Naniwa got his stuff stolen thread -> arguments about human ethic...
Well this IS Team Liquid. I once went into a philosophy thread about morality, and before we even got into the second page some guy made a post stating that the OP was faulty as morality itself doesn't exist, and followed that up with a couple of paragraphs of his reasoning.
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On December 03 2012 06:49 DreamChaser wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2012 06:32 Picklebread wrote:On December 03 2012 06:29 nihlon wrote:On December 03 2012 06:22 Picklebread wrote:On December 03 2012 06:16 Figgy wrote:On December 03 2012 00:59 S_SienZ wrote:On December 03 2012 00:54 -Kyo- wrote:
Being stolen from literally means you are the victim and hence it cannot be your fault. So if I leave my debit card in a card machine by accident and walk off, and the store keeper takes it, I'm not even partially at fault? Even if you'd argue I'm not at fault in the focal sense of the word, it would still be fucking stupid on my part. The victim can never be guilty, but sometimes you are partially responsible for getting yourself into certain situations. On December 03 2012 00:56 dde wrote:
rape and lost property that can easily be protected is totally different. If he kept him with him no one coulda stole it i think thats what he meant. Exactly. Your logic is retarded. That's like saying it was Mr. Bitters fault he got robbed for $2000 because he wanted to take a Taxi to his hotel. Shit happens, you can't be safe all the time from everything especially with so many evil people running about in places with over 5000 people. And to blame it at all on the victim when you have no idea the circumstances is crazy talk. You really cant compare getting mugged to getting your stuff stolen, especially when we dont even know the full story. If naniwa say left his bag on a chair and theres no one around to look after it, then whos to say the guy that takes it even KNOWS that it was naniwas? he just saw a bag and thought "oh im going to take it." This is assuming that the guy took it while naniwa was away and didnt know it was naniwas, if he did know then its just a dick move, but if you leave your shit alone then dont be surprised if people take it. It is a dick move, still. Now, if naniwa was sitting with his bag and he stood up cause he was cheering for leenock or something and while he was distracted a guy took it, then thats just plain f'd up. Need to know more of the story, but its most likely its naniwas fault for leaving his bag alone. If i left my backpack on the bus or something and i forgot it, and someone jacks it, its my fault for leaving it. simple as that. Now, when you say that guys logic is "retarded" then you need to back it up well. Comparing stealing to getting mugged is kind've ridiculous logic if you ask me. If i went to the bathroom at a rest stop and i left my guitar on a bench, then its my fault if it gets stolen no questions asked. Its a bare amount of caution because people do stuff like that :/ By that logic it would be your own fault if someone kidnapped your kid unless you keep an eye on him/her 100 % of the time. It's an unreasonable thing to expect that people keep an eye on everything they own constantly without getting their shit stolen. Kidnapping a kid is completely different then jacking someones stuff. Its a different case for different things. If you are a decent person then you wont jack someone's stuff like that, but not all people are "decent". Yea while were at this lets discuss Obama's upcoming policy for this upcoming fiscal year!
Honestly, it could be a lot better than he makes it out to be, but obviously he has to cut a lot of financial corners in order to provide for the plans that he hopes to achieve. The defense budget is a prime example of this. The United States invests the most into military than the rest of the world, so it is probably a good idea to cut back on it and invest it elsewhere, such as creating jobs, education, healthcare etc. Another thing which should be noted is how we constantly invest money overseas and then wonder, why don't we have a lot of jobs in America? It's one thing to make a small-term investment overseas, we don't have to act as bodyguards for countries such as South Korea or Afghanistan. It all depends on our moral views, but I think we should focus on building our own country before we go and attempt to save other people.
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On December 03 2012 06:50 darkness wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2012 06:48 DreamChaser wrote:On December 03 2012 06:08 darkness wrote:
Rofl, really? Who would need a mouse and a keyboard? Not that i you know stole it or anything. But um i could use a new mouse and keyboard especially a high grade one like Naniwas. Yeah, but the point is, with everyting else on the table, why exactly a mouse/keyboard? I think better thieves would go for money or something much more expensive than what they've got..
they did it cause its naniwa, im waiting the day MKP or HerO has the same problem
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On December 03 2012 06:49 DreamChaser wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2012 06:32 Picklebread wrote:On December 03 2012 06:29 nihlon wrote:On December 03 2012 06:22 Picklebread wrote:On December 03 2012 06:16 Figgy wrote:On December 03 2012 00:59 S_SienZ wrote:On December 03 2012 00:54 -Kyo- wrote:
Being stolen from literally means you are the victim and hence it cannot be your fault. So if I leave my debit card in a card machine by accident and walk off, and the store keeper takes it, I'm not even partially at fault? Even if you'd argue I'm not at fault in the focal sense of the word, it would still be fucking stupid on my part. The victim can never be guilty, but sometimes you are partially responsible for getting yourself into certain situations. On December 03 2012 00:56 dde wrote:
rape and lost property that can easily be protected is totally different. If he kept him with him no one coulda stole it i think thats what he meant. Exactly. Your logic is retarded. That's like saying it was Mr. Bitters fault he got robbed for $2000 because he wanted to take a Taxi to his hotel. Shit happens, you can't be safe all the time from everything especially with so many evil people running about in places with over 5000 people. And to blame it at all on the victim when you have no idea the circumstances is crazy talk. You really cant compare getting mugged to getting your stuff stolen, especially when we dont even know the full story. If naniwa say left his bag on a chair and theres no one around to look after it, then whos to say the guy that takes it even KNOWS that it was naniwas? he just saw a bag and thought "oh im going to take it." This is assuming that the guy took it while naniwa was away and didnt know it was naniwas, if he did know then its just a dick move, but if you leave your shit alone then dont be surprised if people take it. It is a dick move, still. Now, if naniwa was sitting with his bag and he stood up cause he was cheering for leenock or something and while he was distracted a guy took it, then thats just plain f'd up. Need to know more of the story, but its most likely its naniwas fault for leaving his bag alone. If i left my backpack on the bus or something and i forgot it, and someone jacks it, its my fault for leaving it. simple as that. Now, when you say that guys logic is "retarded" then you need to back it up well. Comparing stealing to getting mugged is kind've ridiculous logic if you ask me. If i went to the bathroom at a rest stop and i left my guitar on a bench, then its my fault if it gets stolen no questions asked. Its a bare amount of caution because people do stuff like that :/ By that logic it would be your own fault if someone kidnapped your kid unless you keep an eye on him/her 100 % of the time. It's an unreasonable thing to expect that people keep an eye on everything they own constantly without getting their shit stolen. Kidnapping a kid is completely different then jacking someones stuff. Its a different case for different things. If you are a decent person then you wont jack someone's stuff like that, but not all people are "decent". Yea while were at this lets discuss Obama's upcoming policy for this upcoming fiscal year!
Inb4: "all i no iz dis iz all Obamaz fault. if it wasnt 4 his stupid fiscal policies peeps wudnt have 2 resort 2 stealin 2 get by "
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On December 03 2012 06:51 brachester wrote:
Naniwa got his stuff stolen thread -> arguments about human ethic...
I was thinking the same thing :D by now it's become my own little bit of TL comedy to just read what a new thread is about and waiting a few minutes before skipping to the last page to see how far the community managed to derail the thread.
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Well it deserves it's own thread when it causes Naniwa to miss the GSL World Championship.
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-rage- If I ever find out who stole his stuff there will be blood.
BLOOD I SAY!!!!
What kind of dick mentality does this kind of thing take?!
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sarcasm mode: they just wanted to place a zerg player instead of protoss of course.
sad for naniwa 
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It was Ryung; he was still mad about his semi matchup, he needed stuff to smash.
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What is wrong with people...
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