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On December 02 2012 03:59 Whatson wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 03:54 Ollie wrote:On December 02 2012 03:50 Whatson wrote:On December 02 2012 03:41 Ollie wrote:On December 02 2012 03:21 Nick_54 wrote:On December 02 2012 03:17 Ollie wrote:On December 02 2012 03:12 Nick_54 wrote:On December 02 2012 03:02 mango_destroyer wrote:On December 02 2012 02:54 Koesader wrote:On December 02 2012 02:17 mango_destroyer wrote:
Ryung BMs and it is all okay with the majority of the community, but when Sniper calls Ryung out on his whine, he is a douchebag....hmmmm. I guess people feel like Ryung was right. At least I do. Why is Ryung being right have to do with anything? He was being a complete dick by doing that. There are a bunch of different ways he can complain about balance like in interviews but he choose to do it in that game. If someone was fat and ugly would you tell them that to their face? Will the truth of it make things okay? People have complained in interviews for six months. Guess what happened? Jack shit. Ryung is losing money because of Blizzard not being willing to do anything. I'm glad he spoke his mind and hope it leads to Blizzard waking up and trying to fix the game instead of saying "its fine." The fat and ugly analogy makes no sense. It wouldn't hurt me, so I wouldn't say shit. Ryung is being cost MONEY because of the game being broken. This is obvisouly hurting him. There's a reason everyone is ok with it. He's right, we want change, and maybe this will actually get Blizzard to work out a change. Nothing else has yet. Did you even watch those games? Ryung cost himself money. He made SEVERAL mistakes. I would have understood it if it was a classic, textbook Infestor/Broodlord vs. Terran game where the Terran played amazingly but the Zerg made Infestors so he won, but that's not what happened. Ryung played badly in those games, and then whined about it. Yeah, I did watch the games. You want to explain all the mistakes he made to me? Let's see. Bad Turret placement and forgetting to lift his supply depots on Whirlwind, letting the Zerglings by on Cloud Kingdom, forgetting Siege Mode on Daybreak. He was on tilt the entire series, and wasn't his usual self. Meanwhile, Sniper had amazing Overlord placement, great army positioning and good micro. Wouldn't it be Sniper who should be on tilt after losing 2 games straight LOL Ryung lost 2 game straight as well. What's your point? Are you serious? Do you actually think that Sniper would be fine after going up 2 games, and then throwing the next two away?
Yep! It happens all the time! There are players that are very emotional in their games, and some that aren't.
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No surprise both players didn't want to play a mirror finals and would have preferred a ZvT. At least hyun directly states that zerg is favored in ZvT but sniper plays it off as if he wanted ZvT for the fans.
I think ZvZ from an observer standpoint is really fun to watch compared to ZvT recently.
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On December 01 2012 20:33 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2012 20:31 Dragt wrote:
Pretty cocky statement by sniper, considering he hasn´t achieved anything prior the current "meta game shifts". neither did hyun
neither did Bogus or Ryung.
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On December 02 2012 03:41 crbox wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 03:39 canikizu wrote:On December 02 2012 03:34 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
I can very much understand Ryung. This guy has practiced probably a 1000 games TvZ for this season, and after all that he came to the conclusion that he could not beat Life at all and had to resort to 2 raxes and blue flame rushes to give himself a chance at winning vs Sniper. He might of course be wrong or simply a lot worse than Sniper, but in light of the most recent data available he at least has found that TvZ is not a matchup he wants to play straight up. There is probably a lot of saved up frustration from losing practice games and earlier games, trying time and time again to find a solid, stable way of playing, and not being able to.
No Terran wants to play TvZ straight up I think. I mean, You can find players who specialize at PvZ, PvP, ZvZ, TvT, TvP, but I don't think there's any Terran who call himself master of TvZ. Isn't Taeja's best MU TvZ?
He's been more of a TvP specialist traditionally. Currently you'd be hard pressed to find any pro Terrans who say they like TvZ, let alone consider themselves specialists/masters. Compare that with the number of Zergs who say they like ZvT or even outright say it's Zerg favored, and you get a pretty clear picture of what the matchup actually looks like. Still, can't fault Sniper for trying to put down balance talk. If there was a ton of money on the line and I had an inherent advantage, I wouldn't want to lose it either.
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On December 02 2012 04:08 rasers wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2012 20:33 opterown wrote:On December 01 2012 20:31 Dragt wrote:
Pretty cocky statement by sniper, considering he hasn´t achieved anything prior the current "meta game shifts". neither did hyun neither did Bogus or Ryung.
TIL consistent Code S competition and repeated RO8 accomplishments are considered unimportant.
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Glad that Sniper called out Ryung for such a childish display of sportsmanship. Really like both of these players styles, but I'm hoping Sniper takes it.
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So, korean patchzergs got a lot of pride in them.
I really hope Sniper get stomped.
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On December 02 2012 04:13 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 04:08 rasers wrote:On December 01 2012 20:33 opterown wrote:On December 01 2012 20:31 Dragt wrote:
Pretty cocky statement by sniper, considering he hasn´t achieved anything prior the current "meta game shifts". neither did hyun neither did Bogus or Ryung. TIL consistent Code S competition and repeated RO8 accomplishments are considered unimportant.
yup.
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On December 02 2012 03:26 crbox wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 03:12 Nick_54 wrote:On December 02 2012 03:02 mango_destroyer wrote:On December 02 2012 02:54 Koesader wrote:On December 02 2012 02:17 mango_destroyer wrote:
Ryung BMs and it is all okay with the majority of the community, but when Sniper calls Ryung out on his whine, he is a douchebag....hmmmm. I guess people feel like Ryung was right. At least I do. Why is Ryung being right have to do with anything? He was being a complete dick by doing that. There are a bunch of different ways he can complain about balance like in interviews but he choose to do it in that game. If someone was fat and ugly would you tell them that to their face? Will the truth of it make things okay? People have complained in interviews for six months. Guess what happened? Jack shit. Ryung is losing money because of Blizzard not being willing to do anything. I'm glad he spoke his mind and hope it leads to Blizzard waking up and trying to fix the game instead of saying "its fine." The fat and ugly analogy makes no sense. It wouldn't hurt me, so I wouldn't say shit. Ryung is being cost MONEY because of the game being broken. This is obvisouly hurting him. There's a reason everyone is ok with it. He's right, we want change, and maybe this will actually get Blizzard to work out a change. Nothing else has yet. wait.. you're saying Ryung lost money because of blizz? LOL are you being serious dude? I think Sniper just played better than him. I think Terran should not even whine at all on the balance. They've been the most op race since the beta, there was a point when more than half gsl code s players were terran AND also, ghosts. Just ghosts. Make them and stop qqing please, thank you. Ryung didn't lose money because of blizzard, that's a completely stupid statement.
He starts every tvz at a disadvantage or at least on a clock. How the hell would that not cost him money?
There's a reason none of the top korean players use ghosts, its not that they are dumb or havent tried. They've practiced and know a lot more than you.
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Ryung stated "IMBA" in the chat right at the last minute.
Terran players are shameless. I know that a lot of people are calling Zerg imba these days but I honestly just think it's an excuse for people with no skills. Regardless of the map or race, the superior player always wins so I just don't understand why they behave that way. I don't even understand why sometimes the winning players start whining.
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Just remembered that Lucifer (Undead in warcraft 3. weakest race blabla) always said that the superior player would win. kinda funny cause he played the weakest race. but i guess Lucifer is not a child anymore like Ryung.
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On December 02 2012 04:13 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 04:08 rasers wrote:On December 01 2012 20:33 opterown wrote:On December 01 2012 20:31 Dragt wrote:
Pretty cocky statement by sniper, considering he hasn´t achieved anything prior the current "meta game shifts". neither did hyun neither did Bogus or Ryung. TIL consistent Code S competition and repeated RO8 accomplishments are considered unimportant.
TIL Being consistently number 1 on Korean ladder is unimportant. (Sniper)
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I'm gonna be honest, the whole Sniper is a villain thing is kinda wearing on me. He beats players fans like, but he beats them fairly.
I was a little disappointed in both Ryung and Sniper for their comments. However, I understand that the emotion of the moment probably got to both of them. Ryung must have been very upset after losing a close series, and Sniper was also understandably upset after having his opponent claim his victory was because of imbalance and not skill.
I think people should just calm down and not hate on either player too much. I got kind of disheartened reading through this thread with all the people calling Sniper names and slurs. Seriously, be better than that people! Let's just hope for a good finals, and whatever Blizzard is going to do about balance they will do.
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On December 02 2012 04:55 Ollie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 04:13 TotalBiscuit wrote:On December 02 2012 04:08 rasers wrote:On December 01 2012 20:33 opterown wrote:On December 01 2012 20:31 Dragt wrote:
Pretty cocky statement by sniper, considering he hasn´t achieved anything prior the current "meta game shifts". neither did hyun neither did Bogus or Ryung. TIL consistent Code S competition and repeated RO8 accomplishments are considered unimportant. TIL Being consistently number 1 on Korean ladder is unimportant. (Sniper)
TIL Korean progamers care about ladder.
And Sniper was never close to top of KR ladder before February. I wonder, why?
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On December 02 2012 05:14 DidYuhim wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 04:55 Ollie wrote:On December 02 2012 04:13 TotalBiscuit wrote:On December 02 2012 04:08 rasers wrote:On December 01 2012 20:33 opterown wrote:On December 01 2012 20:31 Dragt wrote:
Pretty cocky statement by sniper, considering he hasn´t achieved anything prior the current "meta game shifts". neither did hyun neither did Bogus or Ryung. TIL consistent Code S competition and repeated RO8 accomplishments are considered unimportant. TIL Being consistently number 1 on Korean ladder is unimportant. (Sniper) TIL Korean progamers care about ladder. And Sniper was never close to top of KR ladder before February. I wonder, why?
Lucifron was a nobody in February too, guess he is only doing well now because of the patch right?
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On December 02 2012 05:17 HotGlueGun wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 05:14 DidYuhim wrote:On December 02 2012 04:55 Ollie wrote:On December 02 2012 04:13 TotalBiscuit wrote:On December 02 2012 04:08 rasers wrote:On December 01 2012 20:33 opterown wrote:On December 01 2012 20:31 Dragt wrote:
Pretty cocky statement by sniper, considering he hasn´t achieved anything prior the current "meta game shifts". neither did hyun neither did Bogus or Ryung. TIL consistent Code S competition and repeated RO8 accomplishments are considered unimportant. TIL Being consistently number 1 on Korean ladder is unimportant. (Sniper) TIL Korean progamers care about ladder. And Sniper was never close to top of KR ladder before February. I wonder, why? Lucifron was a nobody in February too, guess he is only doing well now because of the patch right?
Luci... who?
Oh, the guy who won a WCG Spanish qualifier against his brother. Oh, ye. What about him?
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On December 02 2012 05:14 DidYuhim wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 04:55 Ollie wrote:On December 02 2012 04:13 TotalBiscuit wrote:On December 02 2012 04:08 rasers wrote:On December 01 2012 20:33 opterown wrote:On December 01 2012 20:31 Dragt wrote:
Pretty cocky statement by sniper, considering he hasn´t achieved anything prior the current "meta game shifts". neither did hyun neither did Bogus or Ryung. TIL consistent Code S competition and repeated RO8 accomplishments are considered unimportant. TIL Being consistently number 1 on Korean ladder is unimportant. (Sniper) TIL Korean progamers care about ladder. And Sniper was never close to top of KR ladder before February. I wonder, why?
But... the Queen patch was in May...
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On December 02 2012 05:17 HotGlueGun wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 05:14 DidYuhim wrote:On December 02 2012 04:55 Ollie wrote:On December 02 2012 04:13 TotalBiscuit wrote:On December 02 2012 04:08 rasers wrote:On December 01 2012 20:33 opterown wrote:On December 01 2012 20:31 Dragt wrote:
Pretty cocky statement by sniper, considering he hasn´t achieved anything prior the current "meta game shifts". neither did hyun neither did Bogus or Ryung. TIL consistent Code S competition and repeated RO8 accomplishments are considered unimportant. TIL Being consistently number 1 on Korean ladder is unimportant. (Sniper) TIL Korean progamers care about ladder. And Sniper was never close to top of KR ladder before February. I wonder, why? Lucifron was a nobody in February too, guess he is only doing well now because of the patch right?
Lucifron doing very well in 2010 just saying ...
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On December 02 2012 05:21 Ollie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 05:14 DidYuhim wrote:On December 02 2012 04:55 Ollie wrote:On December 02 2012 04:13 TotalBiscuit wrote:On December 02 2012 04:08 rasers wrote:On December 01 2012 20:33 opterown wrote:On December 01 2012 20:31 Dragt wrote:
Pretty cocky statement by sniper, considering he hasn´t achieved anything prior the current "meta game shifts". neither did hyun neither did Bogus or Ryung. TIL consistent Code S competition and repeated RO8 accomplishments are considered unimportant. TIL Being consistently number 1 on Korean ladder is unimportant. (Sniper) TIL Korean progamers care about ladder. And Sniper was never close to top of KR ladder before February. I wonder, why? But... the Queen patch was in May...
I'm pretty sure that during MLG Spring Arena DRG said something along the lines "I can do whatever I want and still win [against terran]"
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On December 02 2012 05:14 DidYuhim wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 04:55 Ollie wrote:On December 02 2012 04:13 TotalBiscuit wrote:On December 02 2012 04:08 rasers wrote:On December 01 2012 20:33 opterown wrote:On December 01 2012 20:31 Dragt wrote:
Pretty cocky statement by sniper, considering he hasn´t achieved anything prior the current "meta game shifts". neither did hyun neither did Bogus or Ryung. TIL consistent Code S competition and repeated RO8 accomplishments are considered unimportant. TIL Being consistently number 1 on Korean ladder is unimportant. (Sniper) TIL Korean progamers care about ladder. And Sniper was never close to top of KR ladder before February. I wonder, why?
Hint, search the date when THE PATCH was implemented before you make more silly statements...
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