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Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
December 01 2012 00:23 GMT
#121
On December 01 2012 07:05 plogamer wrote:
I'm with KeSPA on this one. IPL's parent company is owned by Rupert Murdoc. Man is known for his business prowess (read: cutthroat ) I too would be nervous and cautious if I were KeSPA.



that's not how business works in the real world. For some reason I don't think IPL is trying to scam money out of kespa..
Raigeki
Profile Joined September 2010
Hong Kong207 Posts
December 01 2012 00:25 GMT
#122
i dont really get it... technically bogus/innovation was there for the GSL ro4, and IPL5 open bracket was just a bonus to him, did IPL5 even "invited" bogus to play in their tournament?
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 01 2012 00:34 GMT
#123
On December 01 2012 05:49 rauk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 04:30 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On December 01 2012 04:18 Salazarz wrote:
On December 01 2012 03:45 Markwerf wrote:
This whole stuff is retarded, Kespa is a completely unneccesary organisation that needlessly complicates communication and the like.


KeSPA is the only reason Jaedong still has a job.


Oh please. If KeSPA doesn't keep Jaedong paid, ESF or foreign teams will gladly pick him up.


another kespa team would buy him 100% in the event that t8 disbanded. it's not like foreign teams have the money to buy jaedong to begin with, EG would literally have to release every other sc2 player on their team to afford him.

Lololol I love how people speak with such certainty on things they literally have 0 clue on
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
December 01 2012 00:36 GMT
#124
On December 01 2012 09:23 Glurkenspurk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 07:05 plogamer wrote:
I'm with KeSPA on this one. IPL's parent company is owned by Rupert Murdoc. Man is known for his business prowess (read: cutthroat ) I too would be nervous and cautious if I were KeSPA.



that's not how business works in the real world. For some reason I don't think IPL is trying to scam money out of kespa..


Never said anything about scams. Just that IPL will do what it needs with no regard to KeSPA's interests, which is fair. And that KeSPA is right to protect its own interests.
RyF
Profile Joined October 2011
Austria508 Posts
December 01 2012 00:41 GMT
#125
well kespa ónly hurting their player by too many useless restirctions. overall there are enough koreans at ipl so not that big of a deal if only flash would have been there...
mtn
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
729 Posts
December 01 2012 00:44 GMT
#126
On December 01 2012 09:41 RyF wrote:
well kespa ónly hurting their player by too many useless restirctions. overall there are enough koreans at ipl so not that big of a deal if only flash would have been there...


Last Time i checked, BW was runnin for good 10 years, while in the West we already failed to run an eSport- like events in the past, so I think your point is useless.
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
December 01 2012 00:47 GMT
#127
On December 01 2012 09:34 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 05:49 rauk wrote:
On December 01 2012 04:30 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On December 01 2012 04:18 Salazarz wrote:
On December 01 2012 03:45 Markwerf wrote:
This whole stuff is retarded, Kespa is a completely unneccesary organisation that needlessly complicates communication and the like.


KeSPA is the only reason Jaedong still has a job.


Oh please. If KeSPA doesn't keep Jaedong paid, ESF or foreign teams will gladly pick him up.


another kespa team would buy him 100% in the event that t8 disbanded. it's not like foreign teams have the money to buy jaedong to begin with, EG would literally have to release every other sc2 player on their team to afford him.

Lololol I love how people speak with such certainty on things they literally have 0 clue on


Well, I still kinda believe that EG has more money than some teams in KesPA (Woongjin comes to my mind).
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
Jamial
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1289 Posts
December 01 2012 00:50 GMT
#128
On December 01 2012 09:44 mtn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 09:41 RyF wrote:
well kespa ónly hurting their player by too many useless restirctions. overall there are enough koreans at ipl so not that big of a deal if only flash would have been there...


Last Time i checked, BW was runnin for good 10 years, while in the West we already failed to run an eSport- like events in the past, so I think your point is useless.


I don't agree, it's different times, and LoL is growing everywhere to way bigger scale than BW ever did in the west. The Koreans need to expand their mindset, need to accept that they actually have to deal and respect these foreign companies. Yes, I said LoL, this is an SC2 thread, but the argument is the same.
Flaf?
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
December 01 2012 00:50 GMT
#129
I thought MLG had exclusivity on Kespa players in foreign tournaments anyway?
ZerglingTwins
Profile Joined October 2012
United States850 Posts
December 01 2012 00:57 GMT
#130
On December 01 2012 09:50 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
I thought MLG had exclusivity on Kespa players in foreign tournaments anyway?


Now, it is clear from this statement and Bogus in IPL, they are not exclusive.
Searching for my twin ling brother.
aristarchus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States652 Posts
December 01 2012 01:08 GMT
#131
On December 01 2012 09:57 ZerglingTwins wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 09:50 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
I thought MLG had exclusivity on Kespa players in foreign tournaments anyway?


Now, it is clear from this statement and Bogus in IPL, they are not exclusive.

I don't see this as clear at all. The deal was publicly announced, so I have trouble believing everyone was just lying. They're allowed to send people to other tournaments - it's just that they need MLG's permission to do so. I think this statement is mostly just a way to seem reasonable. I think you'll get nice cooperation on some tournaments, but IPL (which is the most directly competing with MLG) probably has very little shot.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
December 01 2012 01:14 GMT
#132
On December 01 2012 09:34 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 05:49 rauk wrote:
On December 01 2012 04:30 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On December 01 2012 04:18 Salazarz wrote:
On December 01 2012 03:45 Markwerf wrote:
This whole stuff is retarded, Kespa is a completely unneccesary organisation that needlessly complicates communication and the like.


KeSPA is the only reason Jaedong still has a job.


Oh please. If KeSPA doesn't keep Jaedong paid, ESF or foreign teams will gladly pick him up.


another kespa team would buy him 100% in the event that t8 disbanded. it's not like foreign teams have the money to buy jaedong to begin with, EG would literally have to release every other sc2 player on their team to afford him.

Lololol I love how people speak with such certainty on things they literally have 0 clue on

eg.jaedong you heard it here first folks
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
December 01 2012 01:20 GMT
#133
On December 01 2012 07:44 iamthedave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 07:18 Jamial wrote:
Am I the only one who just wants KeSPA to die quickly? I don't get why people adore them so much, they're full of drama, full of bullshit, and always think they're in the right.


Compared to the esf which has never been involved in any drama *COUGH NASL COUGH* of *COUGH everything involving Slayers ever COUGH* course.

The entire esports scene is a dramafest of epic proporitions. Kespa is comparitively quiet. When's the last time you heard of Kespa managers bitching out their players in public (which is to say, in media such as twitter etc.)?


Dear, would you like me to make you some chicken noodle soup? I think you may be coming down with a cold.
I drop suckas like Plinko
rasers
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden691 Posts
December 01 2012 01:22 GMT
#134
On December 01 2012 09:47 Veldril wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 09:34 iNcontroL wrote:
On December 01 2012 05:49 rauk wrote:
On December 01 2012 04:30 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On December 01 2012 04:18 Salazarz wrote:
On December 01 2012 03:45 Markwerf wrote:
This whole stuff is retarded, Kespa is a completely unneccesary organisation that needlessly complicates communication and the like.


KeSPA is the only reason Jaedong still has a job.


Oh please. If KeSPA doesn't keep Jaedong paid, ESF or foreign teams will gladly pick him up.


another kespa team would buy him 100% in the event that t8 disbanded. it's not like foreign teams have the money to buy jaedong to begin with, EG would literally have to release every other sc2 player on their team to afford him.

Lololol I love how people speak with such certainty on things they literally have 0 clue on


Well, I still kinda believe that EG has more money than some teams in KesPA (Woongjin comes to my mind).

insane guy right here!
Shai
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada806 Posts
December 01 2012 01:53 GMT
#135
On December 01 2012 09:34 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 05:49 rauk wrote:
On December 01 2012 04:30 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On December 01 2012 04:18 Salazarz wrote:
On December 01 2012 03:45 Markwerf wrote:
This whole stuff is retarded, Kespa is a completely unneccesary organisation that needlessly complicates communication and the like.


KeSPA is the only reason Jaedong still has a job.


Oh please. If KeSPA doesn't keep Jaedong paid, ESF or foreign teams will gladly pick him up.


another kespa team would buy him 100% in the event that t8 disbanded. it's not like foreign teams have the money to buy jaedong to begin with, EG would literally have to release every other sc2 player on their team to afford him.

Lololol I love how people speak with such certainty on things they literally have 0 clue on


Lololol I love how people who are in the know literally say nothing.

Leave us to speculation unless you want to say something definite.
Eagerly awaiting Techies.
ZachFreeman
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia484 Posts
December 01 2012 02:13 GMT
#136
On December 01 2012 09:34 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 05:49 rauk wrote:
On December 01 2012 04:30 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On December 01 2012 04:18 Salazarz wrote:
On December 01 2012 03:45 Markwerf wrote:
This whole stuff is retarded, Kespa is a completely unneccesary organisation that needlessly complicates communication and the like.


KeSPA is the only reason Jaedong still has a job.


Oh please. If KeSPA doesn't keep Jaedong paid, ESF or foreign teams will gladly pick him up.


another kespa team would buy him 100% in the event that t8 disbanded. it's not like foreign teams have the money to buy jaedong to begin with, EG would literally have to release every other sc2 player on their team to afford him.

Lololol I love how people speak with such certainty on things they literally have 0 clue on

As always, you da man.
GIVE ME COMMAND
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
December 01 2012 02:18 GMT
#137
On December 01 2012 10:08 aristarchus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 09:57 ZerglingTwins wrote:
On December 01 2012 09:50 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
I thought MLG had exclusivity on Kespa players in foreign tournaments anyway?


Now, it is clear from this statement and Bogus in IPL, they are not exclusive.

I don't see this as clear at all. The deal was publicly announced, so I have trouble believing everyone was just lying. They're allowed to send people to other tournaments - it's just that they need MLG's permission to do so. I think this statement is mostly just a way to seem reasonable. I think you'll get nice cooperation on some tournaments, but IPL (which is the most directly competing with MLG) probably has very little shot.


from what i understand, people assumed kespa-mlg lock, apparently there isnt one
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
xwoGworwaTsx
Profile Joined April 2012
United States984 Posts
December 01 2012 02:24 GMT
#138
Wow, the international market game has begun.
But I think this is a professional and a logical move.
Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
December 01 2012 02:34 GMT
#139
I don't see what the big deal is... You didn't get to see KeSPA players at IPL.. Okay then enjoy watching the bunch of people that are playing. Goodness.
Jaedong <3 | BW - The first game I ever loved
ZerglingTwins
Profile Joined October 2012
United States850 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 02:42:24
December 01 2012 02:41 GMT
#140
nvm
Searching for my twin ling brother.
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