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pewpew415
Profile Joined December 2010
United States48 Posts
November 27 2012 18:40 GMT
#221
i think a lot of the people forget that technically..fnatic is still a foreign team and is mostly likely candidate imo
rasers
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden691 Posts
November 27 2012 18:41 GMT
#222
On November 28 2012 03:36 CV-Mackh wrote:
so Kespa players are seeded in the GSL (mostly to be kicked out again in code B the next season for my greater pleasure) and they don't seed some ESF players ?

Kespa at its finest...
May this tournament be a dramatic failure as the sad MLG-Kespa thing,

not sure if troll or just very very stupid and hating.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
November 27 2012 18:45 GMT
#223
On November 28 2012 03:40 pewpew415 wrote:
i think a lot of the people forget that technically..fnatic is still a foreign team and is mostly likely candidate imo

I think even EG would do better than Fnatic to be honest. They've just lost Byul (possibly to EG), so all they've left is Alive and Oz (noteworthy players, that is). I can see the cooperation between Fnatic and EG though that someone speculated about a while ago, with Raidcall being the title sponsor of both teams and having Hwanni as the link between them. Together they could have a roster that could compete.
Get off my lawn, young punks
GeneralSnoop
Profile Joined February 2011
United States142 Posts
November 27 2012 18:45 GMT
#224
my question (especially since Wax is the topic starter): does this mean we are going to finally get fantasy league back in SCII!?!?!?!? It seems like I have been waiting for years for another fantasy GSTL, but there format change didn't really work at all for fantasy. Now with SCII proleague, the time may finally be right!
"I could probably live in trees" - LiquidJinro
lavosprime
Profile Joined September 2012
United States9 Posts
November 27 2012 18:51 GMT
#225
On November 28 2012 03:36 CV-Mackh wrote:
May this tournament be a dramatic failure as the sad MLG-Kespa thing,

Do you realize that if an entire year-long season of Proleague is a dramatic failure, a huge chunk of Korean SC2 eSports probably falls apart?
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
November 27 2012 18:54 GMT
#226
On November 28 2012 03:36 CV-Mackh wrote:
so Kespa players are seeded in the GSL (mostly to be kicked out again in code B the next season for my greater pleasure) and they don't seed some ESF players ?

Kespa at its finest...
May this tournament be a dramatic failure as the sad MLG-Kespa thing,


why you mad bro?

First off PL has a ~$100,000 registration fee for the teams. How man eSF teams can pay this? 2-3? Secondly, I feel like the eSF teams would want to all enter PL together or not at all. If on eSF team were to join over others, I feel like the other eSF teams would feel betrayed.
CV-Mackh
Profile Joined April 2012
France102 Posts
November 27 2012 18:55 GMT
#227
On November 28 2012 03:51 lavosprime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 03:36 CV-Mackh wrote:
May this tournament be a dramatic failure as the sad MLG-Kespa thing,

Do you realize that if an entire year-long season of Proleague is a dramatic failure, a huge chunk of Korean SC2 eSports probably falls apart?



Then this tournament should definitly exclude the top players in Korea by refusing to seed ESF that makes sense
Just a few more drones I sware !
sHt_
Profile Joined January 2011
France239 Posts
November 27 2012 19:02 GMT
#228
I'd so much love Axiom (3 players) to team up with any other team for this!
Something along the line of Ryung, Crank, Mya, Taeja, Hero, Zenio and Sea would be a line-up i'd cheer for more than any other!
In Blizzard's imaginary world, players sit at home devising plans to maximize the usage of destructible rocks (c) Ver
Taipoka
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1224 Posts
November 27 2012 19:05 GMT
#229
On November 28 2012 03:41 rasers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 03:36 CV-Mackh wrote:
so Kespa players are seeded in the GSL (mostly to be kicked out again in code B the next season for my greater pleasure) and they don't seed some ESF players ?

Kespa at its finest...
May this tournament be a dramatic failure as the sad MLG-Kespa thing,

not sure if troll or just very very stupid and hating.

Thats a good question.
And in the 7th day, Flash stopped macroing the universe.
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
November 27 2012 19:09 GMT
#230
League would've been so much more epic if they included GSTL teams.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
November 27 2012 19:10 GMT
#231
It sucks to hear its a year long, but its for the best, since most kespa players are still pretty much new to SC2. Gives players that time to catch up.

And hey, we will probably see a larger map rotation!
starleague forever
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
November 27 2012 19:10 GMT
#232
The foreign team better not do embarrassingly bad if they're going to be stuck there for 6 rounds...
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-27 19:10:56
November 27 2012 19:10 GMT
#233
On November 28 2012 03:55 CV-Mackh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 03:51 lavosprime wrote:
On November 28 2012 03:36 CV-Mackh wrote:
May this tournament be a dramatic failure as the sad MLG-Kespa thing,

Do you realize that if an entire year-long season of Proleague is a dramatic failure, a huge chunk of Korean SC2 eSports probably falls apart?



Then this tournament should definitly exclude the top players in Korea by refusing to seed ESF that makes sense

So you still don't understand difference between GSL/OSL and GSTL/PL. Hint for you, former are individual leagues and in both of them Kespa and ESF players can participate. Latter ones are teamleagues and I did not see even one Kespa team in GSTL ? So what are you talking about?
WackaAlpaca
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada208 Posts
November 27 2012 19:11 GMT
#234
ROOT!

ROOT!

Root gonna be the foreign team!!!!!! YEAAA
"
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
November 27 2012 19:11 GMT
#235
On November 28 2012 04:10 a176 wrote:
It sucks to hear its a year long, but its for the best, since most kespa players are still pretty much new to SC2. Gives players that time to catch up.

And hey, we will probably see a larger map rotation!


They were "new" half a year ago. They have caught up. I don't see the problem with it being a year long to be honest, if anything tournaments were too short, not too long.
Balgrog
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1221 Posts
November 27 2012 19:12 GMT
#236
Soooo I REALLY hope this is Liquid, like really really REALLY badly. Ideally EG but they don't have the roster to stand up in this kind of thing quite yet, so let's go liquid!
The only way to attack structure is with chaos.
Hardigan
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1297 Posts
November 27 2012 19:12 GMT
#237
On November 28 2012 04:02 sHt_ wrote:
I'd so much love Axiom (3 players) to team up with any other team for this!
Something along the line of Ryung, Crank, Mya, Taeja, Hero, Zenio and Sea would be a line-up i'd cheer for more than any other!

that "foreigner" team...
aristarchus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States652 Posts
November 27 2012 19:12 GMT
#238
They'll do one round and then consider the schedule based on expanded foreign participation? How do you add a team mid-season? I'm very confused.
TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
November 27 2012 19:24 GMT
#239
Can't wait for the next season most people are guessing EG as the other team which is quite possible. I hope it'll be a great season I know I'll be watching!
Sc2 Caster | Host of Sc2 Up & Coming | The Godfather of Team LXG | Sc2 Historian | Youtube.com/NanMan | Twitch.tv/TheRealNanMan | Twitter.com/TheRealNanMan |
winthrop
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Hong Kong956 Posts
November 27 2012 19:27 GMT
#240
fnatic maybe
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