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Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
November 13 2012 01:12 GMT
#141
Liquid hwaiting! Best story would be for HerO to defend his title.
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
November 13 2012 01:15 GMT
#142
On November 13 2012 08:45 00Visor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 08:29 Gianttt wrote:
While although Fraer has the same small favored as Stephano he will not be able to beat TheSTC.


I don't really understand that sentence, but fraer did beat TheSTC at Dreamhack Bucharest.
I feel fraer is still strongly underrated. Too bad he has such a difficult group. He still can beat TheSTC and has a shot against Stephano/Taeja.

Fraer is actually a PvZ specialist. I would favor him over any korean zerg bar for Life, Leenock, Symbol and HyuN.
Repomies
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland73 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-13 01:28:13
November 13 2012 01:27 GMT
#143
Fairly interesting groups. Was hoping to see Polt or other korean super terrans. Thumbs up for Elfi and Naama to advance through BYOC
ZeBigMarn
Profile Joined July 2012
Australia30 Posts
November 13 2012 01:49 GMT
#144
So many mirror matches, Tank lines everywhere in group 1, 4gates in group 2 and ling/bling in group 3. Can't wait to see what innovations they will try in these mirrors to be unexpected.
More GG More Skill
Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
November 13 2012 01:51 GMT
#145
On November 13 2012 08:45 00Visor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 08:29 Gianttt wrote:
While although Fraer has the same small favored as Stephano he will not be able to beat TheSTC.


I don't really understand that sentence, but fraer did beat TheSTC at Dreamhack Bucharest.
I feel fraer is still strongly underrated. Too bad he has such a difficult group. He still can beat TheSTC and has a shot against Stephano/Taeja.


STC is overall a very good player but can't seem to continue that on foreign soil - Last 2 MLG's, Bucharest and Lone Star he was quite awful so based on that 3rd place will be a toss-up between them 2 but saying he has a shot vs Taeja or Stephano is highly over-optimistic
Wyrd
Profile Joined May 2011
United States211 Posts
November 13 2012 01:55 GMT
#146
Group 1 is sick.
www.twitch.tv/wyrd5
alainysaur
Profile Joined September 2012
United States131 Posts
November 13 2012 02:05 GMT
#147
Hope Thorzain gets thru group 4 >.>
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28095 Posts
November 13 2012 02:08 GMT
#148
On November 13 2012 11:05 alainysaur wrote:
Hope Thorzain gets thru group 4 >.>

It will be tough, but I hope he does too.
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Ksquared
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1748 Posts
November 13 2012 02:10 GMT
#149
Hero has no luck when it comes to groups
eSports for life.
Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-13 02:12:46
November 13 2012 02:12 GMT
#150
Surprising how nobody's wanting ForGG to make it out of group 4.

First -> FORGG FIGHTING! The pretender will crush faces! YEAH!
Sorathez
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia209 Posts
November 13 2012 02:19 GMT
#151
My picks (in no particular order):
1. Stephano, TaeJa, TheSTC
2. MaNa, SaSe, Bly
3. Nerchio, DIMAGA, TargA (gogo TargA Bane Train)
4. Naniwa, HerO, ThorZaIN
There's no sense crying over every mistake. You just keep trying till you run out of cake.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
November 13 2012 02:25 GMT
#152
On November 13 2012 09:52 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 09:29 nkr wrote:
How come no americans made the trip for DH? Surely it would be a tournament you would want to participate in O_o

Why would they come? Financially it makes no sense as their chances wouldn't be too great and flight over atlantic is not that cheap.


sorry, i forgot americans arent actually competitors :s
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
November 13 2012 02:34 GMT
#153
wow group 1 and group 4 are nuts. So many players i like i don't know who to root for >><<
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
November 13 2012 02:35 GMT
#154
On November 13 2012 11:25 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 09:52 nimdil wrote:
On November 13 2012 09:29 nkr wrote:
How come no americans made the trip for DH? Surely it would be a tournament you would want to participate in O_o

Why would they come? Financially it makes no sense as their chances wouldn't be too great and flight over atlantic is not that cheap.


sorry, i forgot americans arent actually competitors :s


It's not like we see huge groups of Europeans at MLGs either. At the end of the day, there are real life restrictions.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-13 02:43:56
November 13 2012 02:42 GMT
#155
Group 4 is pretty easy to predict:
HerO, ForGG, Naniwa

Ret stands 0 chance in this group, thorzain is inconsistent, hero has slaughtered naniwa @ pvp before, hero has strong pvt & any pvz he plays is good enough to beat ret, forgg is overall quite strong and should get 2nd.

@Ksquared
HerO's group is not bad at all, he's only struggling vs zergs, his pvt and pvp are quite strong(his pvp has improved a lot)
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Beserk020
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada1 Post
November 13 2012 02:46 GMT
#156
Hope Monchi's PvZ is good haha
KookyMonster
Profile Joined January 2012
United States311 Posts
November 13 2012 02:56 GMT
#157
Group 4 is insane...
Paper is Imba. Scissors is fine. -Rock
VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
November 13 2012 03:02 GMT
#158
I was thinking to myself when I read group 1, shit that's a hard group. Then I saw group 4. Holy fuckballs.
AKomrade
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States582 Posts
November 13 2012 03:06 GMT
#159
Four is Swedish for death apparently.
ALL HAIL THE KING IN THE NORTH! HAIL! HAIL!
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
November 13 2012 03:17 GMT
#160
Taeja, Stephano, TheSTC
Mana, Bly, SaSe
Nerchio, TLO, Targa
NaNiwa, ForGG, HerO

boom predictions gogo
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