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kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 22:25:51
November 12 2012 22:22 GMT
#101
On November 13 2012 06:36 tMomiji wrote:
Oh GOD, poor HerO, yet another group of death. T_T

it's a tough one but I'll take it over zerg heavy groups at the moment
609_uu
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland8 Posts
November 12 2012 22:24 GMT
#102
Quite many swedes in the groups although there probably could've been some better players. Like Naama, ELFITTAJA, Satiini or Serral. It's very nice for the swedish home audience though.
GL HF !
Zhromar
Profile Joined November 2012
United States24 Posts
November 12 2012 22:26 GMT
#103
Pretty crazy groups I don't think anyone can predict even the finals or the winner of this.
So many players that could win a certain match up and players.
dota2
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
November 12 2012 22:28 GMT
#104
Holy group 4

pooor naniwa
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3769 Posts
November 12 2012 22:32 GMT
#105
Wow, MaNa's and Nerchio's groups - compared to ThorZaIN's and TaeJa's - are walk in the park. Good for my countrymen
JtoK
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany232 Posts
November 12 2012 22:33 GMT
#106
Stephano could take the whole event! So strong now!
But dont forget the koreans. everyone of them is possible to win DH winter.
Soma.bokforlag
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden448 Posts
November 12 2012 22:33 GMT
#107
wow.. group 4.. sad, but i dont think nani and t-zain will be able to top the koreans
brieN
Profile Joined November 2011
United States158 Posts
November 12 2012 22:39 GMT
#108
group 2 and 3 seem a lot easier than 1 and 4, should be 1 korean in each group...
check yo self befo yo wreck yo self
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3769 Posts
November 12 2012 22:42 GMT
#109
Korean oriented distribution of players? :D Not gonna happen. Maybe they should put all of them in one group and call it survival of the fittest.
Dr. Steve Brule
Profile Joined January 2012
Wales152 Posts
November 12 2012 22:49 GMT
#110
not a single NA player...
fam
Interstellar
Profile Joined May 2012
Mexico67 Posts
November 12 2012 22:53 GMT
#111
Can't think of a single NA player that could compete amongst these groups. I always watch ForGG's stream. He has an exciting, aggressive style. He took some games off Taeja in a finals of a tournament recently. Would be nice to see him take a whole tournament for once.
El que es chingon, es chingon.
era909
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden139 Posts
November 12 2012 22:55 GMT
#112
On November 13 2012 07:24 609_uu wrote:
Quite many swedes in the groups although there probably could've been some better players. Like Naama, ELFITTAJA, Satiini or Serral. It's very nice for the swedish home audience though.
GL HF !


Then they should have been at the previous events and earned qualification points/spots.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 12 2012 22:58 GMT
#113
nice groups! :o
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
November 12 2012 23:05 GMT
#114
On November 13 2012 07:49 Dr. Steve Brule wrote:
not a single NA player...


Full line-up was determined by qualification. And not a NA-player made it to the top-8 in a DH this year.
Raiquer
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden98 Posts
November 12 2012 23:08 GMT
#115
My predictions:
1. Stephano, Taeja, TheSTC
2. Sase, Mana, StarnaN
3. Nerchio, TLO, Dimaga
4. Naniwa, ThorZaiN, HerO
Slayers_Boxer, Mvp, Flash, Fantasy, Nestea, Jinro, Naniwa, Thorzain, Jaedong, DongRaeGu, White-ra, Sase, Haypro, Nada, Tastosis, Day[9], IM and KT Fighting!
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3769 Posts
November 12 2012 23:09 GMT
#116
On November 13 2012 07:49 Dr. Steve Brule wrote:
not a single NA player...

There are no players from any China, SEA and South America as well. I don't see a problem. The only "problem" is that there are no koreans from non-korean teams. The only player who qualified - Polt - decided not to attend. I would love to see Life, Rain or Leenock in Europe.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
November 12 2012 23:11 GMT
#117
i'm only going to be watching groups 1 and 4. not because of the players, just because i can't stand pvz zvzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz and coinflips
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3703 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 23:23:12
November 12 2012 23:22 GMT
#118
On November 13 2012 04:23 -Strider- wrote:
Holy group 4


Pretty much, I guess I know which tournament I'll follow more closely between IEM and Dreamhack (though the fact that IEM is in Singapore really makes me wanna watch), group 4 is just way too good.

@nimdil: You won't see Rain or any kespa player at any non-mlg event anytime soon, mlg has exclusive rights and I highly doubt that they will give up their "kespa factor" any time soon.
Gianttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands194 Posts
November 12 2012 23:29 GMT
#119
My bets
1.Stephano, Taeja, TheSTC, Fraer, Sjow
2.Mana, Bly, StarNaN, Socke, SaSe
3.Nerchio, Monchi, Targa, TLO, Dimaga
4.Thorzain, ForGG, Naniwa, Hero, Ret

My perspective
Group 1
Stephano has three terrans in his group and one protoss which can give him a small favor, also because he's doing well lately.
Taeja is for me the favored over TheSTC, Fraer and Sjow. While although Fraer has the same small favored as Stephano he will not be able to beat TheSTC.
Looking at SjoW lately I don't think he's able to beat even one of the players, maybe taking one game.

Group 2
At first I said Bly first place, but I think Mana won't let him do that. StarNaN is doing well lately and will beat both Socke and SaSe in PvP, while I think I will give Mana a small favor over StarNaN, but had to think three times before saying.
Bly will have an more easier shout because he just has to practice against Protoss, although he only had a few successes lately.

Group 3
Looking at the results Monchi did well against Nerchio in the past, but even when Nerchio losses again this time will favor the group, cause his ZvZ is mighty enough to take down both TLO and Targa.
Having watched some of TLO's games lately, I think I will favor Targa above TLO for this tournament. And Dimaga might take a game, but won't win a single bo3 unfortunately, cause he's a great guy.

Group 4
Seeing the luck that Ret doesn't have in all tournaments I put him last, but he's still a great player, I just can't look in his practicescheme.
Thorzain will beat both Ret, Naniwa and ForGG only losing to Hero.
But Hero will lose to both Naniwa and ForGG, while ForGG beats Ret and NaNiwa.
That makes the group clear.

The BYOC
From the BYOC participants so far I think Elfi, Sage, Ziktomini and Sortof will advance, but still depends on the bracket.
But I also guess Giant will pass.... oh wait :D


Going to Dreamhack it will be fun watching my bets and the real outcome, but the players I said will qualify, the groups will be far different, especially the one having Elfi and Sage.
Winners: It is difficult, but it's possible.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8313 Posts
November 12 2012 23:30 GMT
#120
I can't decide between group one and four at all...

Poll: Group of Death?

Group Four (20)
 
54%

Group One (13)
 
35%

Group Three (3)
 
8%

Group Two (1)
 
3%

37 total votes

Your vote: Group of Death?

(Vote): Group One
(Vote): Group Two
(Vote): Group Three
(Vote): Group Four


I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
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