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Grubby's Manifesto on SC2 / eSports - Page 2
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DarthDronus
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MysteryMeat1
United States3291 Posts
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Cuce
Turkey1127 Posts
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
Only thing i could disagreed with is the conclusion which is to have faith in Blizzard. I have lost faith in Blizzard already. When SC1 was released and BW was released, Blizzard was still a indie company. Even when WC3/Frozen Throne released,Blizzard actually wanted to make good games for the community. Those were their best games. But now times has changed.Developer of SC1/BW,WC3/Frozen Throne have long left the company. Blizzard got acquired by Activision. The Blizzard right now is only looking for profit and not actually wanting to make the game better for e-sports. | ||
itsjustatank
Hong Kong9153 Posts
On October 19 2012 15:41 Grubby wrote: Which is why I said finances are important. As I think shone through, I consider it unlikely that this would happen. I didn't know about the illegal/exemption thing though, that's interesting. Though I have to say, that eSports doesn't necessarily go by the same laws that we recognize in the Real World. I understand your passion about this, but the companies in our scene still have to abide by the laws and regulations of the jurisdictions in which they operate or they will get hit with massive fines and risk criminal sanction. As for exemptions to antitrust law, a common example made by people who have similarly called for the creation of an organization has been the National Football League. The Sports Broadcasting Act of 1961 gives them statutory exemption from the antitrust law in the United States, because they had been found in violation of it by our court system, and the legislature wanted it rectified. Organizations like FIFA are limited to governing only the Olympic expression of the sport. | ||
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Discarder
Philippines411 Posts
I can't help but commend OP by being so positive about everything that written here. This is the bottom line in everything, just thinking and acting positive. I'm not losing my faith, I'm sure blizzard will hear us. I still enjoy playing sc2, (playing BL/infestor deathballs haha) But I'm sure blizzard will do something to make casual players pour in. Bbout E-Sports media, I don't know, these are all different people with different agenda, good or bad. As a positive thinker, I think we can only ask them nicely to give players a chance when they do/say something questionable... really, media is a double edged sword. | ||
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Vermiiifuuge
Korea (South)112 Posts
<3, nice post, although you're giving people in giving people in general too much credit as far as being reasonable and able to use common sense goes. | ||
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Gonozal
Germany320 Posts
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XXXSmOke
United States1333 Posts
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Schickysc
Canada380 Posts
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EatThePath
United States3943 Posts
On October 19 2012 15:29 Son of Gnome wrote: Great job Grubby  I totally read it in your voice btw ^^lol ditto XD Well done Grubby | ||
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Grubby
Netherlands318 Posts
On October 19 2012 15:47 Vermiiifuuge wrote: There is something very rotten in the state of esports when a top foreigner has time to write this instead of practicing. + Show Spoiler + <3, nice post, although you're giving people in giving people in general too much credit as far as being reasonable and able to use common sense goes. Sometimes you have to get something off your chest and weigh in on issues which concern the thing you love, eSports. Whether it will make a difference, I can't predict. But I can't just stand on the sideline. I will go back to practicing now, thank you for your concern. May I go have lunch first?  On October 19 2012 15:48 XXXSmOke wrote: I like your post, but honestly this is a bit wierd, in 2 days we have 5 different pro-gramers all posting about the games problems . We all know of the problems, but something is a bit fishy when we have 5 of them post in 2 days. Well it's a bit of a chain reaction. If you think it's weird, that probably makes it weird. Imagine if you didn't think it's weird, then it wouldn't be weird. It's just logical. We all start a-thinking and the post keep a-coming. | ||
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Vermiiifuuge
Korea (South)112 Posts
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Rabiator
Germany3948 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
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EnderCraft
United States1746 Posts
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Protagoras
United States4 Posts
In particular, I LOVE the idea of a Liquipedia show. I imagine it in the same vein as ESPN but not daily. I would suggest a once a week show linked on Liquipedia and TL and streamed through twitch (support those who support us). Create a series of highlights (top 10 plays) while going through each MAJOR match of the past week (I imagine, GSL's and there Could be longer specials covering MLGs and DHs). What I've noticed alot in "hightlight" videos in eSports is that they use the original commentary. but the reason ESPN works SO well is because they have their anchors give the context for the situation. That way you know how important the plays they're showing are (even if the play they show is a giant mistake). And obviously, the Commentary from the game is just as important in a LOT of cases. (it would also be cool, if the actual video they show is directly recorded from a replay, that way if there was an Observer mistake or a building being made ends up being a focal point of the game, you can show the players building that particular building) All of the Above, would require immense amount of work and talent from both the Community, and from the people who end up doing it. I believe though, if a highlight show was aired once a week, it could have a MASSIVE viewership each week. (imagine every unique viewer for Day9 dailies throughout the week all watching the ONE highlight show on like a saturday at a time that is Good for both NA and EU) There is some SERIOUS potential for that. | ||
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RTSDealer
286 Posts
If they went the free to play route and charging for: - Custom portraits - Decals - Campaign - Name Change - Clans They could potentially earn more money than charging a one time fee of 40 USD. By doing this, Blizzard would also be forced to maintain a certain quality to the game and be more open to consumer feedback if their income was proportional to how good the game is. Look at Valve and Dota 2 - a good model that Blizzard can implement. If Blizzard wants to have a sustainable scene for SC2, it's something they can't ignore. I'm pretty certain that I'm not alone in feeling that SC2 hasn't lived up to the quality that WC3 TFT had in terms of features and capturing a life-long fan. The game just does not have the same immersion factor that both Starcraft and WC3 had. Granted, I only got SC2 just for the multiplayer but for every gamer who wants to go and train hardcore, there are a lot more people who get a game just for the story / campaign. I played other RTS but they were just for fun - I always found myself returning to SC:BW up until Warcraft 3 DotA. Hopefully, Blizzard does good in the expansion - seeing how both TFT and BW improved the base game. If it does not. Well... it isn't 1998 anymore - there are a whole lot more good PC games to play nowadays. | ||
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Conut
Canada1026 Posts
SaSes 99 cents about the… The "Do your part for SC… Slayers to disband The Starcraft Crisis Ryung to Axiom & MMA dec What is going on with the sc2 community lately, every seems to think the world is falling apart. But yea i do agree with pretty much everything i see, we dont need auto mine blizzard. | ||
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Yello
Germany7411 Posts
Of course we shouldn't agree blindly with everything Blizzard does but in the last few days the complaints were a little bit too much I think. A lot of people seem to think that SC2 is going down and is almost hopelessly lost. On the other hand we just had WCS Europe with more viewers then any other non-Korean SC2 event ever before (I think, not quite sure about this). We also have Blizzard giving proof that they are actively listening to the community. I think SC2 is still growing. Not as fast as before but we didn't reach our peak yet and in my opinion there is no reason for the extreme end-of-the-world-atmosphere we have at the moment. | ||
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