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On October 19 2012 14:41 jmbthirteen wrote:
I doubt we will ever know the truth about this entire mess, but believing Jessica 100% is being naive. Sorry but when you have what, 10 players leave your team, something seems wrong. Whether they left on "good terms" or not, there is obviously something that makes them want to leave. Ganzi, Taeja, Crank, Sleep, Golden just straight up left. SlayerS went from the premier sc2 team to an afterthought. Hell Puzzle, Coca and Min left SlayerS to go and play LoL. Something was not right there. And I highly doubt Jessica was such the victim she has made herself out to be.
Yet the downfall of Slayers isn't mysterious either. We know that Slayers got blacklisted by ESF and that things went downhill after hiring this J guy.
All those players left for foreigner teams, which doesn't exactly scream a breakdown in slayers management.
I agree about Jessica though, shes not 100% the victim here and is definitely responsible (as team manager) for the downfall of Slayers.
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I love EG but who wouldn;t love to see LiquidMMA!!!!
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I would only join EG if they kicked off incontrol, maybe even idra.... mean, yea, but lets be realistic incontrol is never gonna even get close to winning a tournament, and seriously idra 3-39 vs. kespa players... you've been practicing maybe 2 and a half years straight, how are you so bad... I can guarantee there is no genetic difference between the you and the koreans.... its all the environment...that environment is EG....
And MMA you used to be one of my favs... GL where ever you go!
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On October 19 2012 15:34 My_Fake_Plastic_Luv wrote:
I would only join EG if they kicked off incontrol, maybe even idra.... mean, yea, but lets be realistic incontrol is never gonna even get close to winning a tournament, and seriously idra 3-39 vs. kespa players... you've been practicing maybe 2 and a half years straight, how are you so bad... I can guarantee there is no genetic difference between the you and the koreans.... its all the environment...that environment is EG....
And MMA you used to be one of my favs... GL where ever you go!
EG is keeping incontrol cuz he has other uses like casting, commercials and hosting events
which provides a lot of exposure for them.
But i agree with you on him not winning any tournmanets in the future.
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On October 19 2012 15:34 My_Fake_Plastic_Luv wrote:
I would only join EG if they kicked off incontrol, maybe even idra.... mean, yea, but lets be realistic incontrol is never gonna even get close to winning a tournament, and seriously idra 3-39 vs. kespa players... you've been practicing maybe 2 and a half years straight, how are you so bad... I can guarantee there is no genetic difference between the you and the koreans.... its all the environment...that environment is EG....
And MMA you used to be one of my favs... GL where ever you go!
Random EG bashing nice, also Idra forfeited part way into the MLG Kespa tourney.
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On October 19 2012 15:42 Phobbers wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2012 15:34 My_Fake_Plastic_Luv wrote:
I would only join EG if they kicked off incontrol, maybe even idra.... mean, yea, but lets be realistic incontrol is never gonna even get close to winning a tournament, and seriously idra 3-39 vs. kespa players... you've been practicing maybe 2 and a half years straight, how are you so bad... I can guarantee there is no genetic difference between the you and the koreans.... its all the environment...that environment is EG....
And MMA you used to be one of my favs... GL where ever you go! Random EG bashing nice, also Idra forfeited part way into the MLG Kespa tourney.
And forfeiting is just soo much better I guess... Really I know I am being harsh, but I just want my North American Superstars back... huk, idra, even puma, yall use to compete at the highest level and now...... I don't know it seems like EG just buys another player after their other players start under-performing (hmmm stephano)... Anyhow EG fighting
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From a business stand point, why would Axiom go after MMA when they could probably pick up multiple former Slayers for the same price? Arthur, Dark, Brown, and Miya have definitely proven that they're on the level. Axiom would be an instant top team if they could pull that off.
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Just how much money does EG have, dayum! They desperately need a good Terran though..
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EG ffs. After the SlayerS downfall the guy deserves a team that cares for him and provides some stability. Might even lower my utter dislike for EG.
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On October 19 2012 14:41 jmbthirteen wrote:
I doubt we will ever know the truth about this entire mess, but believing Jessica 100% is being naive. Sorry but when you have what, 10 players leave your team, something seems wrong. Whether they left on "good terms" or not, there is obviously something that makes them want to leave. Ganzi, Taeja, Crank, Sleep, Golden just straight up left. SlayerS went from the premier sc2 team to an afterthought. Hell Puzzle, Coca and Min left SlayerS to go and play LoL. Something was not right there. And I highly doubt Jessica was such the victim she has made herself out to be.
Don't think you can read too much into those departures though, leaving the game entirely doesn't make it seem like it was a SlayerS problem... Sleep and Golden left during a time when things were much different, SlayerS Terrans pretty much saturated the lineup to the point where other players had 0 chance of playing. (MMA, Ryung, Ganzi, TaeJa, who wouldn't you play in a bo7 lol)
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On October 19 2012 15:58 My_Fake_Plastic_Luv wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2012 15:42 Phobbers wrote:On October 19 2012 15:34 My_Fake_Plastic_Luv wrote:
I would only join EG if they kicked off incontrol, maybe even idra.... mean, yea, but lets be realistic incontrol is never gonna even get close to winning a tournament, and seriously idra 3-39 vs. kespa players... you've been practicing maybe 2 and a half years straight, how are you so bad... I can guarantee there is no genetic difference between the you and the koreans.... its all the environment...that environment is EG....
And MMA you used to be one of my favs... GL where ever you go! Random EG bashing nice, also Idra forfeited part way into the MLG Kespa tourney. And forfeiting is just soo much better I guess... Really I know I am being harsh, but I just want my North American Superstars back... huk, idra, even puma, yall use to compete at the highest level and now...... I don't know it seems like EG just buys another player after their other players start under-performing (hmmm stephano)... Anyhow EG fighting
im sorry, but you are not "harsh" or "mean". You are either stupid, clueless or a hater.
clueless: you have no idea about EG, what they do for their players and community and no idea why Incontrol is important.
stupid: you really think that Incontrol is not important to EG. He IS EG. He is the face of EG and most of the time their spokesperson. Many fans follow EG just because of Incontrol. He is always out there. He gives character to EG and is more or less the team captain.
And about Idra, i think you need to listen to ITG (1-2 weeks ago) where he said why he hated the mlg tournament and only agreed/stayed that long because he respects the Kespa guys. And yes, there is a difference between forfeiting a game and losing it. The first one doesn't say anything about the skill of the player.
Hater: You all know that stuff i wrote here but still have the need to bash EG and their players. Because this is a thread about MMA and Ryung which doesn't have something to do with how good Idra and Incontrol are, i assume you are just a hater.
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On October 19 2012 15:34 My_Fake_Plastic_Luv wrote:
I would only join EG if they kicked off incontrol, maybe even idra.... mean, yea, but lets be realistic incontrol is never gonna even get close to winning a tournament, and seriously idra 3-39 vs. kespa players... you've been practicing maybe 2 and a half years straight, how are you so bad... I can guarantee there is no genetic difference between the you and the koreans.... its all the environment...that environment is EG....
And MMA you used to be one of my favs... GL where ever you go!
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Idra idk, but Incontrol is probably their biggest asset atm with all the stuff he does outside the game
edited to clear things out
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how many slayers switched to LoL?
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On October 19 2012 21:10 TaShadan wrote:
how many slayers switched to LoL?
I believe 3.
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On October 19 2012 21:10 TaShadan wrote:
how many slayers switched to LoL?
Puzzle, Coca, & Min
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On October 19 2012 20:17 n0ise wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2012 15:34 My_Fake_Plastic_Luv wrote:
I would only join EG if they kicked off incontrol, maybe even idra.... mean, yea, but lets be realistic incontrol is never gonna even get close to winning a tournament, and seriously idra 3-39 vs. kespa players... you've been practicing maybe 2 and a half years straight, how are you so bad... I can guarantee there is no genetic difference between the you and the koreans.... its all the environment...that environment is EG....
And MMA you used to be one of my favs... GL where ever you go!
User was warned for this post Idra idk, but Incontrol is probably their biggest asset atm with all the stuff he does outside the game edited to clear things out
EG's biggest asset can be determined by looking at who get's the biggest salary. It is Stephano.
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On October 20 2012 05:26 revel8 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2012 20:17 n0ise wrote:On October 19 2012 15:34 My_Fake_Plastic_Luv wrote:
I would only join EG if they kicked off incontrol, maybe even idra.... mean, yea, but lets be realistic incontrol is never gonna even get close to winning a tournament, and seriously idra 3-39 vs. kespa players... you've been practicing maybe 2 and a half years straight, how are you so bad... I can guarantee there is no genetic difference between the you and the koreans.... its all the environment...that environment is EG....
And MMA you used to be one of my favs... GL where ever you go!
User was warned for this post Idra idk, but Incontrol is probably their biggest asset atm with all the stuff he does outside the game edited to clear things out EG's biggest asset can be determined by looking at who get's the biggest salary. It is Stephano.
Where did you find how much money all the players make? I'd be interested in looking at that. Did I miss something?
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On October 20 2012 06:04 Golbat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 05:26 revel8 wrote:On October 19 2012 20:17 n0ise wrote:On October 19 2012 15:34 My_Fake_Plastic_Luv wrote:
I would only join EG if they kicked off incontrol, maybe even idra.... mean, yea, but lets be realistic incontrol is never gonna even get close to winning a tournament, and seriously idra 3-39 vs. kespa players... you've been practicing maybe 2 and a half years straight, how are you so bad... I can guarantee there is no genetic difference between the you and the koreans.... its all the environment...that environment is EG....
And MMA you used to be one of my favs... GL where ever you go!
User was warned for this post Idra idk, but Incontrol is probably their biggest asset atm with all the stuff he does outside the game edited to clear things out EG's biggest asset can be determined by looking at who get's the biggest salary. It is Stephano. Where did you find how much money all the players make? I'd be interested in looking at that. Did I miss something?
EG's salaries are confidential obviously, but considering Stephano is the most popular streamer, and the most consistent and successful Foreigner in 2012 it must be him. Who else has such a strong bargaining position during negotiations? EG recently won a bidding war for Stephano. Who else do you think is the highest paid player on EG's books?
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On October 20 2012 06:35 revel8 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 06:04 Golbat wrote:On October 20 2012 05:26 revel8 wrote:On October 19 2012 20:17 n0ise wrote:On October 19 2012 15:34 My_Fake_Plastic_Luv wrote:
I would only join EG if they kicked off incontrol, maybe even idra.... mean, yea, but lets be realistic incontrol is never gonna even get close to winning a tournament, and seriously idra 3-39 vs. kespa players... you've been practicing maybe 2 and a half years straight, how are you so bad... I can guarantee there is no genetic difference between the you and the koreans.... its all the environment...that environment is EG....
And MMA you used to be one of my favs... GL where ever you go!
User was warned for this post Idra idk, but Incontrol is probably their biggest asset atm with all the stuff he does outside the game edited to clear things out EG's biggest asset can be determined by looking at who get's the biggest salary. It is Stephano. Where did you find how much money all the players make? I'd be interested in looking at that. Did I miss something? EG's salaries are confidential obviously, but considering Stephano is the most popular streamer, and the most consistent and successful Foreigner in 2012 it must be him. Who else has such a strong bargaining position during negotiations? EG recently won a bidding war for Stephano. Who else do you think is the highest paid player on EG's books?
Well, you can't just think in terms of results when you're talking about EG. I would think their highest paid players are iNcontroL, IdrA, and then maybe Stephano. It's all about ROI and sponsor marketability. Stephano just got suspended without pay for the rest of the month because of something he did which could have caused a HUGE backlash with EG's sponsors, if they didn't have such a good reputation with them (which is one of the reasons they punished Stephano so harshly). I agree with the person you quoted who said iNcontroL is their biggest asset. He does all sorts of out of game stuff for EG that increases their brand, even though winning tournaments isn't one of those things. If all Stephano does is win tournaments but acts like an ass everywhere else, he certainly won't be their biggest asset, and perhaps even a liability.
That being said, I sincerely hope that MMA decides on EG and soon. But best of luck to Both teams and MMA either way!
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On October 20 2012 06:35 revel8 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 06:04 Golbat wrote:On October 20 2012 05:26 revel8 wrote:On October 19 2012 20:17 n0ise wrote:On October 19 2012 15:34 My_Fake_Plastic_Luv wrote:
I would only join EG if they kicked off incontrol, maybe even idra.... mean, yea, but lets be realistic incontrol is never gonna even get close to winning a tournament, and seriously idra 3-39 vs. kespa players... you've been practicing maybe 2 and a half years straight, how are you so bad... I can guarantee there is no genetic difference between the you and the koreans.... its all the environment...that environment is EG....
And MMA you used to be one of my favs... GL where ever you go!
User was warned for this post Idra idk, but Incontrol is probably their biggest asset atm with all the stuff he does outside the game edited to clear things out EG's biggest asset can be determined by looking at who get's the biggest salary. It is Stephano. Where did you find how much money all the players make? I'd be interested in looking at that. Did I miss something? EG's salaries are confidential obviously, but considering Stephano is the most popular streamer, and the most consistent and successful Foreigner in 2012 it must be him. Who else has such a strong bargaining position during negotiations? EG recently won a bidding war for Stephano. Who else do you think is the highest paid player on EG's books?
And how do you think EG got the money to give Stephano that massive paycheck?
Despite what the TL community believes, EG does not simply have money, they earn it by doing a lot of work to please their sponsors and sign new ones. And Incontrol is the player that, by an extreme margin, does the most to promote his team and his sponsors.
Does Incontrol get paid the most? Probably not. But I can almost guarantee that his salary:RoI ratio is the highest on EG, short of possibly Idra.
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