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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 03:45:17
October 18 2012 03:43 GMT
#321
On October 18 2012 12:40 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 12:39 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On October 18 2012 12:35 bittman wrote:
On October 18 2012 12:31 -niL wrote:
I am confused even more, MVP tweeted that he has never seen such a kind and dedicated player like MMA and wishes the misunderstanding to be cleared up


Relationships between people are the most subjective thing around. Jessica might think he's a pest. MVP might think he's like a second son to him.

I imagine that there are two sides to every story.



Thing is I would take Mvp's word over Jessica's, hell most people probably would.

And will you take Mvp's word over Boxer's?



That depends on what's true, if Boxer is only following what his wife says because she is his wife then, yes I would take Mvp's word over Boxer's, and if Mvp is saying MMA is kind, and dedicated what does that say about the Slayers training environment? Maybe it was terrible? a lot of players disliked it seems. Normally I would trust what Boxer said but there were a lot of internal problems with Slayers, as this whole fiasco showed us(if there wasn't internal problems with Slayers this wouldn't have happened)
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Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
October 18 2012 03:44 GMT
#322
On October 18 2012 12:40 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 12:39 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On October 18 2012 12:35 bittman wrote:
On October 18 2012 12:31 -niL wrote:
I am confused even more, MVP tweeted that he has never seen such a kind and dedicated player like MMA and wishes the misunderstanding to be cleared up


Relationships between people are the most subjective thing around. Jessica might think he's a pest. MVP might think he's like a second son to him.

I imagine that there are two sides to every story.



Thing is I would take Mvp's word over Jessica's, hell most people probably would.

And will you take Mvp's word over Boxer's?

Boxer's word as told by Jessica...
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 03:45:51
October 18 2012 03:44 GMT
#323
On October 18 2012 12:40 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 12:39 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On October 18 2012 12:35 bittman wrote:
On October 18 2012 12:31 -niL wrote:
I am confused even more, MVP tweeted that he has never seen such a kind and dedicated player like MMA and wishes the misunderstanding to be cleared up


Relationships between people are the most subjective thing around. Jessica might think he's a pest. MVP might think he's like a second son to him.

I imagine that there are two sides to every story.



Thing is I would take Mvp's word over Jessica's, hell most people probably would.

And will you take Mvp's word over Boxer's?

Maybe he's both bad to team spirit and a really kind and dedicated player at the same time
Although that would raise a lot of questions about the training they had

EDIT: And I don't think BoxeR specifically told a 3rd party that MMA was bad to team spirit? afaik it's all been Jessica minding the PR, and I don't believe in one-sided stories.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
-niL
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1131 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 03:47:02
October 18 2012 03:44 GMT
#324
On October 18 2012 12:43 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 12:40 babylon wrote:
On October 18 2012 12:39 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On October 18 2012 12:35 bittman wrote:
On October 18 2012 12:31 -niL wrote:
I am confused even more, MVP tweeted that he has never seen such a kind and dedicated player like MMA and wishes the misunderstanding to be cleared up


Relationships between people are the most subjective thing around. Jessica might think he's a pest. MVP might think he's like a second son to him.

I imagine that there are two sides to every story.



Thing is I would take Mvp's word over Jessica's, hell most people probably would.

And will you take Mvp's word over Boxer's?



That depends on what's true, if Boxer is only following what his wife says because she is his wife then, yes I would take Mvp's word over Boxer's, and if Mvp is saying MMA is kind, and dedicated what does that say about the Slayers training environment? Maybe it was terrible? a lot of players disliked it seems.

Arghh, I wish BoxeR and MMA also gave their personal thoughts and words
Edit: And seeing how couple of other pros retweeted MVP's tweet (PartinG, Tassadar to name a few), MVP's words have power
lambac0re
Profile Joined August 2011
United States77 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 03:47:43
October 18 2012 03:47 GMT
#325
On October 18 2012 12:43 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 12:40 babylon wrote:
On October 18 2012 12:39 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On October 18 2012 12:35 bittman wrote:
On October 18 2012 12:31 -niL wrote:
I am confused even more, MVP tweeted that he has never seen such a kind and dedicated player like MMA and wishes the misunderstanding to be cleared up


Relationships between people are the most subjective thing around. Jessica might think he's a pest. MVP might think he's like a second son to him.

I imagine that there are two sides to every story.



Thing is I would take Mvp's word over Jessica's, hell most people probably would.

And will you take Mvp's word over Boxer's?



That depends on what's true, if Boxer is only following what his wife says because she is his wife then, yes I would take Mvp's word over Boxer's, and if Mvp is saying MMA is kind, and dedicated what does that say about the Slayers training environment? Maybe it was terrible? a lot of players disliked it seems. Normally I would trust what Boxer said but there were a lot of internal problems with Slayers, as this whole fiasco showed us(if there wasn't internal problems with Slayers this wouldn't have happened)


Boxer always lived in the training house before his subsequent injury, you don't think he's fully capable of making his own judgement? You would rather believe MVP who does not live in the Slayers house over someone who lived there firsthand? Someone who personally founded and financed the team through its infancy?
Washow
Profile Joined March 2010
Korea (South)119 Posts
October 18 2012 03:47 GMT
#326
Korean guy chipping in. They all posted bunch of bullshit and turns out they were all bunch of shitheads especially alicia. I hope they all get banned from sc2 or something. It's unbelievable how fucked up the story was

Basically both sides of the stories were told. And now EVERYONE is siding with Jessica. Someone will translate the posts later I'm sure. Shit's too long for me to do it.

They admitted the isolation, that coach guy being unprofessional as fuck, alicia was only mad because the whole team didn't worship him as if he was some sort of a god etc

There will be a shitstorm in Korea real soon
Chengakz
Profile Joined January 2012
United States163 Posts
October 18 2012 03:48 GMT
#327
Why are people so outraged that EG has so much money, 4k/mo is probably a big deal in Korea but im sure that doesnt exactly make him super rich. Here in NY that's just a month's RENT. On his fanbase alone, MMA deserves that much money (more people to see EG sponsors). If taking that much money is evil, I dont know what you consider athletes who receive $80million USD for 3 or 5 years.

For Aiur!
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 03:48:37
October 18 2012 03:48 GMT
#328
On October 18 2012 12:44 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 12:40 babylon wrote:
On October 18 2012 12:39 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On October 18 2012 12:35 bittman wrote:
On October 18 2012 12:31 -niL wrote:
I am confused even more, MVP tweeted that he has never seen such a kind and dedicated player like MMA and wishes the misunderstanding to be cleared up


Relationships between people are the most subjective thing around. Jessica might think he's a pest. MVP might think he's like a second son to him.

I imagine that there are two sides to every story.



Thing is I would take Mvp's word over Jessica's, hell most people probably would.

And will you take Mvp's word over Boxer's?

Boxer's word as told by Jessica...

His recent move to SKT1 as well as his refusal to comment re: MMA and this entire drama should perhaps be taken as an indication of whom he sides with, but I guess that that's just an argument from silence.

Keep in mind that Mvp is simply another player who probably knows significantly less about SlayerS' internal running and morale than Boxer and Jessica. I can be friendly with strangers/acquaintances all day, but that hardly means they can judge my character accurately.
Washow
Profile Joined March 2010
Korea (South)119 Posts
October 18 2012 03:48 GMT
#329
MVP's so fucking stupid lol. The facebook post he made today basically made everything blow up because he basically admitted everything. He wrote that post to "support" his coach but ruined everything because lol let's be honest, they are all dumb kids just good at video games and have no education

User was warned for this post
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 03:53:50
October 18 2012 03:49 GMT
#330
On October 18 2012 12:48 Washow wrote:
MVP's so fucking stupid lol. The facebook post he made today basically made everything blow up because he basically admitted everything. He wrote that post to "support" his coach but ruined everything because lol let's be honest, they are all dumb kids just good at video games and have no education

Wasn't that Ace ...?

I guess Ace's post was probably not the best for salvaging the reputation of the ST coach, but on the other hand, I guess it cleared the whole situation up, lol. He certainly needs to be more tactful in the future, but depending on how you look at it, we can probably even thank him for it.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 03:52:03
October 18 2012 03:51 GMT
#331
On October 18 2012 12:49 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 12:48 Washow wrote:
MVP's so fucking stupid lol. The facebook post he made today basically made everything blow up because he basically admitted everything. He wrote that post to "support" his coach but ruined everything because lol let's be honest, they are all dumb kids just good at video games and have no education

Wasn't that Ace ...?

Yea? when did Mvp make a facebook post?
and the coach to support would have been the ST coach so Mvp would made even less sense
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theseraph
Profile Joined September 2010
United States100 Posts
October 18 2012 03:51 GMT
#332
EG-RC to quickly become the 1998 chicago bulls.
Some motherfuckers always tryina skate uphill.
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
October 18 2012 03:52 GMT
#333
No not MMA :'( , I will have to become an EG fan......
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 03:54:59
October 18 2012 03:52 GMT
#334
On October 18 2012 12:48 Washow wrote:
MVP's so fucking stupid lol. The facebook post he made today basically made everything blow up because he basically admitted everything. He wrote that post to "support" his coach but ruined everything because lol let's be honest, they are all dumb kids just good at video games and have no education

That was Ace, do not call names at the wrong people. You sound like a typical raging parent who shows no maturity calling people "dumb kids" with "no education" If you think that's all video games are then you should not be here.
Moderatorlickypiddy
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
October 18 2012 03:55 GMT
#335
On October 18 2012 12:51 theseraph wrote:
EG-RC to quickly become the 1998 chicago bulls.

lol no.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Forgottenfrog
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1268 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 04:03:42
October 18 2012 03:59 GMT
#336
On October 18 2012 12:52 Tchado wrote:
No not MMA :'( , I will have to become an EG fan......


You can always cheer for MMA without being an EG fan. I cheer for Incontrol all the time but I'm not much of an EG fan. You can always like the players and not the team

-edit-
Man EG must have a lot of money to spend. They just signed Stephano, now they are trying to get MMA.
Spray
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States402 Posts
October 18 2012 04:02 GMT
#337
I hope he goes to Axiom. When's the last time you heard about Puma?
HuK Fighting~~!
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
October 18 2012 04:03 GMT
#338
On October 18 2012 12:48 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 12:44 Dosey wrote:
On October 18 2012 12:40 babylon wrote:
On October 18 2012 12:39 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On October 18 2012 12:35 bittman wrote:
On October 18 2012 12:31 -niL wrote:
I am confused even more, MVP tweeted that he has never seen such a kind and dedicated player like MMA and wishes the misunderstanding to be cleared up


Relationships between people are the most subjective thing around. Jessica might think he's a pest. MVP might think he's like a second son to him.

I imagine that there are two sides to every story.



Thing is I would take Mvp's word over Jessica's, hell most people probably would.

And will you take Mvp's word over Boxer's?

Boxer's word as told by Jessica...

His recent move to SKT1 as well as his refusal to comment re: MMA and this entire drama should perhaps be taken as an indication of whom he sides with, but I guess that that's just an argument from silence.

Keep in mind that Mvp is simply another player who probably knows significantly less about SlayerS' internal running and morale than Boxer and Jessica. I can be friendly with strangers/acquaintances all day, but that hardly means they can judge my character accurately.


And if you look at Mvp's post, he isn't really saying Jessica is in the wrong. All he said was that MMA was a nice and dedicated guy and hopes the misunderstanding gets sorted out. Since MMA was depicted as a cancer, Mvp just wanted to let us know his opinion of MMA and for people to not make snap judgements.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
October 18 2012 04:08 GMT
#339
I really hope they'll go to Axiom
EZ4ENCE
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
October 18 2012 04:12 GMT
#340
On October 18 2012 12:48 Washow wrote:
MVP's so fucking stupid lol. The facebook post he made today basically made everything blow up because he basically admitted everything. He wrote that post to "support" his coach but ruined everything because lol let's be honest, they are all dumb kids just good at video games and have no education


Polt and Nada say not so fast.
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