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Cauldron
Profile Joined September 2011
Finland125 Posts
October 17 2012 15:07 GMT
#681
Ohhh no! Sad news...
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
October 17 2012 15:07 GMT
#682
Jessica may have had her PR disasters, but she's never dishonest if only a bit dramatic and blunt.
KOtical
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany451 Posts
October 17 2012 15:07 GMT
#683
omg what sad news =( jessica how could u do that????
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
October 17 2012 15:07 GMT
#684
>.>;; WTF is up with Alicia and a dispute that will be settled in court...?
jellyjello
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)664 Posts
October 17 2012 15:07 GMT
#685
On October 18 2012 00:00 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 23:57 speknek wrote:
So much hate for jessica here. From this translation it seems like she usually tried to do the right things, but she's just too emotional. Wonder what the others have to say.


I believe there have been past events that have contributed to general community dislike of Jessica. She's quite known for creating unnecessary drama.

For that reason, I do hope that she doesn't interfere with SKT T1.


She's not generally known for creating drama (she's actually very much drama-free in terms of being a celerity), but she is known to have a hot temper.

The main root cause is not Jessica, but it is the way Slayers players were treated from other pro-gamers in Korea. They were being bullied and treated as outcasts.
dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
October 17 2012 15:07 GMT
#686
On October 17 2012 23:57 essencez wrote:
Wow drama.

Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 23:15 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
On October 17 2012 23:14 Megaliskuu wrote:
Let us all hope with all our might that Jessica doesn't get involved with SKT

Seconded.


All publicity is good publicity!

Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 22:39 Ansinjunger wrote:
On October 17 2012 22:35 Woizit wrote:
Wow, I just did a quick look through GSL interviews in April and May, and indeed no Slayers player ever mentioned members from other teams as practice partners. All the thanks they gave were only to teammates.


I remember Mvp thanking MMA and Ryung, among other players, after his victory in the 2011 GOM WC. There may have been other mentions last year, but I haven't seen anyone thank a SlayerS player in a very long time.


Everyone practices with Mvp. I can safety assume Mvp will repay the favor even if its done in secrecy, team relations have never been good between IM and Slayers after GanZi was made an overly exaggerated example and Sleep too.

Honestly with all the tension regarding to ostraciation and the lack of team atmosphere it is not surprising players (Puzzle, CoCa, Min) seek alternatives, in this case LoL. Bias aside, LoL has propelled MOBA type games close to mainstream territory and with the amount of Korean investment into LoL makes it a much more financially stable, possible more enjoyable career to pursue. Add on the extra competition from Kespa elephants makes the decision to switch rather easy to make.

Considering Jessica is probably heavily exaggerating Crank/MMA incidents I don't think their actions were necessary out of order. To be paid not by your own sponsorship but rather Boxer's personal sponsorship is demoralizing, this is probably what lead to embezzlement accusations as personal sponsorships are paid to the benefactor. Alicias case is the only one rather silly, kid needs to grow up. MMA/Crank probably felt held back from their true potential due to the lack of practice partners and these incentives, although selfish, lead them on a quest trying to create a separate team and/or moving to foreign ones. After all isn't too unreasonable considering no one practices with you and you are only getting paid cause someone likes your boss.

tl;dr In summary, standard Asian mentality, avoiding confrontational with issues until it blows up in your face. Look forwarding to reading both sides to the story.

LG-IM.CoCa to carry on IM zerg line, one can only pray at this point :[


Theres no need to be so racist, stereotyping people like that
Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
October 17 2012 15:07 GMT
#687
Holy shit, I can't believe it :O This team has always been one of my favourite teams, I'm really, really saddened by this news. It's a shame about Puzzle and Coca switching to LoL, I always thought they were really talented players
Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
October 17 2012 15:08 GMT
#688
Poor Genius. He couldn't resist the allure of the chair and now he's teamless once again.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
October 17 2012 15:08 GMT
#689
So basically eSF treated SlayerS players badly and then Jessica was accused of embezzling funds, which most of the players agreed about, and the team basically died. Sad, whatever the whole truth might be.

Shouldn't the police be investigating this though?
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
October 17 2012 15:08 GMT
#690
I thought Ganzi had left slayers before the MMA incident.... guess my sense of timing is off?
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
tyner
Profile Joined August 2012
176 Posts
October 17 2012 15:09 GMT
#691
On October 18 2012 00:04 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 00:02 tyner wrote:
On October 17 2012 23:59 Whatson wrote:
On October 17 2012 23:55 tyner wrote:
Haven't read through it all but, damn Jessica is a badass. and here everyone thought she was some silly drama queen.

Don't bullshit stuff when you haven't read through all of it


She isn't gonna talk all this shit and lie about it. Jessica's mentioning names and initials, you don't wanna lie about stuff like that.

There's a reason why we're getting other players' sides of the story later.
Also, you must not know a lot about some of the shadier foreign "teams".
EDIT: For example, Eclypsia and Blight, and also the TSL Coach Lee stuff had a bunch of names thrown around.


??? Eclipse and Blight have nothing to do with this?

There's gonna be some discrepancies, ya, but I'll take Jessica's word over a 18~20 year olds.
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
October 17 2012 15:10 GMT
#692
On October 18 2012 00:05 mjuuy wrote:
sc2.korea dead?


was it ever alive?
Greggle
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1131 Posts
October 17 2012 15:10 GMT
#693
Well there goes most of my favorite players...

Coca and Puzzle =(

MKP fighting!
Life is too short to take it seriously.
Venomsflame
Profile Joined February 2011
United States613 Posts
October 17 2012 15:10 GMT
#694
On October 18 2012 00:07 dynwar7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 23:57 essencez wrote:
Wow drama.

On October 17 2012 23:15 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
On October 17 2012 23:14 Megaliskuu wrote:
Let us all hope with all our might that Jessica doesn't get involved with SKT

Seconded.


All publicity is good publicity!

On October 17 2012 22:39 Ansinjunger wrote:
On October 17 2012 22:35 Woizit wrote:
Wow, I just did a quick look through GSL interviews in April and May, and indeed no Slayers player ever mentioned members from other teams as practice partners. All the thanks they gave were only to teammates.


I remember Mvp thanking MMA and Ryung, among other players, after his victory in the 2011 GOM WC. There may have been other mentions last year, but I haven't seen anyone thank a SlayerS player in a very long time.


Everyone practices with Mvp. I can safety assume Mvp will repay the favor even if its done in secrecy, team relations have never been good between IM and Slayers after GanZi was made an overly exaggerated example and Sleep too.

Honestly with all the tension regarding to ostraciation and the lack of team atmosphere it is not surprising players (Puzzle, CoCa, Min) seek alternatives, in this case LoL. Bias aside, LoL has propelled MOBA type games close to mainstream territory and with the amount of Korean investment into LoL makes it a much more financially stable, possible more enjoyable career to pursue. Add on the extra competition from Kespa elephants makes the decision to switch rather easy to make.

Considering Jessica is probably heavily exaggerating Crank/MMA incidents I don't think their actions were necessary out of order. To be paid not by your own sponsorship but rather Boxer's personal sponsorship is demoralizing, this is probably what lead to embezzlement accusations as personal sponsorships are paid to the benefactor. Alicias case is the only one rather silly, kid needs to grow up. MMA/Crank probably felt held back from their true potential due to the lack of practice partners and these incentives, although selfish, lead them on a quest trying to create a separate team and/or moving to foreign ones. After all isn't too unreasonable considering no one practices with you and you are only getting paid cause someone likes your boss.

tl;dr In summary, standard Asian mentality, avoiding confrontational with issues until it blows up in your face. Look forwarding to reading both sides to the story.

LG-IM.CoCa to carry on IM zerg line, one can only pray at this point :[


Theres no need to be so racist, stereotyping people like that


Go away.
ichnaschekot
Profile Joined January 2011
380 Posts
October 17 2012 15:11 GMT
#695
It saddens me that CoCa and Puzzle switch to LoL.
m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
October 17 2012 15:11 GMT
#696
While i really got tired of Jessicas Drama all the time.. In no way i believe that she is/was dishonest. I may not like her, but that does not mean that i need to lose all respect for her.

Sad to see Slayers go.
IMScientist
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy125 Posts
October 17 2012 15:11 GMT
#697
This is really sad i just hope mma will join IM :D
This guy plays like he was sent down from heavens
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
October 17 2012 15:11 GMT
#698
MMA must have a solid counter answer if it's his fault that Boxer lost his passion to play the game. I hope MMA have a really solid answer.

Until now, for myself, i'll boycoyt every MMA match for what it's worth (meaning nothing). As a huge fan and follower of Boxer i really can't understand how you could disrepect the man.

If this kids can be paid playing video game, it's because of him.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
GARO
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2255 Posts
October 17 2012 15:11 GMT
#699
This is what destroyed Boxer's passion? Disgusting drama?

ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
October 17 2012 15:12 GMT
#700
A year ago if someone told you that oGs would disband before ZeNEX and SlayerS would follow shortly after you'd laugh at them .
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