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Slayers to disband - Page 33

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tyner
Profile Joined August 2012
176 Posts
October 17 2012 14:55 GMT
#641
Haven't read through it all but, damn Jessica is a badass. and here everyone thought she was some silly drama queen.
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
October 17 2012 14:55 GMT
#642
On October 17 2012 23:53 LighT. wrote:
if IM signs MMA...
Seed..
MVP..
Nestea..
SK-MC..
MMA...

and a reserve line of..
First..Losira..Happy


Pretty gooddd


I doubt IM wants to overpay for MMA.
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
October 17 2012 14:55 GMT
#643
Just....wow. This is rather unsettling to say the least...
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sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
October 17 2012 14:55 GMT
#644
On October 17 2012 23:50 S_SienZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 23:48 Flonomenalz wrote:
Reading Jessica's side of the story though... what she's saying makes sense. I heard the Intel sponsorship was just for Boxer, not SlayerS, so it seems like it would be funded through their own pockets... I'm extremely curious what this Monsieur J guy told the players to make them turn against Boxer/Jessica in such a manner. They all seemed so close... :'(


Manager with J initial = alleged SlayerS traitor

Monsieur J = former GSL sponsor.

The actor who gave out the awards at the end of the Monsieur J GSL season is behind it all! I knew it!! He whispered sweet nothings about skin care in their ears, corrupting their young impressionable minds, turning them against their fearless dear leaders.
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45000 Posts
October 17 2012 14:56 GMT
#645
On October 17 2012 23:54 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 23:53 LighT. wrote:
if IM signs MMA...
Seed..
MVP..
Nestea..
SK-MC..
MMA...

and a reserve line of..
First..Losira..Happy


Pretty gooddd


IM only has to send out Yonghwa...


Coach could send out himself. 5 times in a row.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
AimlessAmoeba
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada704 Posts
October 17 2012 14:56 GMT
#646
-_- not a great start to the day
Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
October 17 2012 14:56 GMT
#647
cant say im surprised, it was going downwards this year for slayers, was just a matter of time even though we saw half of the picture...
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
October 17 2012 14:56 GMT
#648

Change of BoxeR's mind
- He was very disappointed when MMA called it a slavery note. He remembered how he started and how players were living more than ten years ago and he wanted to create a better environment for players. After everything he gave up to come to SC2 to fulfill his dream of remaining as a player and training new players who can shine in e-sports, what MMA did damaged BoxeR.
- He was preparing to come back as a player before the HOTS was released. However after he wanted to quit.

- His passion as a manager and as a player were diminishing fast. I had hard time watching him too. He taught the players a more than ten-year period of experience inside and outside the game but the players didn't seem to appreciate that. That's when I suggested him to coach in T1 for remaining players, who may be able to fire up his passion again. After a few days of consideration, he agreed.

Alicia and Ryung
- Ryung never received the highlight because of MMA but he was a good friend of MMA. When BoxeR cared for MMA the most, I cared for Ryung the most. When the incidents happened, I was worried about Ryung being influenced by that. When Ryung's wrists were bad. I sent him back home. He performed so much better. He never disappointed me. He tried his best in GSTL even in that atmosphere. But when Ryung behaved in a way MMA did, I was rather disappointed. When I asked him 'why are you being like that?' he also said 'I lost my faith in you at some point.' and when I asked him 'what have I done?' he couldn't answer

- As you might already know, Alicia was a B-team player. He was a hard worker who was also modest. But he started to change as he entered foreign tournaments. It's not a bad thing for a man to chase after money and fame but our team started with everything glamorously. When we resided in Yeouido (T/N: one of the richest area), we had both vans and cars to look after the kids. When our condition got better, we moved to Gimpo and we delegated more work to Cella. We were never hungry. If we started in hard conditions, maybe they would have been thankful as the conditions improve gradually but for us it was the other way around.

- Alicia's complaint was that no right person dropped him and picked him up from the airport when he entered foreign tournaments. The reason was that it's annoying to be picked up and dropped off by someone else but Cella. I just sighed when he told me this. I sent him up to take a break. His complaint was not something that I did wrong and I thought he lakced some common sense.


Money changes people. It really does.
secret - never again
Guamshin
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands295 Posts
October 17 2012 14:56 GMT
#649
What a depressing mess. I still don't understand why they (for example Crank) didn't like Jessica and why they(according to her) acted like assholes.
Weeeee
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10363 Posts
October 17 2012 14:57 GMT
#650
I'm reading the translation and...

fuck is that an exageration or did MMA really affect Boxer that much? fuck you MMA... i wanted to see Boxer play again so badly ;;;; even if you were better Boxer is always extremely interesting to watch (except when he derps)


This is so interesting to read all this, this is like SlayerS whole life story, i was wondering why (or maybe I simply forgot) Ganzi was not in the individual league for a while even tho he did well in GSTL
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
Racer
Profile Joined May 2011
103 Posts
October 17 2012 14:57 GMT
#651
Jessica always involed in drama coming from korea, would like to hear the other side of story.
essencez
Profile Joined February 2012
342 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 15:00:44
October 17 2012 14:57 GMT
#652
Wow drama.

On October 17 2012 23:15 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
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On October 17 2012 23:14 Megaliskuu wrote:
Let us all hope with all our might that Jessica doesn't get involved with SKT

Seconded.


All publicity is good publicity!

On October 17 2012 22:39 Ansinjunger wrote:
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On October 17 2012 22:35 Woizit wrote:
Wow, I just did a quick look through GSL interviews in April and May, and indeed no Slayers player ever mentioned members from other teams as practice partners. All the thanks they gave were only to teammates.


I remember Mvp thanking MMA and Ryung, among other players, after his victory in the 2011 GOM WC. There may have been other mentions last year, but I haven't seen anyone thank a SlayerS player in a very long time.


Everyone practices with Mvp. I can safety assume Mvp will repay the favor even if its done in secrecy, team relations have never been good between IM and Slayers after GanZi was made an overly exaggerated example and Sleep too.

Honestly with all the tension regarding to ostraciation and the lack of team atmosphere it is not surprising players (Puzzle, CoCa, Min) seek alternatives, in this case LoL. Bias aside, LoL has propelled MOBA type games close to mainstream territory and with the amount of Korean investment into LoL makes it a much more financially stable, possible more enjoyable career to pursue. Add on the extra competition from Kespa elephants makes the decision to switch rather easy to make.

Considering Jessica is probably heavily exaggerating Crank/MMA incidents I don't think their actions were necessary out of order. To be paid not by your own sponsorship but rather Boxer's personal sponsorship is demoralizing, this is probably what lead to embezzlement accusations as personal sponsorships are paid to the benefactor. Alicias case is the only one rather silly, kid needs to grow up. MMA/Crank probably felt held back from their true potential due to the lack of practice partners and these incentives, although selfish, lead them on a quest trying to create a separate team and/or moving to foreign ones. After all isn't too unreasonable considering no one practices with you and you are only getting paid cause someone likes your boss.

tl;dr In summary, standard Asian mentality, avoiding confrontational with issues until it blows up in your face. Look forwarding to reading both sides to the story.

LG-IM.CoCa to carry on IM zerg line, one can only pray at this point :[
essence.gg - "Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
October 17 2012 14:57 GMT
#653
RIP SlayerS
Not really a surprise, this has been a long time coming. Completely disregarding how much of the stuff about Jessica is true, the way the team disbanded is a complete clusterfuck and the worst way possible, and she as the manager is the main person responsible to how this should be handled.
I hope all the players find new teams (and I hope the statement that Coca and Puzzle would witch to lol is not true, as I always thought of them as really,really good players).
Get off my lawn, young punks
speknek
Profile Joined February 2012
758 Posts
October 17 2012 14:57 GMT
#654
So much hate for jessica here. From this translation it seems like she usually tried to do the right things, but she's just too emotional. Wonder what the others have to say.
j1nzo
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany367 Posts
October 17 2012 14:57 GMT
#655
they gave us awesome moments, r.i.p. slayers...
however it's very sad if the accusations jessica makes are true -.-
sad to see boxers team die in such a fashion
♞ rest in peace Madiba ♞
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 17 2012 14:57 GMT
#656
On October 17 2012 23:55 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 23:49 opterown wrote:
zomg;
manager J = monsier J

GSL sponsors killing slayers? :O

/kidding


I guess we know who he was talking to now

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hahahaha that was good
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mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
October 17 2012 14:58 GMT
#657
On October 17 2012 23:55 tyner wrote:
Haven't read through it all but, damn Jessica is a badass. and here everyone thought she was some silly drama queen.


Actually, I gave her the benefit of the doubt before, but reading all this confirms 'drama queen' status in my mind
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nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
October 17 2012 14:58 GMT
#658
ah, sad news. i'm eager to find out more about this. i don't feel comfortable sentencing someone to eternal dislike in the supreme court of my mind with so little info.

thank you slayers! great team. hope the players find new teams etc. very sad to hear about coca playing lol, he never got to break out then i guess.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
tyner
Profile Joined August 2012
176 Posts
October 17 2012 14:59 GMT
#659
On October 17 2012 23:57 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 23:55 Asha` wrote:
On October 17 2012 23:49 opterown wrote:
zomg;
manager J = monsier J

GSL sponsors killing slayers? :O

/kidding


I guess we know who he was talking to now

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[image loading]

hahahaha that was good


hahaha now the I HATE YOU sign in the GSL booths all make sense
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
October 17 2012 14:59 GMT
#660
On October 17 2012 23:55 tyner wrote:
Haven't read through it all but, damn Jessica is a badass. and here everyone thought she was some silly drama queen.

Don't bullshit stuff when you haven't read through all of it
¯\_(シ)_/¯
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