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Savagewood
Profile Joined June 2012
United States83 Posts
October 17 2012 14:59 GMT
#661
Puzzle to LoL? This might be the most saddening news of all.
"It turns out the game is a lot harder when you can't see the whole map."-IdrA, regarding his match against Spades.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45002 Posts
October 17 2012 15:00 GMT
#662
On October 17 2012 23:57 speknek wrote:
So much hate for jessica here. From this translation it seems like she usually tried to do the right things, but she's just too emotional. Wonder what the others have to say.


I believe there have been past events that have contributed to general community dislike of Jessica. She's quite known for creating unnecessary drama.

For that reason, I do hope that she doesn't interfere with SKT T1.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Mozzery
Profile Joined January 2012
United States140 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 15:00:50
October 17 2012 15:00 GMT
#663
I think what a lot of people are missing is that either Jessica is horrible at HR and hired an incompetent manager who undermined her, or she is an embezzler who took money from the team. There is no situation where she comes out of this looking good. It's bad when she would have you believe she made a horrendous hiring decision and did not have transparent enough records to prove she wasn't embezzling, (or she wasn't willing to show financial records to the players after the majority of them seemed to believe in the embezzling). Really, that's her BEST case scenario in terms of what happened.
Proponent of team liquid word filtering imbalanced to "at an unacceptable level of racial balance/game design"
izen
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden136 Posts
October 17 2012 15:00 GMT
#664
Fuck. My favorite team :/
a thousand screaming voices, Eager to watch you succeed Give them something real to believe
Vundox
Profile Joined March 2011
United States182 Posts
October 17 2012 15:00 GMT
#665
I was such a huge fan of MMA ;_;
how could he do that to Boxer, my heart is literally broken and I'm on the verge of tears
implying Suzy isn't perfect
Imbu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States903 Posts
October 17 2012 15:00 GMT
#666
This is too depressing

I sure hope that some other team like EG or Liquid will be able to pick up the players and give them a chance to continue attending international tournaments.
@DreamingBird
frequency
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1901 Posts
October 17 2012 15:01 GMT
#667
Only 1 more bit I think lol

- Unless the player does not notify us by 6th October, the contract autumatically extends. He did not contact us showing his interest in quitting so it is an automatic extension. But he was expulsed from the team. Something happened very recently which I can't reveal. It's something that will be solved at a court and unforgivable but considering other people I won't reveal the details.

The reason why Clide went KT
- I felt unsecure about Clide hanging around with MMA. I wanted to create a career for him before he makes a mistake like MMA's. He still had a compulsory military service to carry out and his performance was not great. When KT wanted a coach, I persuaded him that there is another way of pursuing his dream. Was thinking of sending Cella at first but KT wanted a Terran coach so Clide agreed to go after a discussion.
Rumours surrounding SlayerS disbanding
- When was talking to Woongjin coach, Mr. Ryu (T/N: Former Slayers coach), he told me that he heard SlayerS was disbanding. His point was that the federation teams have told him. I don't know why the federation team had been saying that because at the time, disbanding was never decided.
- It seems like they are saying that because SlayerS is not part of player trade agreement, but on the paper we are included in. When the federation announced that they never told us that they will include us as part of it. I found out when it was announced. I do not know what we are included in there. From SlayerS point of view, the federation teams, kespa teams and foreign teams are the same. The agreement also never specify about korean players in foreign teams.

- If any of our players are needed by other teams, I will always transfer them. That's the only thing that I can do to care for remaining players. If there is an offer, I will send them. We have done this previously and even in the future, there won't be a transfer fee. I didn't create a team to benefit from transfer fees
- If the federation and SlayerS can't co-exist but both think about the players, that is the right thing to do. However as for MMA, I told him that if there is an offer from one of Kespa teams I will send him but he said he had been in a Kespa team before that he never wants to live like that and he also claimed that he is not going to the federation team either. Whether he was telling the truth, we will see.

- For players who didn't write a contract, I let them go if they wanted to. But players bound are by a contract are meant to leave after it is over, isn't it? But I still let them go, I let GanZi go even though he was on contract. I just want players to be honest and don't let me down by lying.. I, at least, want to see a professional ending.


See top of thread for link to full translation
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tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
October 17 2012 15:02 GMT
#668
Who's information is this? Jessica's? That's what I don't understand; if she's accused of embezzling money I'd like to hear it from other people involved with SlayerS, not her.
SausageLinks
Profile Joined December 2010
United States93 Posts
October 17 2012 15:02 GMT
#669
as far as I'm concerned, I don't really care in this situation who is right or wrong, but I'm gonna stick with the man himself, Boxer. we all know he's put in a lot of work into making this team.

and he makes a damn good point, too. MMA thinks it's a slave drive while Boxer had to work 10x harder for all his shit? Boxer had to spend nights at PC bangs and skipping school just to find some decent practice while MMA gets a house and food and just decides to shit all over Boxer and his hard work. any older player within their community knows how hard it was back then to get good at competitive gaming - Umehara Daigo had the same steeled mentality, never studying and only putting his quarters into that arcade machine just so he could get some practice.
n00b never die
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 17 2012 15:02 GMT
#670
I stopped following the sc2 scene for quite some time but reading some of those translations really hurts my heart, I think what hurt the most was the part about Crank and MMA talking disrespectfully to Boxer, their Hyungnim, Idol and manager/coach for all their time in Slayers

I was especially shocked about MMA who was proclaimed as Boxer " successor" ever since his GSTL victory against DRG, so disappointed right now

and lol@Alicia the textbook example of a player going to a foreign event and getting cocky and only aiming for the big bucks
theatreofwar
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada60 Posts
October 17 2012 15:02 GMT
#671
On October 17 2012 23:53 LighT. wrote:
if IM signs MMA...
Seed..
MVP..
Nestea..
SK-MC..
MMA...

and a reserve line of..
First..Losira..Happy


Pretty gooddd


I feel like Artosis will kill you in your sleep for leaving YongHwa out of that
starslayer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States696 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 15:11:25
October 17 2012 15:02 GMT
#672
damn yo T.T so sad i loved the team terrans slayer when it had teaja ganzi mma and ryung then teaja and ganzi left,but i stayed strong hoping for puzzle and coca even clide to round the team out and loved the them all. but this just hurts mma getting a bad wrap imo but i dont crank and mma yelling at boxer much something else had to happen and jessica is such a drama queen such a shame and puzzle and coca to LOL WHY NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO plz no coca.
i came here to kickass and chew bubblegum and i'm all out of bubble gum
soullogik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1171 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 15:04:25
October 17 2012 15:02 GMT
#673
ridiculous
young ho
tyner
Profile Joined August 2012
176 Posts
October 17 2012 15:02 GMT
#674
On October 17 2012 23:59 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 23:55 tyner wrote:
Haven't read through it all but, damn Jessica is a badass. and here everyone thought she was some silly drama queen.

Don't bullshit stuff when you haven't read through all of it


She isn't gonna talk all this shit and lie about it. Jessica's mentioning names and initials, you don't wanna lie about stuff like that.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45002 Posts
October 17 2012 15:03 GMT
#675
On October 18 2012 00:01 frequency wrote:
Only 1 more bit I think lol

Show nested quote +
- Unless the player does not notify us by 6th October, the contract autumatically extends. He did not contact us showing his interest in quitting so it is an automatic extension. But he was expulsed from the team. Something happened very recently which I can't reveal. It's something that will be solved at a court and unforgivable but considering other people I won't reveal the details.

The reason why Clide went KT
- I felt unsecure about Clide hanging around with MMA. I wanted to create a career for him before he makes a mistake like MMA's. He still had a compulsory military service to carry out and his performance was not great. When KT wanted a coach, I persuaded him that there is another way of pursuing his dream. Was thinking of sending Cella at first but KT wanted a Terran coach so Clide agreed to go after a discussion.
Rumours surrounding SlayerS disbanding
- When was talking to Woongjin coach, Mr. Ryu (T/N: Former Slayers coach), he told me that he heard SlayerS was disbanding. His point was that the federation teams have told him. I don't know why the federation team had been saying that because at the time, disbanding was never decided.
- It seems like they are saying that because SlayerS is not part of player trade agreement, but on the paper we are included in. When the federation announced that they never told us that they will include us as part of it. I found out when it was announced. I do not know what we are included in there. From SlayerS point of view, the federation teams, kespa teams and foreign teams are the same. The agreement also never specify about korean players in foreign teams.

- If any of our players are needed by other teams, I will always transfer them. That's the only thing that I can do to care for remaining players. If there is an offer, I will send them. We have done this previously and even in the future, there won't be a transfer fee. I didn't create a team to benefit from transfer fees
- If the federation and SlayerS can't co-exist but both think about the players, that is the right thing to do. However as for MMA, I told him that if there is an offer from one of Kespa teams I will send him but he said he had been in a Kespa team before that he never wants to live like that and he also claimed that he is not going to the federation team either. Whether he was telling the truth, we will see.

- For players who didn't write a contract, I let them go if they wanted to. But players bound are by a contract are meant to leave after it is over, isn't it? But I still let them go, I let GanZi go even though he was on contract. I just want players to be honest and don't let me down by lying.. I, at least, want to see a professional ending.


See top of thread for link to full translation


Thanks so much for taking the time to translate this
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 15:05:39
October 17 2012 15:04 GMT
#676
On October 18 2012 00:02 tyner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 23:59 Whatson wrote:
On October 17 2012 23:55 tyner wrote:
Haven't read through it all but, damn Jessica is a badass. and here everyone thought she was some silly drama queen.

Don't bullshit stuff when you haven't read through all of it


She isn't gonna talk all this shit and lie about it. Jessica's mentioning names and initials, you don't wanna lie about stuff like that.

There's a reason why we're getting other players' sides of the story later.
Also, you must not know a lot about some of the shadier foreign "teams".
EDIT: For example, Eclypsia and Blight, and also the TSL Coach Lee stuff had a bunch of names thrown around.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
malady
Profile Joined November 2010
United States600 Posts
October 17 2012 15:04 GMT
#677
this is why you need a harda ss like kespa!

this is like schoolyard drama
dumchu
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
October 17 2012 15:05 GMT
#678
I highly doubt Jessica is lying if she's publicly naming names and not just saying Player X did so and so... managing a team isn't as easy as it seems. Not easy at all.

I love crazymoving
mjuuy
Profile Joined May 2012
Norway506 Posts
October 17 2012 15:05 GMT
#679
sc2.korea dead?
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬. 우정호 1988 - 2012
Sejanus
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Lithuania550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 15:06:16
October 17 2012 15:05 GMT
#680
SlayerS disbands. Is that how one says it? As simply as that. "SlayerS disbands". "The soup is hot; the soup is cold." "SlayerS is kickin; SlayerS is dead." Shake with terror when such words pass your lips, for fear they be untrue and Boxer cut out your tongue for the lie! And if true, for your lifetime boast that you were honored to speak it's name even in death. The dying of such a team, must be shouted, screamed! It must echo back from the corners of the universe. "SlayerS is dead! Team SlayerS of Korea lives no more!"

– Octavian, Cleopatra (1963)
Friends don't let friends massacre civilians
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