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On October 23 2012 05:38 lambac0re wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 05:27 Integra wrote:On October 23 2012 05:25 BlueFlames wrote:On October 23 2012 05:20 LighT. wrote:
This is getting out of hand...
MMA , Crank and Jessica is going to end up dragging boxer into this..when he wants no part of this drama.
In Jessica's interview, she did indeed, state all the facts, none of which were lies however, she fails to blame herself for her poor PR and decision making.
MMA and Crank I believe are also telling the truth, and Crank's case it was a big misunderstanding between the two parties, and between MMA/Jessica, it seems like it has to do with Jessica's poor managerial skills and MMA getting too emotional with the situation. But, they acknowledge their mistakes, and regret the words thrown and accept responsibility.
Alicia is just a diva and clearly a liar. I have no respect for him as a player at all at this point.
Sigh...Jessica's Response coming up...
I hope MMA/Crank/Jessica realizes that with each article, they're hurting their rep, hurting esports giving it a bad reputation of scandals/drama (See BW Scandal and how much impact it had on the BW community) Dont worry. Except for the ESF-drama, the rest is just a few people arguing and bashing each other. Nothing that should hurt E-sports. Worst case i think would be Jessica never running a team and Crank and MMA having to go to a foreign team to earn money. I cant see what else there could be. I mean League of Legends had teams cheating in their season finals, because of organisational failures. In comparison, this is just not that important. Except for the ESF-stuff as i said. Now if Boxer gets involved that might change. For korea at least. After this I can guarantee you that Jessica won't run or manage a team in the SC2 scene again, ever. You wanna hedge some bets on this?
Jessica would probably gather herself,, try to make amends and make a team of
Crank, Alicia, MMA, Dragon and Ryung.
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On October 23 2012 05:43 LighT. wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 05:38 lambac0re wrote:On October 23 2012 05:27 Integra wrote:On October 23 2012 05:25 BlueFlames wrote:On October 23 2012 05:20 LighT. wrote:
This is getting out of hand...
MMA , Crank and Jessica is going to end up dragging boxer into this..when he wants no part of this drama.
In Jessica's interview, she did indeed, state all the facts, none of which were lies however, she fails to blame herself for her poor PR and decision making.
MMA and Crank I believe are also telling the truth, and Crank's case it was a big misunderstanding between the two parties, and between MMA/Jessica, it seems like it has to do with Jessica's poor managerial skills and MMA getting too emotional with the situation. But, they acknowledge their mistakes, and regret the words thrown and accept responsibility.
Alicia is just a diva and clearly a liar. I have no respect for him as a player at all at this point.
Sigh...Jessica's Response coming up...
I hope MMA/Crank/Jessica realizes that with each article, they're hurting their rep, hurting esports giving it a bad reputation of scandals/drama (See BW Scandal and how much impact it had on the BW community) Dont worry. Except for the ESF-drama, the rest is just a few people arguing and bashing each other. Nothing that should hurt E-sports. Worst case i think would be Jessica never running a team and Crank and MMA having to go to a foreign team to earn money. I cant see what else there could be. I mean League of Legends had teams cheating in their season finals, because of organisational failures. In comparison, this is just not that important. Except for the ESF-stuff as i said. Now if Boxer gets involved that might change. For korea at least. After this I can guarantee you that Jessica won't run or manage a team in the SC2 scene again, ever. You wanna hedge some bets on this? Jessica would probably gather herself,, try to make amends and make a team of Crank, Alicia, MMA, Dragon and Ryung.
What about GanZi and Taejja
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On October 23 2012 05:42 qtiehunter wrote:
inb4 she founds SQT1, the best team of SC2LoL history
Her team name would more likely be QQ and her in game alias could be Slayer_of_Slayers.
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On October 23 2012 05:28 Shival wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 05:25 geokilla wrote:Thanks for the translations! On October 23 2012 04:55 Shival wrote:
Thanks for doing a proper translation stew_.
May I raise the question why MMA blames Jessica for Boxer leaving Slayers and quiting as a player? That seems a very silly accusation since they're engaged... Just because they're engaged doesn't mean he can't quit because of Jessica.. Looks like Jessica is blowing things out of proportion after all. Everyone needs to take the blame though, not just Jessica or the players or whoever. No, I agree. It's silly to do so though. Team Slayers was his dream, to create a better environment for pro's. He also wanted to continue his playing career, even staying the longest of all the players at MLG. You're telling me he's quiting all those dreams because of mere meddling of Jessica, even though he praised her in various interviews for unorthodox builds? Unlikely and silly.
I actually think it makes lots of sense for him to quit because of her. If everything going on at slayers was stressing their relationship I can very much understand his desire to move somewhere else still involved in SC2 in order to preserve the relationship while still maintaining aspects of his dream.
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On October 23 2012 05:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:I'm glad you find the demolition of an eSports team and the people behind it amusing. You are a credit to the community
The outcome was unfortunate. The aftermath, however, was completely avoidable and you're damn right I'm going to laugh at adults behaving like children.
Yours + Genna's handling was responsible -- wait, think about what we want to say, create a professional statement. But with very few exceptions, the rest of it (edit: it = the responses) was not, and I'm not going to sit here and have a moment of silence or whatever if the creators of the team itself can't be serious.
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Jessica is always the common denominator with most issues in slayers it seems. Also...
Rod Breslau @Slasher
MMA backs up my sources, saying Slayers/Jessica demanded a large transfer fee on his contract. Talks broke down, fee negated to zero.
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On October 23 2012 05:28 Shival wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 05:25 geokilla wrote:Thanks for the translations! On October 23 2012 04:55 Shival wrote:
Thanks for doing a proper translation stew_.
May I raise the question why MMA blames Jessica for Boxer leaving Slayers and quiting as a player? That seems a very silly accusation since they're engaged... Just because they're engaged doesn't mean he can't quit because of Jessica.. Looks like Jessica is blowing things out of proportion after all. Everyone needs to take the blame though, not just Jessica or the players or whoever. No, I agree. It's silly to do so though. Team Slayers was his dream, to create a better environment for pro's. He also wanted to continue his playing career, even staying the longest of all the players at MLG. You're telling me he's quiting all those dreams because of mere meddling of Jessica, even though he praised her in various interviews for unorthodox builds? Unlikely and silly.
So you're saying you don't praise your girlfriend in public?
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On October 23 2012 05:14 Dekkers wrote:
So you guys never argue with your girlfriend?
You are lucky, and you are lying.
MMA is too young to understand husband wife relationship. Even if they argue 24/7, doesn't mean they hate each other. Once someone else step in, they will tear that person into shred.
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On October 23 2012 03:06 Hardigan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 03:01 Quesadilla wrote:
Jessica is literally the worst thing that has ever happened in Starcraft. I can't believe anybody would look at this situation and blame anything else. Drama follows her everywhere, straight up. It's constant. She has a problem with everyone and everything, but you notice how everyone else has a problem with her? Nobody likes her, nobody can cooperate with her. This is terrible for the game and ESPORTS. I just hope this is the last that we hear of her. pls inform yourself first before you make a statement like that
Doesn't hurt that MMA and Crank's interviews that just released mimic everything I said, does it. I've seen her berating boxer in public, first hand. She's nuts.
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Thank you stew_ for the translation!
But I have a question:
+ Show Spoiler +On October 23 2012 04:32 stew_ wrote:
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About an hour after Jessica told ryu the aforementioned statement, she called me and crank to her house. Boxer and Jessica told me everything and me and crank talked of the discontent that we had. At the end, Jessica said that ‘lets nullify the contract right now’ and asked if we wanted to rip our contracts, but I didn’t want to. We were returned the money that we paid after a week.
TIG: this contrasts with jessica’s statement that a contract was remaining. When did you verify this?
Mma: we trusted Jessica. But this was our mistake. After Jessica said ‘lets rip the contracts’, she gathered all the players and said ‘I wont hold you back if you want to leave the team’.
At this time, the players that wanted to go to a foreign team (ganzi, taeja) had their contracts nullified. After a few days, we asked if the contract was really nullified. However, Jessica said that the contract was only nullified for those that wanted to leave the team on that day only. After hearing this, the players were very disappointed at Jessica and I was hurt by jessica’s duplicity.
Can you (or someone else) clarify this translation?
Jessica offered to rip the contracts" but MMA said "I didnt want to".
Then later they ask Jessica if the contracts are void, and she said they were only void for the players who wanted to leave.
And MMA was very disappointed and hurt that Jessica didnt rip his contract even though he stated "I didnt want to"?
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On October 23 2012 06:19 geokilla wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 05:28 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 05:25 geokilla wrote:Thanks for the translations! On October 23 2012 04:55 Shival wrote:
Thanks for doing a proper translation stew_.
May I raise the question why MMA blames Jessica for Boxer leaving Slayers and quiting as a player? That seems a very silly accusation since they're engaged... Just because they're engaged doesn't mean he can't quit because of Jessica.. Looks like Jessica is blowing things out of proportion after all. Everyone needs to take the blame though, not just Jessica or the players or whoever. No, I agree. It's silly to do so though. Team Slayers was his dream, to create a better environment for pro's. He also wanted to continue his playing career, even staying the longest of all the players at MLG. You're telling me he's quiting all those dreams because of mere meddling of Jessica, even though he praised her in various interviews for unorthodox builds? Unlikely and silly. So you're saying you don't praise your girlfriend in public?
Not without reason, no. I won't bash her, but I won't praise her either if it isn't warranted.
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On October 23 2012 06:12 Serpico wrote:
Jessica is always the common denominator with most issues in slayers it seems. Also...
Rod Breslau @Slasher
MMA backs up my sources, saying Slayers/Jessica demanded a large transfer fee on his contract. Talks broke down, fee negated to zero.
Again without time sensitivity, this could be misconstrued. If it was during the time when things were good, and mma was at the top of his game, asking for a transfer fee would seem legitimate, especially if the negotiations had something like mma claiming most of that transfer fee for himself. People keep bringing up Slasher's tweet, which as far as I care is true, but that doesn't change anything about this argument back and forth. She ended up dropping the transfer fee later because of multitudes of reasons, demand got lower with his slump, he wanted out so she simply wanted to get him out for his own sake, no one bit at the large transfer fee and she just decided it wasn't worth negotiating over it, etc etc.
Why do people continually take small snippets of information we've gathered, and then throw together a conclusion that makes little to no sense. Yes, because Jessica is the manager of slayers of course she's going to be a common denominator, that's like saying everytime something happens with MLG sundance is a common denominator, DUH.
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Oh god, Jessica released the phone recording.
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On October 23 2012 06:50 Thehealbus wrote:
Oh god, Jessica released the phone recording.
Why is this 'oh god', now we know for sure about the crank scenario.
1) what they talked about
2) did crank yell/scream/disrespect boxer, or was it far less
3) we can settle the crank situation once and for all
also cella is tweeting some giant blocks of text now. can someone translate his last two tweets, they seem to be regarding coaching strategies, and his some mentions of TSL and Fnatic?
https://twitter.com/SlayersCella
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On October 23 2012 06:50 Thehealbus wrote:
Oh god, Jessica released the phone recording.
lol, this is better than TV drama. She's indeed tough due to the entertainment business experience.
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On October 23 2012 06:50 Thehealbus wrote:
Oh god, Jessica released the phone recording.
And why the hell is it "oh god"?
Why is everyone behaving like a stupid idiot as soon as Jessica actually does something right? Stop the bashing for bashings sake, its retarded. Thousands of people wanted that recording as a proof, now they have it, and its still wrong?
Just wow, seriously.
Edit: not to mention that even CranK is fine with it, ffs.
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Link to the call recording please.
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From what I can get from friend translation (non-official) regarding this tweet:
Cella is simply stating that he + coach (friend is unsure if it's coach or manager, could be boxer/jessica) went to talk to jaewon (crank) at his house before the fnatic match and asked if there were any problems, and crank stated that there were none.
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