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Frost
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1042 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 00:29:55
October 23 2012 00:23 GMT
#4121
On October 23 2012 09:16 Xiphos wrote:
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On October 23 2012 09:14 Frost wrote:
I can translate it for you guys, but I have to study for midterm so you'll have to wait for Seeker or someone else.


Can you please just type in one paragraph about the general gist of the interview. Like just cover the man points stated by Jessica and if she have evidence backing her or not. Sorry I might be acting selfish here...but the entire TL relies on you man lol



It's not an interview. It's the recorded call between Jessica, Boxer, and Crank in text form. There are two other articles in which Jessica responds to MMA's statement and also explains why she released the call and what she and Boxer did for the team. I'd like to translate but I really really dont have time. On the topic of the recorded call, basically Crank is a disgrace to the name of a pro-gamer and will always be one of the examples on why KESPA fans always shittalk about how GSL players are PC Bang amateurs treated as pro-gamers. (Note, this is the opinion of the netizens, not MINE)

Edit: Oh man, I just read Jessica's response to MMA's and MMA pretty much fucked up big time as well being the sole reason for why Coach Ryu left Slayers.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
October 23 2012 00:30 GMT
#4122
On October 23 2012 09:23 Frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 09:16 Xiphos wrote:
On October 23 2012 09:14 Frost wrote:
I can translate it for you guys, but I have to study for midterm so you'll have to wait for Seeker or someone else.


Can you please just type in one paragraph about the general gist of the interview. Like just cover the man points stated by Jessica and if she have evidence backing her or not. Sorry I might be acting selfish here...but the entire TL relies on you man lol



It's not an interview. It's the recorded call between Jessica, Boxer, and Crank in text form. There are two other articles in which Jessica responds to MMA's statement and also explains why she released the call and what she and Boxer did for the team. I'd like to translate but I really really dont have time. On the topic of the recorded call, basically Crank is a disgrace to the name of a pro-gamer and will always be one of the examples on why KESPA fans always shittalk about how GSL players are PC Bang amateurs treated as pro-gamers. (Note, this is the opinion of the netizens, not MINE)

Edit: Oh man, I just read Jessica's response to MMA's and MMA pretty much fucked up big time as well being the sole reason for why Coach Ryu left Slayers.


thank you so so very much man, yeah now go back studying you! lol
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
tubs
Profile Joined March 2010
764 Posts
October 23 2012 00:37 GMT
#4123
On October 23 2012 09:23 Frost wrote:

Edit: Oh man, I just read Jessica's response to MMA's and MMA pretty much fucked up big time as well being the sole reason for why Coach Ryu left Slayers.


Woah. This snowball just keeps getting bigger and bigger.

MMA was the sole reason for why Coach Ryu left Slayers?

I don't even... what the... this drama just keeps getting more and more intricate by the day.
"Roach dies to immortal and rockit black guy" - Tierdal.thex
.Wraath
Profile Joined May 2012
United States262 Posts
October 23 2012 00:42 GMT
#4124
Keep in mind this is a lot of "he said she said".

We may never know the full truth.
SnoLys
Profile Joined August 2011
149 Posts
October 23 2012 00:45 GMT
#4125
On October 23 2012 09:42 .Wraath wrote:
Keep in mind this is a lot of "he said she said".

We may never know the full truth.


The phone call was released, it's not just "he said she said" anymore, at least about the contents of the phone call.
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
October 23 2012 01:07 GMT
#4126
Any chance of getting a translation of the phone call and the other drama filled interviews from jessica? Really wish I knew korean right about now.
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
October 23 2012 01:20 GMT
#4127
On October 23 2012 09:37 tubs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 09:23 Frost wrote:

Edit: Oh man, I just read Jessica's response to MMA's and MMA pretty much fucked up big time as well being the sole reason for why Coach Ryu left Slayers.


Woah. This snowball just keeps getting bigger and bigger.

MMA was the sole reason for why Coach Ryu left Slayers?

I don't even... what the... this drama just keeps getting more and more intricate by the day.


Hmm, that's really interesting. Coach Ryu leaving Slayers basically kicked off MMA's decline. Maybe whatever caused Ryu to leave is the actual cause of MMA's decline.

Can't wait to get some translations to what's being said about this.

Also, it's not all that surprising that Crank got outed, I mean Cella (who's stayed out of this) even got involved in calling him out.
EvanC
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada130 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 01:32:04
October 23 2012 01:31 GMT
#4128
Man this is really sad, I feel awful for Crank, I feel awful for Jessica, I feel awful for the Korean scene.

Late teens - Early 20s shouldn't be putting the life into SC2 with no money or career plan... it just feels so rough to me... I wish I could do something about it.
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
October 23 2012 01:31 GMT
#4129
On October 23 2012 10:07 hunts wrote:
Any chance of getting a translation of the phone call and the other drama filled interviews from jessica? Really wish I knew korean right about now.


The first half of it was translated by someone over at reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/11wn9f/jessica_leaks_private_phone_conversation_with/
He says though that it's a VERY loose translation so keep that in mind.

Also, the TL discussion is currently happening in the "Crank and MMA's statement" thread
(translation of Cella's tweets by WaxAngel, and some basic hints what is in the interviews).


Maybe whatever caused Ryu to leave is the actual cause of MMA's decline.


According to the other thread:
(sorry cant find the exact quotes)
MMA introduced Coach Ryu to SlayerS as his personal coach. Jessica said she will not be able to pay him salary (my speculation: budget problems?), so if he really wants to have a personal coach he has to pay himself.

And this
"Jessica mentions in her interview with TIG regarding MMA's statement that Coach Ryu HIMSELF came to her because MMA refused to pay Coach Ryu's share from MMA's earning in Anaheim GSL which MMA and Coach Ryu previously agreed on a 8:2 share as Coach Ryu served as MMA's personal coach. So when Jessica went to MMA to talk about the issue, MMA gave Jessica a graphics card that he RECEIVED at the event." (someone said it was a 1000$ graphics card)
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
October 23 2012 01:38 GMT
#4130
Wow, they're certainly arguing a lot about their revenue splits over there aren't there?

This does make Coach Ryu's transfer to KT Rolster make much more sense (why break up a good thing?). It also makes more sense why MMA had a personal coach to begin with. I always assumed that was just Slayers playing favorites with Boxer's heir...
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3046 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 05:06:24
October 23 2012 04:50 GMT
#4131
On October 22 2012 08:44 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 08:38 Medrea wrote:
On October 22 2012 08:35 Xiphos wrote:
On October 22 2012 08:35 Medrea wrote:
On October 22 2012 08:34 Canucklehead wrote:
On October 22 2012 08:28 Medrea wrote:
On October 22 2012 08:13 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On October 22 2012 07:42 Fearest wrote:
All this time we're waiting for Crank's statement, and yet he provided ZERO proof. I would love to see Jessica's recording so we can see how much of a liar he is. I think Crank just want things done his way on the team house and when it doesn't, he try to take people to leave with him. I see this exact motion in many teams.


The burden of proof is on the accuser, not the accused.


There is like a one hour thing Jessica is gonna post or something.

For being one hour long it better be a raunchy sex tape.


I want her to release the tape, then for someone to translate the full hour.


Someone should stream it and live translate.


supernovamaniac is going to be flooded with PMs now.


OK so its settled. Supernovamaniac if its drama.

Smix if its sex tape.


[image loading]

aww yeah.

what the fuck...

EDIT: If I can get hands on the actual raw file, yeah I can do it. But there's no chance I'll get my hands on it.
ppp
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
October 23 2012 09:50 GMT
#4132
Hmm... why do they even bother playing the GSTL match early November instead of just withdrawing? What's the point... to lose intentionally or win accidentally? I doubt they will come out with a "this is our swan song" energy/vibe with all the drama baggage. And we'll get that sullen-kicked-in-the-face-puppy bench we sometimes witness when they were inevitably all-killed.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
October 23 2012 09:55 GMT
#4133
Was MMA (and other players) receiving any salary on Slayers?
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
October 23 2012 09:56 GMT
#4134
On October 23 2012 18:50 Elurie wrote:
Hmm... why do they even bother playing the GSTL match early November instead of just withdrawing? What's the point... to lose intentionally or win accidentally? I doubt they will come out with a "this is our swan song" energy/vibe with all the drama baggage. And we'll get that sullen-kicked-in-the-face-puppy bench we sometimes witness when they were inevitably all-killed.

There must be a ending to all dramas, if they lose, its a sad ending. If they win, they can cry and it would be a sad ending with hope.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
October 23 2012 09:58 GMT
#4135
On October 23 2012 10:38 Wuster wrote:
This does make Coach Ryu's transfer to KT Rolster make much more sense (why break up a good thing?).


Ryu went to Woongjin because it is a (much) better job than whatever he was doing on Slayers. It makes perfect sense in and of itself.
sekritzzz
Profile Joined December 2010
1515 Posts
October 23 2012 10:23 GMT
#4136
Wow i can't keep up with this story, seriously. Daily there is 20 new updates! Wish someone would make a gigantic blog post actually explaining the whole situation.

Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
October 23 2012 12:43 GMT
#4137
So MMA had a personal coach? That explains why he always had those perfect builds against Mvp.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
October 23 2012 20:18 GMT
#4138
On October 23 2012 18:58 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 10:38 Wuster wrote:
This does make Coach Ryu's transfer to KT Rolster make much more sense (why break up a good thing?).


Ryu went to Woongjin because it is a (much) better job than whatever he was doing on Slayers. It makes perfect sense in and of itself.


Oh right Ryu went to Woongjin, Clide went to KT.

But that's what I meant. I figured he had a pretty good job on Slayers, since they had sponser and were established enough to have a personal coach for MMA. I didn't know that MMA brought him along for the promise of splitting future winnings and that he had no involvement with the rest of the team (I can't be the only one who assumed he was a Slayers coach/employee who spent most of his time tutoring MMA).
TimeFlighT
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 03:37:54
October 25 2012 03:37 GMT
#4139
I read this from another thread but seems that this "Manager J" had a run-in with IPL in the past regarding money.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=377665&currentpage=22#433


geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8240 Posts
October 25 2012 05:22 GMT
#4140
So looks like the SlayerS drama is over?Rare to see no replies in so long.
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