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Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1934 Posts
October 13 2012 14:28 GMT
#1601
1. It was obviously meant in a sexual way. He said "I might only be interested in milfs and little kids now." This means "abuse" does not mean "beat in starcraft."
2. Nobody said it was rape, but it doesn't matter.
3. It may or may not have been a joke, either way it deserves suspension. Having sex with a minor is deserving of suspension and joking about having sex with a minor is worthy of suspension.

I just can't fathom how people can justify it.
esports
relic
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom148 Posts
October 13 2012 14:28 GMT
#1602
On October 13 2012 23:25 transcendent one wrote:
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On October 13 2012 23:10 diehilde wrote:
On October 13 2012 22:52 transcendent one wrote:
On October 13 2012 22:46 diehilde wrote:
funny how most people just automatically assume it was a joke. From his wording it seems pretty clear it was serious. Why is it so hard to wrap your head around the fact that the SC player you like so much likes to fuck 14 year olds?? Honestly wtf do people expect... Most young men who get so good at a video game that they turn pro have some psychological issues in one way or another. Im impressed that sheep seem to have absorbed the glorified image of e-sports that is fed to them by the industry so much already.


admit that you would fuck these

[Img of Olsen Twins]

in 1 second in a world where there would be no consequence

and lets be honest, 99,99% of men would

but as long as there is no proof, your assumptions are worthless

I just said its pretty clear it wasnt a joke. I dont wanna spark the discussion if its ok to fuck a 14 y/o if its consensual or not. There are certainly good arguments for both sides. Obviously rape is another story.
To answer your question: I dont know. Depends on their character. Im not interested in women i find to be dumb/shallow or unbearable in some form. Attractiveness is more than just looks. Im 26. I wouldnt completely rule out the possibility of a 14 y/o being attractive to me but judging from the 14 y/o girls I have encountered the chances are VERY slim.


that's not what I said lol

in a world where you knew there is no consequence at all, you go home, one 14 year old Olsen twin like that lies naked in your bed and asks you to fuck her

you WOULD fuck her in 1 second unless:

- you're gay
- you're asexual
- you're impotent

if you say you wouldn't you're lying. nobody cares about a realistic situation, since the whole topic is about a fucking JOKE. and also you would fuck her and you know it.

and hypocrites like you caused the whole drama. if you really can't tell whether a shy wannabe-mature young boy raped a 14 year old or he was joking, then you're 100% lost cause socially, you should never interact or decide anything with other people.


People actually think like you?

Fuck off.

User was temp banned for this post.
"machine say me he win again, but he lie"
ImAbstracT
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
519 Posts
October 13 2012 14:29 GMT
#1603
Apparently he doesn't know the half your age plus seven rule. Stephano Hraping?


It is either a really insensitive joke or statutory rape if true...
"I want you to take a moment, and reflect, on how much of a failure you are" - IdrA
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
October 13 2012 14:30 GMT
#1604
On October 13 2012 23:24 Leru wrote:
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On October 13 2012 23:21 m0ck wrote:
There is plenty of ambiguity, and plenty of room for people to read whatever they want into it.

Bling : you fcked a 14 y.o ?
Steph: 14 y.o.

That's ambiguous mate !
( Still I think it's a joke, but the guy with the ambiguity made me laugh out loud )

Yes, yes it is. At no point does Stephano himself indicate that that there has been a sexual relation. At most, his error is that he doesn't deny it. All we see is a conversation without time-stamps into which can be read a variety of meaning. You have one reading, but with the very limited knowledge we have of the situation, how can you even pretend to know what you're talking about?
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
October 13 2012 14:30 GMT
#1605
On October 13 2012 23:21 m0ck wrote:
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On October 13 2012 23:16 leo23 wrote:
On October 13 2012 23:12 m0ck wrote:
On October 13 2012 23:10 relic wrote:
On October 13 2012 23:08 mlspmatt wrote:
Seems a bit excessive. If he actually had sex with a minor then yeah, suspend him. But for joking about it???

Lighten up a little. Sex is good for you.


He claimed to have sex with a kid, an under-age child.. how exactly do you "lighten up" regarding that?

I don't care if he was joking, if I was to be found joking about that at work, I wouldn't be suspended for a month, I'd be sacked and the police would be contacted.

Some people really are clueless.

No, no he did not, you crazy fuck.


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"I have abused of a child yesterday" (what does that even mean?)

=

raping a child?

Only in your mind. Your making a reading of the conversation based purely on conjecture. There is plenty of ambiguity, and plenty of room for people to read whatever they want into it. You're choosing to view what was written in the most negative light possible. Why?


On October 13 2012 23:28 Luepert wrote:
1. It was obviously meant in a sexual way. He said "I might only be interested in milfs and little kids now." This means "abuse" does not mean "beat in starcraft."
2. Nobody said it was rape, but it doesn't matter.
3. It may or may not have been a joke, either way it deserves suspension. Having sex with a minor is deserving of suspension and joking about having sex with a minor is worthy of suspension.

I just can't fathom how people can justify it.



banelings
relic
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom148 Posts
October 13 2012 14:30 GMT
#1606
On October 13 2012 23:26 Kasu wrote:
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On October 13 2012 23:24 relic wrote:
On October 13 2012 23:12 m0ck wrote:
On October 13 2012 23:10 relic wrote:
On October 13 2012 23:08 mlspmatt wrote:
Seems a bit excessive. If he actually had sex with a minor then yeah, suspend him. But for joking about it???

Lighten up a little. Sex is good for you.


He claimed to have sex with a kid, an under-age child.. how exactly do you "lighten up" regarding that?

I don't care if he was joking, if I was to be found joking about that at work, I wouldn't be suspended for a month, I'd be sacked and the police would be contacted.

Some people really are clueless.

No, no he did not, you crazy fuck.


Yes, he did.

Before you comment please do some basic research, else you'll come across like a complete moron again.

The point he is making (that you appear to have missed/ignored) is that if Stephano was joking, the claim is not genuine, therefore he claimed nothing.

Your believing that it was genuine is unsupported by anything.


Have we determined that he was joking?

Even if he was, that's completely irrelevant, it's just not something you joke about.
"machine say me he win again, but he lie"
Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
October 13 2012 14:30 GMT
#1607
On October 13 2012 23:27 BoBiNoU wrote:
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On October 13 2012 23:11 Leru wrote:
On October 13 2012 23:03 BoBiNoU wrote:
Moreover for a non native,the english word abuse doesnt get the same meaning, but yeah understanding this would have taken some balls and intelligence that EG obviously lacks


I'm just curious, maybe you French dudes will enlighten all .. I saw multiple times that abuse isn't the same thing in French.. but knowing a little french, I looked up abuser .. and what a shock it has a pretty close meaning . I know it isn't as negative as in English, it means more something like "taking advantage" of something, maybe you can correct me if not ?

Still such a funny thread ! Keep it running yo !


In common french ( meaming slang use ) the word "abuser" is used in a lot of siatuations.
The general use now is for saying "going to far" not the puritan english word meaing ( ie abusing sexually someone ).
You can say to a friend "t'abuses" meaning "you're annoying".

Anyway not gonna go into linguistic explanations cause I'm not a linguist myself but i can totally understand the "misuse" of abused from stephano simply meaning that he might have destroyed some kid onthe ladder who surely complained to him afterwards and saying that he was only 14.
Then Stephano used that to make a joke about it with his close english friends and to make some kind of word play...

Of course he never used the word 'rape' or 'sex' in his exchange with BlinG.

Anyway haters joined the train wagon and EG once again proved that they dont care at all about their players.


This could be a legit excuse if he didn't say "I might be only interested in kids and milfs now"
Hard to talk about a ladder game on that one...
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
October 13 2012 14:31 GMT
#1608
On October 13 2012 23:08 mlspmatt wrote:
Seems a bit excessive. If he actually had sex with a minor then yeah, suspend him. But for joking about it???

Lighten up a little. Sex is good for you.

The question is: Was he joking? You CANT tell in a written text and have to assume the worst.

Sex isnt good for you unless you are in full control of it and NOT following your instincts to "just have some fun" and "lightening up" wont help solve such an issue. Remember the "box test" from DUNE? That is a really great way to determine if you are actually human or not ... although you dont have to use pain for it. Take your ability to control your "urge" to have sex with a willing girl as a measurement: if you can say NO to a beautiful and willing one you probably are human. Stephano strikes me as someone who doesnt have that kind of self-control from that "Dreamhack incident" a while back and his contract trouble with Millenium even further back. I might be wrong, but these are strong indicators that I am not IMO.
If you cant say what you're meaning, you can never mean what you're saying.
Raygun
Profile Joined August 2010
348 Posts
October 13 2012 14:31 GMT
#1609
On October 13 2012 23:27 BoBiNoU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 23:11 Leru wrote:
On October 13 2012 23:03 BoBiNoU wrote:
Moreover for a non native,the english word abuse doesnt get the same meaning, but yeah understanding this would have taken some balls and intelligence that EG obviously lacks


I'm just curious, maybe you French dudes will enlighten all .. I saw multiple times that abuse isn't the same thing in French.. but knowing a little french, I looked up abuser .. and what a shock it has a pretty close meaning . I know it isn't as negative as in English, it means more something like "taking advantage" of something, maybe you can correct me if not ?

Still such a funny thread ! Keep it running yo !


In common french ( meaming slang use ) the word "abuser" is used in a lot of siatuations.
The general use now is for saying "going to far" not the puritan english word meaing ( ie abusing sexually someone ).
You can say to a friend "t'abuses" meaning "you're annoying".

Anyway not gonna go into linguistic explanations cause I'm not a linguist myself but i can totally understand the "misuse" of abused from stephano simply meaning that he might have destroyed some kid onthe ladder who surely complained to him afterwards and saying that he was only 14.
Then Stephano used that to make a joke about it with his close english friends and to make some kind of word play...


I'm not sure how you could shoehorn "I might only be interested in milfs and kids now. Fuck." into that explanation about him beating a ladder kid.
BoBiNoU
Profile Joined March 2011
France181 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 14:37:10
October 13 2012 14:33 GMT
#1610
On October 13 2012 23:31 Rabiator wrote:
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On October 13 2012 23:08 mlspmatt wrote:
Seems a bit excessive. If he actually had sex with a minor then yeah, suspend him. But for joking about it???

Lighten up a little. Sex is good for you.

The question is: Was he joking? You CANT tell in a written text and have to assume the worst.

Sex isnt good for you unless you are in full control of it and NOT following your instincts to "just have some fun" and "lightening up" wont help solve such an issue. Remember the "box test" from DUNE? That is a really great way to determine if you are actually human or not ... although you dont have to use pain for it. Take your ability to control your "urge" to have sex with a willing girl as a measurement: if you can say NO to a beautiful and willing one you probably are human. Stephano strikes me as someone who doesnt have that kind of self-control from that "Dreamhack incident" a while back and his contract trouble with Millenium even further back. I might be wrong, but these are strong indicators that I am not IMO.


How stupid could someone be to belive this is true, I am always amazed at the stupidity of people

On October 13 2012 23:31 Raygun wrote:
I'm not sure how you could shoehorn "I might only be interested in milfs and kids now. Fuck." into that explanation about him beating a ladder kid.


Cause it is part of the joke duh.
You should try to use your brain a bit


Why would someone who commited a very serious felony in america ( I guess you go to jail for a while or get executed in that weird country for less ) would talk about it in the first place and use a monitored video game chat ( not talking about BlinG streaming here ) to talk about it -__-

GEEZ, people are seriously dumb nowadays
go m00
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
October 13 2012 14:33 GMT
#1611
On October 13 2012 23:27 BoBiNoU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 23:11 Leru wrote:
On October 13 2012 23:03 BoBiNoU wrote:
Moreover for a non native,the english word abuse doesnt get the same meaning, but yeah understanding this would have taken some balls and intelligence that EG obviously lacks


I'm just curious, maybe you French dudes will enlighten all .. I saw multiple times that abuse isn't the same thing in French.. but knowing a little french, I looked up abuser .. and what a shock it has a pretty close meaning . I know it isn't as negative as in English, it means more something like "taking advantage" of something, maybe you can correct me if not ?

Still such a funny thread ! Keep it running yo !

In common french ( meaning slang use ) the word "abuser" is used in a lot of situations.
The general use now is for saying "going to far" not the puritan english word meaing ( ie abusing sexually someone ).
You can say to a friend "t'abuses" meaning "you're annoying".
.

Ah yes, this is true. I hadn't thought of it. This may have been an honest mistake by Stephano. Granted, even in French it's not the kind of thing that I would casually say.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
October 13 2012 14:33 GMT
#1612
On October 13 2012 23:28 Luepert wrote:
1. It was obviously meant in a sexual way. He said "I might only be interested in milfs and little kids now." This means "abuse" does not mean "beat in starcraft."
2. Nobody said it was rape, but it doesn't matter.
3. It may or may not have been a joke, either way it deserves suspension. Having sex with a minor is deserving of suspension and joking about having sex with a minor is worthy of suspension.

I just can't fathom how people can justify it.


You and all the other drama queens is the black sheep in this community. I cant fucking believe people like you exist
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
October 13 2012 14:34 GMT
#1613
On October 13 2012 23:30 relic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 23:26 Kasu wrote:
On October 13 2012 23:24 relic wrote:
On October 13 2012 23:12 m0ck wrote:
On October 13 2012 23:10 relic wrote:
On October 13 2012 23:08 mlspmatt wrote:
Seems a bit excessive. If he actually had sex with a minor then yeah, suspend him. But for joking about it???

Lighten up a little. Sex is good for you.


He claimed to have sex with a kid, an under-age child.. how exactly do you "lighten up" regarding that?

I don't care if he was joking, if I was to be found joking about that at work, I wouldn't be suspended for a month, I'd be sacked and the police would be contacted.

Some people really are clueless.

No, no he did not, you crazy fuck.


Yes, he did.

Before you comment please do some basic research, else you'll come across like a complete moron again.

The point he is making (that you appear to have missed/ignored) is that if Stephano was joking, the claim is not genuine, therefore he claimed nothing.

Your believing that it was genuine is unsupported by anything.


Have we determined that he was joking?

Even if he was, that's completely irrelevant, it's just not something you joke about.

Yes, it is something people joke about. All taboos are. If you want to watch a whole movie dedicated to telling jokes like these, go watch "The Aristocrats".
Mr.Faces
Profile Joined June 2012
United States121 Posts
October 13 2012 14:34 GMT
#1614
On October 13 2012 14:12 PassiveAce wrote:
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On October 13 2012 14:05 Fyodor wrote:
On October 13 2012 13:57 Mr.Faces wrote:
A day doesn't go by without mindless drama like this. Who gives a fuck. He abused a 14 year old, boo hoo, everyone knows it's a joke. Somebody call the pentagon and end this threat to society right now. Get the french president on the phone, we have a code red situation brewing.

What's worse is that companies and sponsors buckle to idiots who care about this.

I put your evidence that it was a joke in bold.

You have to prove that he committed a crime, not the other way around.
His "confession" is pretty clearly just a stupid joke.


Precisely, our dear friend Fyodor here is clearly unaware of innocent until proven guilty. Specially in the web-gaming world where jokes revolving around rape/sex are sooo commonplace.
I shall prevail
Kasu
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom345 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 14:35:45
October 13 2012 14:34 GMT
#1615
On October 13 2012 23:30 relic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 23:26 Kasu wrote:
On October 13 2012 23:24 relic wrote:
On October 13 2012 23:12 m0ck wrote:
On October 13 2012 23:10 relic wrote:
On October 13 2012 23:08 mlspmatt wrote:
Seems a bit excessive. If he actually had sex with a minor then yeah, suspend him. But for joking about it???

Lighten up a little. Sex is good for you.


He claimed to have sex with a kid, an under-age child.. how exactly do you "lighten up" regarding that?

I don't care if he was joking, if I was to be found joking about that at work, I wouldn't be suspended for a month, I'd be sacked and the police would be contacted.

Some people really are clueless.

No, no he did not, you crazy fuck.


Yes, he did.

Before you comment please do some basic research, else you'll come across like a complete moron again.

The point he is making (that you appear to have missed/ignored) is that if Stephano was joking, the claim is not genuine, therefore he claimed nothing.

Your believing that it was genuine is unsupported by anything.


Have we determined that he was joking?

Even if he was, that's completely irrelevant, it's just not something you joke about.

We have Stephano's statement plus a bunch of smaller clues in the conversation. There is basically nothing to support the opposing view that he was serious except "I don't think its funny, therefore he can't have been joking", which is obviously bollocks.

I agree that you shouldn't joke about it, and I agree that he should be punished.

My beef is with people who insist upon acting like he genuinely abused a child and admitted to it over Bnet.
mAng3
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland9 Posts
October 13 2012 14:36 GMT
#1616
Nothing weird. for sure, this girl want this too. I know a lot of naughty girls at this age. They are just as guilty as he.
transcendent one
Profile Joined July 2012
251 Posts
October 13 2012 14:37 GMT
#1617
On October 13 2012 23:27 Djzapz wrote:
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On October 13 2012 22:42 transcendent one wrote:
On October 13 2012 22:33 Djzapz wrote:
On October 13 2012 22:21 dreadchup wrote:
On October 13 2012 21:13 one-one-one wrote:
On October 13 2012 21:11 Shakattak wrote:
On October 13 2012 21:09 Sea_Food wrote:
Feminazis in charge of killing esports.

I don't think women are the only people who get offended at the "joke" of a 14 year old being "abused"


I bet many of those who are "offended" are people who would laugh at the very same joke if made by a friend in private.



this could have been one of my jokes - and i AM a women xD

Hopefully you make your jokes in poor taste away from some of the people who may find them offensive. I personally am one to make really bad jokes too, but I make a valiant effort to keep it from my boss, and my mother.


a lot of people have a sense of humour like that. much more than you would think

I know a lot of people who went to med school. they had the most fucked up humour there. the doctors of the future. they used to play around with the preserved fetuses, and I could mention like a dozen even more disgusting jokes right off the top of my head. and guess what? one of them is an anesthesiologist, the other is a surgeon, the third is a neurologist now. those sickos save your mother and daughter and lover when they're ill.

these people (myself included) are far more intelligent and educated than all the dorks sending emails and know perfectly whats appropriate and what's not. and these are the intellecutal elite of the world. what you do is what matters, not what you joke about to your friend.

Well I agree. But also be realistic, this is a world with work ethics. If you're a public figure, everything you do can end up in front of your boss's eyes, and in front of your boss's boss. Doctors don't want to be joking about, for instance, killing a bitchy patient and no one will ever know - at least not in front of a patient.


the anesthesiologist guy once told a guy who was just falling unconscious "I will put my dick in your mouth" lol

ok that was a little bit sick, but we all laughed our asses off and of course he didn't do it lol

anyways what I'm trying to say is that these people know when they can do it and when they can't, but I'm quite liberal so to me these would be even acceptable all the time as long as they do their jobs right.
Rick Deckard
Profile Joined October 2010
90 Posts
October 13 2012 14:38 GMT
#1618
On October 13 2012 23:18 Rick Deckard wrote:
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On October 13 2012 22:56 Zane wrote:
What is the age of consent in South Korea?


Here's what I could determine:

At the national level there doesn't appear to be an age of consent for males, for females it's 13. Source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Asia#South_Korea

It's possible (just speculating/guessing) that the particular districts have their own rules on age of consent: For example the Seoul Metropolitan Police Agency recently listed the age of consent as 15. Source: http://www.smpa.go.kr/smpa2007/bbs/board/viewMain.asp?code=for_eng&num=1112&page=16&s=&c=&sort=&sk=&print=&onum=

I don't know if these are Korean or Western ages. It's also possible that an adult say over 18 paying a 13 year old to have sex is illegal.

In general my understanding of Korea is that it is very conservative regarding sex, and the average age of intercourse is probably higher than in western countries. For instance Korea has relatively high ages of consent for marriage, 20 for males and 18 for females. Also many Koreans believe the age of consent is at least 18.


Small clarification. The Seoul Metropolitan Police Agency lists the age of consent as 14, Western age. 15 is Korean age.

I still can't explain the discrepancy between the National age, which is 13 for females, and the 14 figure given by the police. Perhaps it is due to local district rules as I speculated, but that is just a guess.
Fearce
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark48 Posts
October 13 2012 14:38 GMT
#1619
Not like Stephano needs money anyways.
Its the manprobe!
transcendent one
Profile Joined July 2012
251 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 14:39:41
October 13 2012 14:39 GMT
#1620
On October 13 2012 23:28 relic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 23:25 transcendent one wrote:
On October 13 2012 23:10 diehilde wrote:
On October 13 2012 22:52 transcendent one wrote:
On October 13 2012 22:46 diehilde wrote:
funny how most people just automatically assume it was a joke. From his wording it seems pretty clear it was serious. Why is it so hard to wrap your head around the fact that the SC player you like so much likes to fuck 14 year olds?? Honestly wtf do people expect... Most young men who get so good at a video game that they turn pro have some psychological issues in one way or another. Im impressed that sheep seem to have absorbed the glorified image of e-sports that is fed to them by the industry so much already.


admit that you would fuck these

[Img of Olsen Twins]

in 1 second in a world where there would be no consequence

and lets be honest, 99,99% of men would

but as long as there is no proof, your assumptions are worthless

I just said its pretty clear it wasnt a joke. I dont wanna spark the discussion if its ok to fuck a 14 y/o if its consensual or not. There are certainly good arguments for both sides. Obviously rape is another story.
To answer your question: I dont know. Depends on their character. Im not interested in women i find to be dumb/shallow or unbearable in some form. Attractiveness is more than just looks. Im 26. I wouldnt completely rule out the possibility of a 14 y/o being attractive to me but judging from the 14 y/o girls I have encountered the chances are VERY slim.


that's not what I said lol

in a world where you knew there is no consequence at all, you go home, one 14 year old Olsen twin like that lies naked in your bed and asks you to fuck her

you WOULD fuck her in 1 second unless:

- you're gay
- you're asexual
- you're impotent

if you say you wouldn't you're lying. nobody cares about a realistic situation, since the whole topic is about a fucking JOKE. and also you would fuck her and you know it.

and hypocrites like you caused the whole drama. if you really can't tell whether a shy wannabe-mature young boy raped a 14 year old or he was joking, then you're 100% lost cause socially, you should never interact or decide anything with other people.


People actually think like you?

Fuck off.


you mean racionally?

yes.

If I was your boss, i wouldn't fire you for making sick jokes. I'd do it because you are dumb.
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