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On October 13 2012 11:20 Kare wrote:
EG has alot of big sponsors, and it is a huge organisation. With that in mind, why do people find it silly to punish one of their "star-players" after saying the things stephano did?
I dont really care about this at all, but I just find it funny that so many people enjoys the way the internet is going right now(trolling is so funny), even at the top of e-sports people actually joke about pedofilic things and alot of people in the community have no problems with it at all. If you even care a littlebit about esports and want it to grow, then you need to grow up first, honestly.
I am pretty surprised that the punishment isnt bigger, I guess EG is to greedy.
If a player would have made a similar joke in an interview at a big tournament or a show like SOTG it would have been a sufficient punishment. This however was a joke between friends.
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On October 13 2012 11:20 revel8 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 11:04 MaestroSC wrote:On October 13 2012 10:55 shizaep wrote:
I think what EG did is correct. They had no other choice really. They got complaints from their sponsors and they took action. They are a professional organization and they have to act professionally.
What I think is rally stupid is the community's response to a simple comment. In reality, nothing happened. Words were said. It may have been a joke, it may have been misinterpreted. Even if something bad happened, there is no confirmation past a rumor.
Why hundreds of people would send emails to sponsors over this just blows my mind? What do they think that they are doing great justice of something? This reaction to simple things like this is an aweful characteristic of this society. What are the really doing? its fucking simple. Sponsors read these emails and the big fucking message they get is "take your money out of esports. If you sponsor a team you risk ruining your entire companies name, by sponsoring one dumb punk who was making jokes on the internet." Everytime they read these emails, they get closer and closer to the idea of sponsoring these teams, and putting their money is a bad investment, and can potentially harm them a lot more than benefit them. soon sponsors will realize sponsoring a team with this community is not worth the risk, and will stop sponsoring these teams. And i dont blame em. After i got flooded with emails, I would pull sponsorship immediately, or at least gaurentee not to renew it depending on the contract. not worth the risk. The thing is, there is a section on Reddit called srs who orchestrated this campaign to email Stephano's sponsors on this issue. One of their stated reasons for this was because they did not like some of the comments in r/starcraft on this issue and wanted to 'punish' the SC2 community. So some of this sponsor contact is motivated by malice towards the SC2 community because they do not like SC2 or the SC2 community on reddit. Some of their actions are not because they were actually offended by Stephano's comments but because they did not like some of the comments about the issue on r/starcraft. It would be like if they read a post they did not like on TL and then decided to try and harm SC2 because of it. It is just spiteful. They are doing this not to punish Stephano but to punish the SC2 community because they don't like it, which is just malicious.
perhaps TL should add some questions to the sign up page to make sure you know your stuff to keep the SRS people out. Not stuff easy to find on the internet but something like
"You have 2 3/3 marines and a Medivac. Your opponent has 20 mutas. Who wins?" Every true Sc2 player knows the correct answer.... the Marines. Even tho that's not true, its the answer an SC2 player will instinctively go for ;p
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On October 13 2012 11:11 GreEny K wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 11:09 rysecake wrote:
This is why foreign esports are a joke.
People care more about the drama and the personality than the actual sport. What do you think would happen if a pro basketball or football player said this?
The absolute same thing, maybe even more. Why are people some upset about EG taking action? Honestly, do they not know how the adult world works?
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What an absolute terrible thing to say by Stephano. Some people just try too hard to be funny to other people sometimes and don't even stop to think about how offensive the things they are saying are. I won't be rooting for him anymore in the future.
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I love seeing the community explode like this. People are more wound up over players doing stupid shit than the actual games these days haha
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What did he say? Was it a racial slur? Attack on women? What?
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On October 13 2012 11:23 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 11:13 MaestroSC wrote:
No. This has nothing to do with esports or foreign esports. Esports are a joke because people are so busy trying to make it mainstream, that noone is having any fun. So the community shrinks and shrinks til its down to the minority assholes who are telling the players to stop having personalities.
Esports is a joke because people are more interested in shouting about the future and "whats good for esports" than shutting the hell up and just enjoying the scene that they chose to follow.
How about instead of constantly bitching and trying to fix shit, you just enjoy it. Thats why you came here at one point, but now you have it cemented in your mind that its not enough for you to enjoy it, so you need your interests to be mainstream.
Wow, great post, sir.
Indeed and not like it hasn't been said many times over either.
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On October 13 2012 08:34 shid0x wrote:
That's kind of bullshit to me.
When you hire a player like stephano you know he WILL do stuff like that,stephano is a real buzzmaker and he enjoys it.
Millenium had to face those kind of situations and even worse a lot and they didn't go apeshit for it.
Seriously EG i'm disappointed.
Really? I think you're wrong sir in the current scene these things need to be punished or the team image as a whole will suffer and there goes their money. As a community for now at least it seems as if we care about cleaning up e-sports and this is indeed something that if you're interested in cleaning it up that should be punished irregardless of who the player is. It sounds like you're thinking more from a fans perspective rather then an unbiased one.
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The only people hurt in this situation are the fans.
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On October 13 2012 11:27 BoZiffer wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 11:11 GreEny K wrote:On October 13 2012 11:09 rysecake wrote:
This is why foreign esports are a joke.
People care more about the drama and the personality than the actual sport. What do you think would happen if a pro basketball or football player said this? The absolute same thing, maybe even more. Why are people some upset about EG taking action? Honestly, do they not know how the adult world works?
I am with you on this. Irregardless of if he was joking or not, would you say something like this while you were working? I wouldn't think to say anything of the sort at my job. EG really had no other course of action on this one if you ask me; they did the right thing.
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sorry this type of joke is just not EVER funny. its really low.
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On October 13 2012 11:29 S:klogW wrote:
What did he say? Was it a racial slur? Attack on women? What?
He made joke about abusing a 14y that happened to be caught on Blings stream..
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On October 13 2012 11:29 EvanC wrote:
The only people hurt in this situation are the fans.
what about the girl that Satouri alleges to have raped? The sponsors having to deal with the PR backlash. Stephano himself. The tournament organizers.
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On October 13 2012 11:29 S:klogW wrote:
What did he say? Was it a racial slur? Attack on women? What?
Go to the first page of this thread and scroll down. There is a screenshot, you'll see exactly what he said. It was a private comment to Bling, people are making way too big of a deal over it.
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On October 13 2012 11:27 BoZiffer wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 11:11 GreEny K wrote:On October 13 2012 11:09 rysecake wrote:
This is why foreign esports are a joke.
People care more about the drama and the personality than the actual sport. What do you think would happen if a pro basketball or football player said this? The absolute same thing, maybe even more. Why are people some upset about EG taking action? Honestly, do they not know how the adult world works?
1_ It was a joke
2a_ It was a private joke with his friend so not a public declaration
2b_it was a big open provocation to make a volunteer remind of destiny (private joke with viewers).
Nothing is serious, no one is hurt.
Why shouldn't he be paid for that ? WHY ?
If you drive too fast on the road, if your boss see you do that, does he have the right of not paying you for this ?
ITs not his fucking problem what you say.
3_ Stephano was in FRANCE, he do what he want, on his free time it wasn't in a tournament, and he hurted no one.
He plays ? so just fucking pay him and let him do his work.
Sponsor are not happy ? Well they are free to leave and support a 0win thorzain or Idra.
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When you get to a place like this, you have to accept that you don't just play for yourself, you play for your team and for your sponsors. You represent their products and so you have to be careful how you reflect on them.
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On October 13 2012 11:29 howfateful wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 11:27 BoZiffer wrote:On October 13 2012 11:11 GreEny K wrote:On October 13 2012 11:09 rysecake wrote:
This is why foreign esports are a joke.
People care more about the drama and the personality than the actual sport. What do you think would happen if a pro basketball or football player said this? The absolute same thing, maybe even more. Why are people some upset about EG taking action? Honestly, do they not know how the adult world works? I am with you on this. Irregardless of if he was joking or not, would you say something like this while you were working? I wouldn't think to say anything of the sort at my job. EG really had no other course of action on this one if you ask me; they did the right thing.
He wasn't "on the job." I took it that the whole entire gist of the joke is that Bling was streaming, and he was doing it to cause controversy and get a laugh. Is it unprofessional? Yeah, but the guy is a teenager and plays videogames for a living so I have no clue why you guys expect so much.
Also, Ray Lewis KILLED A PERSON and missed no time in the NFL. Now he's in commercials. Where's the outrage about shit like that?
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a) it wasnt funny
b) hes french, so I hate him by default
c) the really scary thing is that some people in here assume he did it and then go on defending him. You kiddin me?
User was warned for this post
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On October 13 2012 11:29 howfateful wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 11:27 BoZiffer wrote:On October 13 2012 11:11 GreEny K wrote:On October 13 2012 11:09 rysecake wrote:
This is why foreign esports are a joke.
People care more about the drama and the personality than the actual sport. What do you think would happen if a pro basketball or football player said this? The absolute same thing, maybe even more. Why are people some upset about EG taking action? Honestly, do they not know how the adult world works? I am with you on this. Irregardless of if he was joking or not, would you say something like this while you were working? I wouldn't think to say anything of the sort at my job. EG really had no other course of action on this one if you ask me; they did the right thing.
A proper analogy would be: you whispered something to a friend in a bus, of which someone behind you recorded 6 sentences and then decided that, because they found what you said inappropriate, you should be fired from your job. In order to ensure that, and disregarding any and all context, this person mails copies of the 6 lines to your work and the people you know.
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