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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
Assuming of course that it was just a joke and not a statement of fact, in which case they did not go anywhere near far enough in punishing him. Honestly this was worse than what orb did, but stephano is hugely popularr, so they will be very careful of how they tread here, as kicking stephano from the team, not matter how justified in their and their sponsors eyes, is going to generate massive backlash. That being said, good on you EG. | ||
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Kasu
United Kingdom345 Posts
On October 13 2012 10:57 AnomalySC2 wrote: Or when he realized Stephano may actually have been serious. I still don't see why people are writing it off as a joke, I don't get that vibe at all. I mean, I sure hope he was joking, but I really don't see how that could be taken as an attempt at a joke at all. Its not a good joke, I agree with that. But it certainly fits a particular type of joke that young males are fond of. It's a definitive example of trolling. Shocking statement -> people don't take it seriously -> continue the act -> audience shocked -> got ya! Only the fact that it wasn't private kinda broke that down. If you genuinely haven't come across examples of this type of humour ("humour") it would certainly seem pretty suspect, but its pretty common. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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Snusmumriken
Sweden1717 Posts
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babylon
8765 Posts
On October 13 2012 10:30 emythrel wrote: You are talking about a physical act not words. Words (in general) can not harm anyone. I have the right to do and say anything I wish unless what I do or say infringes on someone else's right to do the same. Pissing on someone's shoes would physically damage their shoes, saying i was going to piss on them would do nothing. Being offended about something said to someone else is far more rude than expressing yourself in anger. Calling you a bitch once is completely acceptable. Calling you it 20 times a day, every day is not, it is abuse. There is a huge difference. Seriously, you can PM me can call me every name under the sun, I will not get offended because they are just words and besides I can swear in 5 different languages, I'm pretty sure I have been called it all before ;p You are operating under the assumption that words cannot hurt people. But words have and do continue to hurt people every day. (See: every slur under the sun.) Not everyone is you, and not everyone has lived your life, and not everyone has had the luxury to develop a "thick skin." There are people out there (esp. victims of bullying) who get triggered by sights, smells, and yes, sounds, including -- would you know? -- words. That is an uncontrollable, involuntary reaction, and people have every right to confront you for that, whether it's because they themselves are triggered by it, or because they know someone else who gets triggered by it, or simply because they know it encourages bullying. Your intention essentially means nothing once the harm is done. Your argument boils down to the following: "I don't get offended if someone insults me. Therefore, nobody else should! Furthermore, my right to free speech & the inconvenience of having to choose a different word or having to say nothing at all >>> the pain and/or significant discomfort of others." | ||
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SnipedSoul
Canada2158 Posts
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Noobity
United States871 Posts
On October 13 2012 10:51 PassiveAce wrote: Seriously... Blings face there... He's just like "Is that supposed to be funny? wtf?" It's more like he's saying "Oh shit, that went out on stream, he's fucked" | ||
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SilSol
Sweden2744 Posts
On October 13 2012 11:00 Snusmumriken wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/142/138/pedobear-busted-by-chris-hansen.jpg?1309465441) That post wasn't necessary at all man  | ||
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Gullis
Sweden740 Posts
On October 13 2012 10:55 Kasu wrote: Well he was grinning and typed "hahahahahaha" so forgive me, but it seems pretty clear he was amused. I did not watch blings stream but I did see the other picture of bling laughing, however trying to tell from Blings face if Stephano is joking is stupid and impossible . (I am gonna leave it to readers to figure out why that is stupid and impossible) I still stand by my previous comment. | ||
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MaestroSC
United States2073 Posts
On October 13 2012 10:55 shizaep wrote: I think what EG did is correct. They had no other choice really. They got complaints from their sponsors and they took action. They are a professional organization and they have to act professionally. What I think is rally stupid is the community's response to a simple comment. In reality, nothing happened. Words were said. It may have been a joke, it may have been misinterpreted. Even if something bad happened, there is no confirmation past a rumor. Why hundreds of people would send emails to sponsors over this just blows my mind? What do they think that they are doing great justice of something? This reaction to simple things like this is an aweful characteristic of this society. What are the really doing? its fucking simple. Sponsors read these emails and the big fucking message they get is "take your money out of esports. If you sponsor a team you risk ruining your entire companies name, by sponsoring one dumb punk who was making jokes on the internet." Everytime they read these emails, they get closer and closer to the idea of sponsoring these teams, and putting their money is a bad investment, and can potentially harm them a lot more than benefit them. soon sponsors will realize sponsoring a team with this community is not worth the risk, and will stop sponsoring these teams. And i dont blame em. After i got flooded with emails, I would pull sponsorship immediately, or at least gaurentee not to renew it depending on the contract. not worth the risk. This just in, for all the "This is what esports needs... were still where we are because we dont act professional!" you are fucking insane and ignorant. If your scene is boring and uninteresting, noone will watch. The problem already with SC2 is the majority cant relate because they dont play. And if you make all players afraid to be original or entertaining, then people who at least care about people, will not have any interest in it either. Maybe instead of focusing on being robots, we should focus on making the game better, and making our scene more inviting, more exciting, and something appealing to the masses. Cause you are working backwards. | ||
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yeeshdontjudgeme
146 Posts
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JackReacher
United States197 Posts
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zmansman17
United States2567 Posts
On October 13 2012 11:03 Noobity wrote: It's more like he's saying "Oh shit, that went out on stream, he's fucked" Yeah the fact that it was on stream, I'm sure, was what he was most worried about. | ||
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Fyodor
Canada971 Posts
On October 13 2012 10:59 DoubleZee wrote: I can't believe they came down so hard on the guy for this. It was a fucking joke. People are too god damn PC and sensitive nowadays. 1) It didn't have the commonly understood constructs of a joke (Punch line, set-up, etc) 2) It is by Satouri who has shown bad, anti-social judgement before. (arrests, controversial remarks, etc) 3) It was allegedly meant to be private. What makes you so sure it was a joke? | ||
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
i dont get it... | ||
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SilSol
Sweden2744 Posts
On October 13 2012 11:05 JackReacher wrote: Who snitched, is what I really want to know? Snitched? everything was broadcasted on BlinG's stream? So pretty much thousands of people saw it.. So yeah who got the screens? Kinda hard to know | ||
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
On October 13 2012 11:05 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote: You know what's ironic about this situation? Most of the community, including me, would have never even heard about these comments if EG didn't take action. I had no idea it occurred but thanks to EG overreacting I know now. Probably thanks to EG, the sponsors know too. It's not even a big deal. IT'S A JOKE. Why can't people joke anymore? Plus, don't even act like none of you have ever joked about something taboo. We're human, it happens. Also, they're professional VIDEO GAMERS. Video games are supposed to be fun. All you internet knights need to get over yourselves and have some fun for once. Unfortunately people (apparently the subreddit called /srs/) contacted the sponsors and forced EG to take action. | ||
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DoubleZee
Canada556 Posts
On October 13 2012 11:05 Fyodor wrote: 1) It didn't have the commonly understood constructs of a joke (Punch line, set-up, etc) 2) It is by Satouri who has shown bad, anti-social judgement before. (arrests, controversial remarks, etc) 3) It was allegedly meant to be private. What makes you so sure it was a joke? Really? You think that if Stephano was a pedo he would go around telling fellow pro gamers about it on b.net? REALLY? Come on... | ||
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pHelix Equilibria
United States1134 Posts
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Kasu
United Kingdom345 Posts
On October 13 2012 11:04 Gullis wrote: I did not watch blings stream but I did see the other picture of bling laughing, however trying to tell from Blings face if Stephano is joking is stupid and impossible . (I am gonna leave it to readers to figure out why that is stupid and impossible) I merely said that he thought Stephano was joking. That proves nothing about anything Stephano may have done, but it does prove: At least one person (BlinG, who actually knows Stephano) believed it was a joke. This negates the "I don't find it funny, therefore he must have been serious" argument. | ||
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