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Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
October 13 2012 00:33 GMT
#421
I don't know why some people here erased "abuse" from dictionary and try to rephrase it. Abusing a 14 yo girl, or whatever age she is for that matter, is an inappropriate thing to do/say anyways. Trying to define what abuse was when we don't exacly know what happened goes nowhere.
magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 00:34:24
October 13 2012 00:33 GMT
#422
This punishment will have the same effect on Stephano as would having sir scoots bend him over his knee and spank him with a wooden spoon.



Jochan
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Poland1730 Posts
October 13 2012 00:33 GMT
#423
Stupid shit, blown out of proportion. Nothing more, nothing less. This is downside of being on a big organisation like EG, things like this will always end up on a "safe side", with apologies and penalties. Doesn't matter if you think it's warranted that or not. Cost of doing business, let's move on.
"(...)all in the game, yo. All in the game"
zidaneshead
Profile Joined November 2010
245 Posts
October 13 2012 00:33 GMT
#424
Can't believe the amount of "Fuck you EG" posts in here. What do you think they were supposed to do?
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
October 13 2012 00:33 GMT
#425
It must be a nightmare running a company and being surrounded by unpredictable people who at any point can pull off shit like this.
McDutch
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands184 Posts
October 13 2012 00:34 GMT
#426
On October 13 2012 09:31 Okiesmokie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 09:29 SilSol wrote:
On October 13 2012 09:28 Fyodor wrote:
Did he really rape a girl? If he did, his contract needs to be terminated ASAP and be thrown in jail.

If he was kidding around and being a tard on the internet then EG is acting outside of their bounds suspending him for a series of comments that were supposed to be private.


Please he never said he "raped" a girl he said he had sex with a 14 year old girl and he said it as a joke which means its not true. But still a bad joke.

There is no reason to be ignorant in the information age. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statutory_rape


well, dont use "rape", but say "Statutory rape" then.. so everyone knows exactly what ur talking about..
naniwa, grubby, white-ra, ret
Maxhster
Profile Joined March 2011
Fiji473 Posts
October 13 2012 00:34 GMT
#427
oh and jochan sucks
rawr
splasha
Profile Joined August 2011
Brazil86 Posts
October 13 2012 00:34 GMT
#428
There are things you don't fucking joke about.
F U stephano
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
October 13 2012 00:34 GMT
#429
the eg curse strikes again, although a little more unique this time lol
savior did nothing wrong
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7291 Posts
October 13 2012 00:34 GMT
#430
On October 13 2012 09:32 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 09:24 Soma Cruz wrote:
On October 13 2012 09:22 PviLLe3 wrote:
On October 13 2012 09:21 zidaneshead wrote:
On October 13 2012 09:19 SilSol wrote:
On October 13 2012 09:18 Fission wrote:
I support EG's move completely. Personally, I am deeply saddened by those in the starcraft community who are defending stephano stating/joking that he raped a child. It's inexcusable.



Still.. he didn't say that he "raped" a child. You should read a bit more before you post like that.


Are you dense? He essentially admitted to having sex with a 14 year old girl. That is by definition statutory rape. Are you telling me if I shoot someone but don't explicitly state that I murdered him that means I didn't commit murder?


he used the word abused, maybe he meant his niece made a mess in his kitchen and he slapped her, thats abuse


Or maybe he abused kids in Starcraft? Like how people say that they rape noobs in games?


He didn't say "rape", but he clearly implied it. There's no argument over this whatsoever o.o

He said he's attracted to kids and that he abused a 14 year old girl. Even Bling picked up on the fact that that means sexual abuse, rather than any other abuse. What, he's gonna hit her instead?

He said he raped a girl, clear as day. Now, the argument can surely be made that he was joking/ trolling, but the argument cannot be made that he wasn't talking about statutory rape. Come on now.


Whoa now, slow your roll, you can't just say that its clear as day, as he did not explicitly say "I had sex with a 14 year old."

Now he certainly IMPLIED it, fairly strongly, but there is a level of ambiguity in his statement that warrants a certain amount of discretion with regards to how it's interpreted.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 13 2012 00:35 GMT
#431
On October 13 2012 09:14 vultdylan wrote:
EG making a bigger deal out of this than needed, and losing money from potential tournament wins Stephano could have had.
Dumbasses.


EG isn't really losing money from sending him to tournaments plus Stephano would keep his winnings.

I never even heard of it until now. Everyone assumed something was up when Stephano was dropping out of more tournaments and the trip to Korea would have explained a lot, but EG wanted to nip it in the bud before this got more steam and protect their image.

What I'm looking for is consistency and context. If it's in their agreement fine. So be it; you signed on the dotted line so you should know what is to be expected.
Fishriot
Profile Joined May 2010
United States621 Posts
October 13 2012 00:35 GMT
#432
On October 13 2012 09:33 Mouzone wrote:
It must be a nightmare running a company and being surrounded by unpredictable people who at any point can pull off shit like this.


Hmm, I had never thought about situations like this from the point of view of team management. That must sick dick.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
October 13 2012 00:35 GMT
#433
On October 13 2012 09:32 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 09:24 Soma Cruz wrote:
On October 13 2012 09:22 PviLLe3 wrote:
On October 13 2012 09:21 zidaneshead wrote:
On October 13 2012 09:19 SilSol wrote:
On October 13 2012 09:18 Fission wrote:
I support EG's move completely. Personally, I am deeply saddened by those in the starcraft community who are defending stephano stating/joking that he raped a child. It's inexcusable.



Still.. he didn't say that he "raped" a child. You should read a bit more before you post like that.


Are you dense? He essentially admitted to having sex with a 14 year old girl. That is by definition statutory rape. Are you telling me if I shoot someone but don't explicitly state that I murdered him that means I didn't commit murder?


he used the word abused, maybe he meant his niece made a mess in his kitchen and he slapped her, thats abuse


Or maybe he abused kids in Starcraft? Like how people say that they rape noobs in games?


He didn't say "rape", but he clearly implied it. There's no argument over this whatsoever o.o

He said he's attracted to kids and that he abused a 14 year old girl. Even Bling picked up on the fact that that means sexual abuse, rather than any other abuse. What, he's gonna hit her instead?

He said he raped a girl, clear as day. Now, the argument can surely be made that he was joking/ trolling, but the argument cannot be made that he wasn't talking about statutory rape. Come on now.

He certainly did not say that he 'raped a girl'. Jesus Christ, do you realize how irresponsible it is to make that kind of conjecture?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44257 Posts
October 13 2012 00:35 GMT
#434
On October 13 2012 09:29 SilSol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 09:28 Fyodor wrote:
Did he really rape a girl? If he did, his contract needs to be terminated ASAP and be thrown in jail.

If he was kidding around and being a tard on the internet then EG is acting outside of their bounds suspending him for a series of comments that were supposed to be private.


Please he never said he "raped" a girl he said he had sex with a 14 year old girl and he said it as a joke which means its not true. But still a bad joke.


Okay I'm gonna stop you right there. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statutory_rape

Having sex with an underage person is rape, because they can't give legal consent. Period.

I agree that it was probably a joke (and a terrible one at that). But still. Rape.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
igotmanatoblow
Profile Joined March 2012
33 Posts
October 13 2012 00:35 GMT
#435
How old is 15 really?

I dont think all 14 years old girls are so innocent as we imagine them to be. It does not make it right, but there are plenty of very young girls dating much older guys.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
October 13 2012 00:35 GMT
#436
On October 13 2012 09:30 Luepert wrote:
Finally a little discipline from EG.


Too bad nothing has ever happened to idra... But good move by them
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
October 13 2012 00:35 GMT
#437
On October 13 2012 09:23 Eusebiu23 wrote: what he said isn't something people should joke around especially since it's on stream. EG was right to do what they did, they are an official team with real sponsors, they would lose more money by losing a sponsor than stephano would by winning a tournament or 2 in 1 month. if you think what he said is ok, go to ur workplace in front of your boss and talk to your friend about abusing a 14 year old and let me know how that turns out for u. stephano is hired and gets paid, he has an image to maintain.

No no no.

1. I'm pretty sure Stephano didn't know his recipient was streaming

2. He didn't say anything against the law or even sexual — people are just inferring it. Realize that English is not his first language.

3. Your comparison is completely wrong, mostly because of #1 and #2. Intentionally talking within earshot is a different thing. Your example seems to imply someone who's [Engish] is of good quality, to which Stephano's is not. Lastly, you say "talk", while not mentioning/knowing that in Stephano's case it was very likely a joke and not recounting an veritable story.
"Then he told me to tell you that he wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire" — "Well, you tell him that I said that I wouldn't piss on him if he was on Jeopardy!"
bOneSeven
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Romania685 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 00:41:49
October 13 2012 00:36 GMT
#438
nice one community, he allegedly makes sex with a 14 yr old and he is rapist. Assuming that was not a joke, if it's consensual it's in no logical way rape, just because the law says something, doesn't mean nothing. The years argument falls short unless people reached puberty, since we only base these prejudices on cultural conceptions.

If anyone argues with my point, you can't drink until you are 21 but you can kill people for the protection of your freedom at 18 overseas.

The difference between a 14 yo mind and a 19 yo mind is massive I must admit, but still, if you want a number game thing, I think hitting puberty is legit.

PS: I hope I didn't read it wrong so I didn't write meaningless stuff

Edit: props for the dude who put here the video of Dave Chappelle. Also I might add, there are neighbourhoods where 14 yo girls carry guns and had sex for a while now. I'm not saying it's normal, I'm just saying we live in a very very colorful world.

Edit2: omg I should go to sleep, I don't edit all my text because it made sense in my head when I thought I read something else. I guess I should have went to sleep 1 hours before so I wouldn't miserably failed that last dota2 game before as well ;D

yeah, pretty bad joke, and if it's true....who knows...
Planet earth is blue and there's nothing I can do
iDope
Profile Joined October 2010
Saudi Arabia223 Posts
October 13 2012 00:37 GMT
#439
On October 13 2012 09:33 Orek wrote:
I don't know why some people here erased "abuse" from dictionary and try to rephrase it. Abusing a 14 yo girl, or whatever age she is for that matter, is an inappropriate thing to do/say anyways. Trying to define what abuse was when we don't exacly know what happened goes nowhere.


This!! Why is everyone forgetting that he isn't even a native English speaker. Anyway EG did what they had to do, there was no other way out of it. 19 years old exaggerate about so many things but I sure as hell hope he learns from this and really is more careful in the future both in terms of actions and words.
Fission
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1184 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 00:37:27
October 13 2012 00:37 GMT
#440
I am so sad at the number of people in this thread trying to differentiate between "legitimate rape" and statutory rape. Children cannot give consent, therefore it is rape. It is a criminal offence in every country I can think of, and the larger the age difference, the more likely it is that additional stronger charges (coersion by authority, exploitation etc) will be laid. Where you do rape apologists draw the line? When it's a 12 year old? When it's a 10 year old? Nowhere?

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