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red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
October 05 2012 15:50 GMT
#61
So oGs is having a reunion party in Romania then? The list of Koreans attending would have been exciting 18 months ago, but nowadays not so much, although theStC is at least decent. It will be interesting to see how Europe's finest stack up against these 3rd tier Koreans.
Putty
Profile Joined September 2012
210 Posts
October 05 2012 15:50 GMT
#62
Even if they can ban him, why do that ? He don't have maphacked or cheated in any way. He just did a little, funny scam.
Bumblebee
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3237 Posts
October 05 2012 15:52 GMT
#63
On October 06 2012 00:50 Putty wrote:
Even if they can ban him, why do that ? He don't have maphacked or cheated in any way. He just did a little, funny scam.

Are you serious? His actions put people in jail in a lot of countries. Luckily it got stopped before it became big or very very serious.
There is no difference between a knight and any other man aside from what he wears. @robinnymann
Putty
Profile Joined September 2012
210 Posts
October 05 2012 15:53 GMT
#64
On October 06 2012 00:52 Bumblebee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 00:50 Putty wrote:
Even if they can ban him, why do that ? He don't have maphacked or cheated in any way. He just did a little, funny scam.

Are you serious? His actions put people in jail in a lot of countries.


No, just no.
Bumblebee
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3237 Posts
October 05 2012 15:54 GMT
#65
On October 06 2012 00:53 Putty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 00:52 Bumblebee wrote:
On October 06 2012 00:50 Putty wrote:
Even if they can ban him, why do that ? He don't have maphacked or cheated in any way. He just did a little, funny scam.

Are you serious? His actions put people in jail in a lot of countries.


No, just no.

Yes it does. He comitted fraud exploiting a company for their money and their advertisement - that definitely can put people in jail and get enormous amount of fees.
There is no difference between a knight and any other man aside from what he wears. @robinnymann
Thruth
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland112 Posts
October 05 2012 15:54 GMT
#66
On October 06 2012 00:52 Bumblebee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 00:50 Putty wrote:
Even if they can ban him, why do that ? He don't have maphacked or cheated in any way. He just did a little, funny scam.

Are you serious? His actions put people in jail in a lot of countries. Luckily it got stopped before it became big or very very serious.


Can sb tell me what is he talking about?
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 05 2012 15:55 GMT
#67
Rooting for 45. Alien Invasion.
I wish there was a player named after a team.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Bumblebee
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3237 Posts
October 05 2012 15:56 GMT
#68
On October 06 2012 00:54 Thruth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 00:52 Bumblebee wrote:
On October 06 2012 00:50 Putty wrote:
Even if they can ban him, why do that ? He don't have maphacked or cheated in any way. He just did a little, funny scam.

Are you serious? His actions put people in jail in a lot of countries. Luckily it got stopped before it became big or very very serious.


Can sb tell me what is he talking about?

DeathAngel and VeraLynn cheated with their identities with streaming and coaching. DeathAngel played on her stream without webcam saying he was her and with that gained a lot of viewers being a good-gamer girl, made money off of that and got recognized with coaching and made money off of that too. It luckily got stopped very fast.
There is no difference between a knight and any other man aside from what he wears. @robinnymann
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33587 Posts
October 05 2012 15:56 GMT
#69
I wonder what team the ex-oGs guys and Sleep joined that hasn't been announced yet
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
October 05 2012 15:57 GMT
#70
Inca totally has this.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Rescawen
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland1028 Posts
October 05 2012 15:59 GMT
#71
On October 06 2012 00:48 Bumblebee wrote:
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On October 06 2012 00:24 TheSir wrote:
On October 06 2012 00:21 Mackus wrote:
DeathAngel, really Dreamhack?

I mean, really? Why don't you invite Spades while you're at it?


Invite? really?

It's a open and DeathAngel can enter if he wants to, DH has no legal rights to deny DeathAngel from entering.

Yes they can. DeathAngel has no special rights to enter. You can deny anyone access if you please.

On top of that DeathAngel has been involved in cheating/fraud, wahtever you wanna call it. Of course they have reason to deny him access.


calling it cheating is really serious and over the line. He is just trying to make some money to live for the passion of the game. It is so difficult for him to get noticed. I think there is big difference for what he did and what spades did for example. I do respect DH for not banning him and giving him another chance.

Cheating and smurfing is fundamentally different. So many people level accs and so many ppl troll lower leagues, should they be punished too?

Just because stephano and taeja seem to earning money doesnt mean anyone else is getting a cent.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 05 2012 15:59 GMT
#72
On October 06 2012 00:56 Waxangel wrote:
I wonder what team the ex-oGs guys and Sleep joined that hasn't been announced yet


Well, Nazgul is being a dick and hinting at Liquid for InCa (every time he roots for a player the rumours spread).

I'd guess Axiom. What about you Wax?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
October 05 2012 15:59 GMT
#73
I am actually quite angry at how people don't realise the seriousness of what he did and people react like "Shit happens but it's an Open Tournament" people dream to be a Pro-gamer and he took it for granted and exploited it, took everyone in the community for a mug and people are too deluded to realise it.
Bumblebee
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3237 Posts
October 05 2012 16:01 GMT
#74
On October 06 2012 00:59 Rescawen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 00:48 Bumblebee wrote:
On October 06 2012 00:24 TheSir wrote:
On October 06 2012 00:21 Mackus wrote:
DeathAngel, really Dreamhack?

I mean, really? Why don't you invite Spades while you're at it?


Invite? really?

It's a open and DeathAngel can enter if he wants to, DH has no legal rights to deny DeathAngel from entering.

Yes they can. DeathAngel has no special rights to enter. You can deny anyone access if you please.

On top of that DeathAngel has been involved in cheating/fraud, wahtever you wanna call it. Of course they have reason to deny him access.


calling it cheating is really serious and over the line. He is just trying to make some money to live for the passion of the game. It is so difficult for him to get noticed. I think there is big difference for what he did and what spades did for example. I do respect DH for not banning him and giving him another chance.

Cheating and smurfing is fundamentally different. So many people level accs and so many ppl troll lower leagues, should they be punished too?

Just because stephano and taeja seem to earning money doesnt mean anyone else is getting a cent.

It's not over the line. It's something people get very very big fines for if it reaches a certain level and can get jailed for as well. It's very simple, it's fraud.
There is no difference between a knight and any other man aside from what he wears. @robinnymann
ohampatu
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1448 Posts
October 05 2012 16:02 GMT
#75
What amazes me is the white knights fighting for DeathAngel.

Dude doesn't deserve shit. Fraud is Fraud, neither DeathAngel or Veralynn should be allowed in this community imo.
Especially since Veralynn completely straight up went awol, and neither DeathAngel or his team have made a statement.

If your not even gonna own up to your actions, why do you deserve a second chance?
I am become death, for I am the destroyer of worlds.....You will be missed KT Violet!!!
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33587 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-05 16:04:13
October 05 2012 16:03 GMT
#76
If a male pro smurfed for another male pro in a "regular" tournament, you guys would be going fucking insane
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4748 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-05 16:07:29
October 05 2012 16:03 GMT
#77
I agree with Bumblebee its very serious and should be treated as such.

Edit: Waxangel to be frank with every offense there is a number of people saying "its not serious", "it doesnt really matter| "its nothing", remember Dimaga in TSL remember Savior? Some people just do not see the bigger picture.
Pathetic Greta hater.
ohampatu
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1448 Posts
October 05 2012 16:05 GMT
#78
On October 06 2012 01:03 Waxangel wrote:
If a male pro smurfed for another male pro in a "regular" tournament, you guys would be going fucking insane



meh, what we have here is a case of the 'loud minority'.
i think very few people actually want DeathAngel in this scene anymore
I am become death, for I am the destroyer of worlds.....You will be missed KT Violet!!!
Perchloric
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil163 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-05 16:06:56
October 05 2012 16:06 GMT
#79
On October 06 2012 00:47 TheSir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 00:37 Noam wrote:
On October 06 2012 00:24 TheSir wrote:
On October 06 2012 00:21 Mackus wrote:
DeathAngel, really Dreamhack?

I mean, really? Why don't you invite Spades while you're at it?


Invite? really?

It's a open and DeathAngel can enter if he wants to, DH has no legal rights to deny DeathAngel from entering.

DreamHack has no legal rights to stop someone from participating in their tournament? I would love to hear how much you scored in your exams for your degree in Romanian law.


Well tell me on what grounds can they deny a player when they have a tournament open for everyone? They cant.
Btw Romania is part of the Eu, so i dont need to know crap about Romanian law.


Do you actualy believe that they accepted every single player interested in this tournament and in the end got an exactly 64 man bracket? lol DH must be the luckiest tournament in the world.
Rescawen
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland1028 Posts
October 05 2012 16:06 GMT
#80
On October 06 2012 01:01 Bumblebee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 00:59 Rescawen wrote:
On October 06 2012 00:48 Bumblebee wrote:
On October 06 2012 00:24 TheSir wrote:
On October 06 2012 00:21 Mackus wrote:
DeathAngel, really Dreamhack?

I mean, really? Why don't you invite Spades while you're at it?


Invite? really?

It's a open and DeathAngel can enter if he wants to, DH has no legal rights to deny DeathAngel from entering.

Yes they can. DeathAngel has no special rights to enter. You can deny anyone access if you please.

On top of that DeathAngel has been involved in cheating/fraud, wahtever you wanna call it. Of course they have reason to deny him access.


calling it cheating is really serious and over the line. He is just trying to make some money to live for the passion of the game. It is so difficult for him to get noticed. I think there is big difference for what he did and what spades did for example. I do respect DH for not banning him and giving him another chance.

Cheating and smurfing is fundamentally different. So many people level accs and so many ppl troll lower leagues, should they be punished too?

Just because stephano and taeja seem to earning money doesnt mean anyone else is getting a cent.

It's not over the line. It's something people get very very big fines for if it reaches a certain level and can get jailed for as well. It's very simple, it's fraud.


Well if you argue this way then our community is sexist for letting these women get extra attention due to the attention they get. I personally am of the opinion that is it just fine, but I have a friend/s who think it is absolutely unfair as well. Foreigners getting seeds in GSL is racist then? Correct if I am wrong.

I think what he did is obviously wrong, but the point I am trying to make is what damage did he do? Compared to maphackers that simply taking money that they have not worked for. Did DA hurt anyone personally, sure I met talked and played him on bn and he probably isnt the friendliest guy, but he had a solid reason which is money.

In my opinion something like this can only be allowed once, he does not deserve to eternally banned like for example spades.
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