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TotalBiscuit and Genna forms Axiom Gaming - Page 16
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Ventris
Germany1226 Posts
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States3343 Posts
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Lvdr
United States418 Posts
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NovemberstOrm
Canada15958 Posts
On September 28 2012 02:48 R3DT1D3 wrote: He's not the best caster but he has a unique position to be able to support this kind of thing so I hope he focuses on it and fades out of casting. Him having a brand(his yt channel plus his casting) is what is able to make this happen, content producing is important. | ||
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Giant Robot
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Panthae
Canada190 Posts
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SamsLiST
Germany184 Posts
Quote by Genna on relevant reddit post on future roster on the team Axiom: We are currently working on identifying potential sponsorship avenues. There are a lot of people wanting to speak to us on the matter, thus we felt comfortable with making the announcement. As of right now, we are pleased to have CranK as our first member of the team. We will be adding to the roster as things progress. I won't really commit to saying that the team will be 100% Korean but I would like the team to serve both TB and my hopes of bettering the state of eSports in Korea. At present many Korean SC2 players do not actually receive a salary or receive a small salary that does not really support a stable career. still, there needs to be one marketable foreign face in the lineup. Its close to impossible to sell such a package without at least 1 foreign storyline to identify with. Its a sad thing so many hard and professional working Korean players do not get any exposure/salary but lets face it: You can have 10 A/S class Koris in the lineup and still people tune in the streams of the IdrAs and Stephanos out there. And that is nothing anyone can cover, not even a TB and not a Husky. anyways, best of luck to you guys - E: btw I would be totally in for the job XD. I am cute on camera and shit too lol | ||
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Superiorwolf
United States5503 Posts
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Panthae
Canada190 Posts
On September 27 2012 12:29 TotalBiscuit wrote: eSports isn't technically in the name. The team name is Axiom and we'd hope that it's announced as such on casts. However, for trademark reasons and distinguishing ourselves from other organizations called Axiom, we put eSports in there (also because you can't get axiom.com) The team is Axiom, except when we need it to be Axiom eSports for legal reasons  AxE]Crank is just as awesome.  | ||
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Zandar
Netherlands1365 Posts
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Ein0r
Germany32 Posts
but I would like the team to serve both TB and my hopes of bettering the state of eSports in Korea. I dont give a shit about improving the state of eSports in Korea. I would try to improve the state of eSports in my own country instead. A mixed team is a good choice if you are able to overcome the language barriere you can really draw out a good amount of potential. But why wouldnt you want to see your country being able to compete with the top level Koreans? What exactly do you want? Except for easy money? | ||
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Appendix
Sweden647 Posts
On September 28 2012 04:09 SamsLiST wrote: still, there needs to be one marketable foreign face in the lineup. Its close to impossible to sell such a package without at least 1 foreign storyline to identify with. Its a sad thing so many hard and professional working Korean players do not get any exposure/salary but lets face it: You can have 10 A/S class Koris in the lineup and still people tune in the streams of the IdrAs and Stephanos out there. And that is nothing anyone can cover, not even a TB and not a Husky. anyways, best of luck to you guys - E: btw I would be totally in for the job XD. I am cute on camera and shit too lol I don't know. As far as I have understood things that is exactly the stigma they are trying to fight, and hiring a foreigner for that reason would undermine much of what their long term goals are. And I am not so sure having 100 % support from one of the most prominent figures in the gaming community, the casual as well as the competitive segment, is as weak of a selling point as you make it out to be. I am pretty sure Genna and TB have put a lot thought and effort into this. That being said, I'm sure their first and foremost goal is to be a viable competitive team and I wish them all luck and hope they find a roster they are happy with. | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5415 Posts
On September 28 2012 04:35 Ein0r wrote: What exactly do you want? Except for easy money? The morons in this community never cease to amaze me with the depth of stupidity they can stoop to. Want easy money? Start an eSports team! Said nobody with any sense ever | ||
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[17]Purple
United Kingdom2235 Posts
On September 28 2012 04:35 Ein0r wrote: Mh.. naaaa. I dont like that idea. Mostly because Husky is involved. I really started to dislike his work over the last year. So annoying, souch an incredibly pushy person. I dont give a shit about improving the state of eSports in Korea. I would try to improve the state of eSports in my own country instead. A mixed team is a good choice if you are able to overcome the language barriere you can really draw out a good amount of potential. But why wouldnt you want to see your country being able to compete with the top level Koreans? What exactly do you want? Except for easy money? This effort isn't about giving undiscovered players a chance to grow, its about player who have proven themselves to be skilled but still do not have the support they deserve. If you are able to find a player on the same calibre as Crank or other Koreans but still don't have a team/sponsor/salary backing them then go ahead and point to that direction. Also, TB has stated multiple times that he loses money when he does SC2 events and I would think that an SC2 team would be even more expensive than losing potential revenue from not making videos on his channel, so it is definitely not "easy money". | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5415 Posts
You can be a middling foreigner and get paid a salary, you can be a fantastic Korean and not get paid a salary. How is that fair? There is plenty of money in the foreign scene, not to mention the money you can make streaming if you have a decent amount of skill and more personality than a plank of wood. | ||
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Littlemuff
United Kingdom291 Posts
On September 28 2012 05:27 TotalBiscuit wrote: Quite frankly I find it hard to care about investing in the American SC2 scene when there are Koreans who have a higher skill level and are willing to work harder while not even getting paid a salary. Those guys deserve a salary. You can be a middling foreigner and get paid a salary, you can be a fantastic Korean and not get paid a salary. How is that fair? There is plenty of money in the foreign scene, not to mention the money you can make streaming if you have a decent amount of skill and more personality than a plank of wood. Well said. | ||
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R3DT1D3
241 Posts
On September 28 2012 04:04 NovemberstOrm wrote: Him having a brand(his yt channel plus his casting) is what is able to make this happen, content producing is important. Sure, but I would wager the majority of his fans and support come from non-SC2 casting (could be wrong but that's my guess from YT). It's like JP, he wasn't a good caster but he's doing an awesome job with content like Real Talk which you can't get anywhere else. TB's casting is ok but I think his other activities are much more productive and unique to him that are far more important than just filling in a caster seat. | ||
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Otolia
France5049 Posts
On September 28 2012 05:27 TotalBiscuit wrote: Quite frankly I find it hard to care about investing in the American SC2 scene when there are Koreans who have a higher skill level and are willing to work harder while not even getting paid a salary. Those guys deserve a salary. You can be a middling foreigner and get paid a salary, you can be a fantastic Korean and not get paid a salary. How is that fair? There is plenty of money in the foreign scene, not to mention the money you can make streaming if you have a decent amount of skill and more personality than a plank of wood. So because some kids in Korea are raised in pathetic conditions sharing rooms with 4 other people and training all day long, the rest of the world should do the same ? I don't have any problem with you sponsoring who you want but your reasoning is the principal reason there is thousands unemployed citizens all over europe. Yes there is ALWAYS people willing to accept worse conditions in other part of the world but that's no reason to accept that in our countries ... I am very shocked by that rhetoric. | ||
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Kerence
Sweden1807 Posts
On September 28 2012 05:27 TotalBiscuit wrote: Quite frankly I find it hard to care about investing in the American SC2 scene when there are Koreans who have a higher skill level and are willing to work harder while not even getting paid a salary. Those guys deserve a salary. You can be a middling foreigner and get paid a salary, you can be a fantastic Korean and not get paid a salary. How is that fair? There is plenty of money in the foreign scene, not to mention the money you can make streaming if you have a decent amount of skill and more personality than a plank of wood. Personally I've always been somewhat surprised that you can somehow can be a full time progamer with a salary and when asked about training in an interview they can reply something along the lines of "Well, I have been kind of bored with Starcraft lately, so I haven't really played much." If I told my boss I was kind of bored with my work so I haven't really bothered to do much lately he'd probably ask me if I shouldn't try to find another job. Now to be fair I suppose a lot of it could be just talk and whatnot, but personally I would quit my job if I didn't like it. It will be interesting to see where this goes, good luck to all involved. | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5415 Posts
On September 28 2012 06:08 Otolia wrote: So because some kids in Korea are raised in pathetic conditions sharing rooms with 4 other people and training all day long, the rest of the world should do the same ? I don't have any problem with you sponsoring who you want but your reasoning is the principal reason there is thousands unemployed citizens all over europe. Yes there is ALWAYS people willing to accept worse conditions in other part of the world but that's no reason to accept that in our countries ... I am very shocked by that rhetoric. I am shocked by your strawman argument (or I would be if I hadn't seen this attitude on a daily basis on the internet) because that isn't what I said at all. Perhaps you should re-read my post and properly comprehend it. Why should we "support" American eSports just because we happen to live there? That's not a good reason at all. | ||
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