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On September 27 2012 22:45 Otolia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2012 21:45 Mackus wrote:On September 27 2012 21:34 Delial wrote:
CranK is known only because SlayerS gave him exposure and created conditions to grow and become, what he is today, player with perspectives. He left SlayerS, and that wasn't clean exit, there was some drama. If I remember well he claimed there are some health issues with his neck or something like that. And now TB picks him up. Convenient. No love from me for this new team, but good luck nevertheless. Teams tried poaching Crank at last MLG but they refused a translator for him which is absurd and just for that I'm not surprised he didn't persue their interests. Really ? Would you hire a player that can't speak english ? Probably not. It's really beyond me how the scene keeps providing korean players with accommodations just because they are koreans and can't to speak english - which is hilarious when they live in one of the best educational sytem in the world. Did koreans help the foreign BW scene ? Yeah ...
This post and the other guy's post has made me lose faith in humanity, honestly it's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
If a Korean came upto you right now with pen and paper and started pointing at the dotted line, would you sign it? If yes you're an idiot because you could be signing your life away, you could be but you don't know because you don't understand fucking Korean - That's Crank's state of mind when teams approached him without a Translator.
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On September 27 2012 22:06 Delial wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2012 21:45 Mackus wrote:On September 27 2012 21:34 Delial wrote:
CranK is known only because SlayerS gave him exposure and created conditions to grow and become, what he is today, player with perspectives. He left SlayerS, and that wasn't clean exit, there was some drama. If I remember well he claimed there are some health issues with his neck or something like that. And now TB picks him up. Convenient. No love from me for this new team, but good luck nevertheless. Teams tried poaching Crank at last MLG but they refused a translator for him which is absurd and just for that I'm not surprised he didn't persue their interests. I wouldn't call it absurd. It's a sign of desperation. Imo when BoxeR entered SC2 and created SlayerS he had idea of team, that is more then a team, a family, and SlayerS were known for this family atmosphere. As time went by many players left SlayerS for foreign teams just for money Some exits were clean, some not. I think BoxeR realized that for players family team < money, and he left, back to old school Korean teams. ROOT is a good example of team being more then just a lineup of people, who still managed to hold on together. I just value different things I guess so...
So you're one of those e-sports fans who think that making money is voodoo? Money is good, Slayers had contracts, all ''exits'' as you call them are clean as long as no contract has been broken.
I wish all the best to Axiom Esports, I always enjoyed TB and Husky!
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Genna just started an AMA over on Reddit. GOGOGO
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Wish everyone the best! Hope Crank gets more awesome results. <3
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Maybe this has been asked, but I don't want to read 14 pages. Does this present a conflict of interest for TB's (and to a lesser extent Husky's) casting career? Isn't it a bit awkward to be casting the games of a player who's team you own?
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On September 28 2012 00:30 Nosforit wrote:
Maybe this has been asked, but I don't want to read 14 pages. Does this present a conflict of interest for TB's (and to a lesser extent Husky's) casting career? Isn't it a bit awkward to be casting the games of a player who's team you own?
That has been already answered.
On September 27 2012 23:59 betaman wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2012 23:17 brokenLoL wrote:
But won't TB show bias to crank whenever casting his games? Casters aren't suppose to show bias He showed very little bias during the games he cast of his during |MLG Raleigh when he bankrolled his attendance. You seem to be forgetting other casters associations with teams. Dignitas Apollo EG incontrol Root Axeltoss Root Rotterdam mouz Kaelaris Ironically, I would say the most biased caster is mrbitter and he has zero affiliations with any team. He is a good caster but when he casts foreign players against koreans he is quite clearly sad when they lose, especially zerg players like Idra (mrbitter plays zerg).
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Those guys are members of the team, not the owner though. As an owner, you'd have a vested interest in making your own players look superior, as its your own finances directly at risk. Conversely, you run the risk of making your own team look bad if you're critical of your own players.
Dunno, just seems a bit awkward to me.
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YEAAAAH !!! GO GO GO CRANK !!
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Given the nature of how eSports is currently operated, a conflict of interest is a pretty common thing. While there are some shady details regarding some things/players/teams that don't need to be talked about, hopefully as we progress as a hobby, we will move away from this type of activity.
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On September 27 2012 23:59 betaman wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2012 23:17 brokenLoL wrote:
But won't TB show bias to crank whenever casting his games? Casters aren't suppose to show bias He showed very little bias during the games he cast of his during |MLG Raleigh when he bankrolled his attendance. You seem to be forgetting other casters associations with teams. Dignitas Apollo EG incontrol Root Axeltoss Root Rotterdam mouz Kaelaris Ironically, I would say the most biased caster is mrbitter and he has zero affiliations with any team. He is a good caster but when he casts foreign players against koreans he is quite clearly sad when they lose, especially zerg players like Idra (mrbitter plays zerg).
You forgot that Tastosis' webshop sponsors TSL. Not as direct of a connection as being part of the team, but clearly a conflict of interest.
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Seriously, Why cant TB become the president of esports?
this is so cool! GOGO TB and CranK!
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Sad that TB didn't post this himself. 
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Cool, and congrats to Crank yo
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WOO sick TB  and Crank on a team :D just hope they can pick up some more good players (perhaps NSHS reform und Axiom gaming  )
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TB is making it so hard for me to dislike him...
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On September 28 2012 00:51 Nosforit wrote:
Those guys are members of the team, not the owner though. As an owner, you'd have a vested interest in making your own players look superior, as its your own finances directly at risk. Conversely, you run the risk of making your own team look bad if you're critical of your own players.
Dunno, just seems a bit awkward to me.
I don’t see how that is that different that being on the same team. If you make your team look good or if your teammates do well, you attract more sponsors to your team and you in turn you get a better salary. Also you are more likely to be friends with your teammates than your employees.
On September 27 2012 23:59 betaman wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2012 23:17 brokenLoL wrote:
He showed very little bias during the games he cast of his during |MLG Raleigh when he bankrolled his attendance. You seem to be forgetting other casters associations with teams.
Dignitas Apollo
EG incontrol
Root Axeltoss
Root Rotterdam
mouz Kaelaris
Ironically, I would say the most biased caster is mrbitter and he has zero affiliations with any team. He is a good caster but when he casts foreign players against koreans he is quite clearly sad when they lose, especially zerg players like Idra (mrbitter plays zerg). You forgot that Tastosis' webshop sponsors TSL. Not as direct of a connection as being part of the team, but clearly a conflict of interest.
Yeh, I just highlighted a few of the most obvious ones, most casters have some team association. For instance, DJwheat's twitch channel hosts the EGMC and his talk shows have a strong EG presence.
A good caster should be able to hide any bias he may have, if not, it is our job to pull them up on it.
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King of the web and king of Esport. Hope to see merchandising really soon
Good luck to all of them ! You will have my support !
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On September 28 2012 00:51 Nosforit wrote:
Those guys are members of the team, not the owner though. As an owner, you'd have a vested interest in making your own players look superior, as its your own finances directly at risk. Conversely, you run the risk of making your own team look bad if you're critical of your own players.
Dunno, just seems a bit awkward to me.
That's a weird distinction. Why would someone that's being payed by a team be less interested in making their team look better? I fail to see why TB (who that have proven over and over again that he's not afraid to alienate people) would be less biased than any other caster or host that's involved with different teams and businesses.
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wow nice and gL to crank tb and everyone involved even though the logo could have been better
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On September 27 2012 22:36 indxrje wrote:
What a horrible name
Thanks for your naming advice, indxrjeasdwerdfdga
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