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Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
September 26 2012 16:25 GMT
#41
On September 27 2012 01:24 Burns wrote:
There has to be a reason for MLG inviting that many kespa players over esf players. I expect an announcement from mlg soon then, hopefully they have a solid reasoning other then kespa players are more attractive.

Yes, the reasoning is... Kespa and MLG have a partnership.
HOLY CHECK!
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 26 2012 16:29 GMT
#42
Well it's not like I cared about MLG anyway
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LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
September 26 2012 16:29 GMT
#43
soooooooooooooo who is replacing them then?
JD, need I say more? :D
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
September 26 2012 16:30 GMT
#44
ESF pulled a NASL2 on MLG although for completely different reasons
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
September 26 2012 16:30 GMT
#45
Good. We don't need this from MLG and KESPA.
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
September 26 2012 16:31 GMT
#46
This makes me so happy. The previous MLG money grabbing PPV incident, then the announcement of this one... has just made me a bit sour with them.

I'm always happy for more and more Starcraft but I thought this KESPA hand feeding invites was a bit silly, especially since they have proven to be worthy of qualifying through the same methods as every other SC2 player.

I'm proud of ESF and back them 100%.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
KissMeRed
Profile Joined June 2012
United States96 Posts
September 26 2012 16:32 GMT
#47
Wow, the ESF players should be happy they even have the opportunity to stomp some KESPA players (not that they necessarily would). With this type of policy, the future of the ESF teams seems quite grim.

On a side note, to anyone who said, "Wasn't going to watch anyway, PPV." What is wrong with you! Don't you at least want to see some results?!?!?
Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
September 26 2012 16:33 GMT
#48
8 invites vs 24 kinda stings, but then again this is Kespa vs MLG, not MLG vs MLG. It should've been 24 seeds for Kespa, 24 seeds for non-Kespa korean teams and foreigners who live in korea (because of lag).
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
September 26 2012 16:34 GMT
#49
I understand why ESF would want to pull out, i'm sure most people do as well. However this will cut the viewer numbers since it's going to be for the most part kespa man-handling foreigners.


And a lot of mid-tier foreigners you have to say besides Stephano and maybe Thorzain and Nani, but both seem to be in a little slump. No Nerchio, Scarlett, Lucifron, Vortix, Kas etc.
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
September 26 2012 16:35 GMT
#50
On September 27 2012 01:32 KissMeRed wrote:
Wow, the ESF players should be happy they even have the opportunity to stomp some KESPA players (not that they necessarily would). With this type of policy, the future of the ESF teams seems quite grim.

On a side note, to anyone who said, "Wasn't going to watch anyway, PPV." What is wrong with you! Don't you at least want to see some results?!?!?

OSL has ESF vs Kespa, so does GSL.
HOLY CHECK!
FlukyS
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland485 Posts
September 26 2012 16:35 GMT
#51
Id say the format was something to do with it, 24 kespa players and 8 KR players I don't think many would enjoy that kind of odds.
freerolll
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Belgium1056 Posts
September 26 2012 16:36 GMT
#52
On September 27 2012 01:30 udgnim wrote:
ESF pulled a NASL2 on MLG although for completely different reasons



why? they didnt agree to anything they Declined the invations!
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Herry
Profile Joined March 2011
England681 Posts
September 26 2012 16:38 GMT
#53
I dont really get this move. just makes things worse, can't we just move past branding groups of players and tournaments. :/
aristarchus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States652 Posts
September 26 2012 16:38 GMT
#54
Good job for ESF! Kespa demanding advantages in a tournament in exchange for competing is insane. And any tournament that agrees to it is even more insane. Frankly, this shouldn't just be ESF. No one should be willing to compete in a tournament where players aren't all on equal footing, regardless of what team they're on.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
September 26 2012 16:39 GMT
#55
On September 27 2012 01:23 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
where is it stated that they have to invite the same amount of both organizations?
i mean cmon...its obvious that MLG wants to get attention by being the first foreign tournament where alot of kespa players are playing...



They don't have to make it fair, their also isn't anything saying ESF has to participate.
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liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
September 26 2012 16:40 GMT
#56
On September 27 2012 01:38 Herry wrote:
I dont really get this move. just makes things worse, can't we just move past branding groups of players and tournaments. :/


KeSPA is the source of this, and good luck getting that to cease existence.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
September 26 2012 16:40 GMT
#57
Wow, this war is getting better and better.

I agree with FXOBoss, ESF players have kept the MLG interesting, practically moved their SC2 division out of the black. And this is what they get in return.

On the other hand, from what I understand MVP is MLG-KeSPA joint venture so they can do as they please. Now watch how KeSPA retaliates by pulling their players out of GSL Season 5...
KissMeRed
Profile Joined June 2012
United States96 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 16:42:44
September 26 2012 16:41 GMT
#58
On September 27 2012 01:35 Lonyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 01:32 KissMeRed wrote:
Wow, the ESF players should be happy they even have the opportunity to stomp some KESPA players (not that they necessarily would). With this type of policy, the future of the ESF teams seems quite grim.

On a side note, to anyone who said, "Wasn't going to watch anyway, PPV." What is wrong with you! Don't you at least want to see some results?!?!?

OSL has ESF vs Kespa, so does GSL.


I know, and the ESF should be happy to have chances to play KESPA in those tournaments too. These are obviously two opposing organizations. One quite established, KESPA. The other an upstart in comparison, ESF.

If ESF wants to survive in the industry, they need to win over KESPA players whenever possible. Otherwise, the best ESF players will just be poached by KESPA teams when the transfer ban is lifted and ESF teams will collapse.
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
September 26 2012 16:42 GMT
#59
On September 27 2012 01:40 Roman666 wrote:
Wow, this war is getting better and better.

I agree with FXOBoss, ESF players have kept the MLG interesting, practically moved their SC2 division out of the black. And this is what they get in return.

On the other hand, from what I understand MVP is MLG-KeSPA joint venture so they can do as they please. Now watch how KeSPA retaliates by pulling their players out of GSL Season 5...


Oh how I would feel for Rain and wish to the gods he could leave and join <X> non-KeSPA team (but I guess he's locked)
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
AlmondCS
Profile Joined November 2011
33 Posts
September 26 2012 16:42 GMT
#60
On September 27 2012 01:24 Burns wrote:
There has to be a reason for MLG inviting that many kespa players over esf players. I expect an announcement from mlg soon then, hopefully they have a solid reasoning other then kespa players are more attractive.


uh... coz it's MLG vs KESPA. MLG invites (includes esf) get half, kespa get the other half of the invites. please read first before commenting.
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