• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:33
CEST 06:33
KST 13:33
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202543Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up5LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments3[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced58
StarCraft 2
General
Clem Interview: "PvT is a bit insane right now" Serral wins EWC 2025 TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy Would you prefer the game to be balanced around top-tier pro level or average pro level? Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays $5,000 WardiTV Summer Championship 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars
Brood War
General
How do the new Battle.net ranks translate? BW General Discussion Which top zerg/toss will fail in qualifiers? Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced Nobody gona talk about this year crazy qualifiers?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Bitcoin discussion thread 9/11 Anniversary
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 700 users

[MLG] Fall Season Broadcast Schedule - Page 15

Forum Index > SC2 General
285 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 13 14 15 All
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
September 29 2012 03:47 GMT
#281
On September 29 2012 11:34 Ambidexter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 07:12 NOOBALOPSE wrote:
On September 26 2012 07:10 laLAlA[uC] wrote:
On September 26 2012 07:05 NOOBALOPSE wrote:
Again with the Pay Per View. omfg.... Really I hope no one buys it.


But look at the player list! It's so tempting

Don't, we need to teach them fuckers a lil lesson.
IDK why they're doing it again if last time they lost too many views. Fucking don't learn lessons.


........and this is why we cannot have nice things. I have a dream that someday our community grows up to understand that production costs money.


Well it does and Dreamhack has showed the way they keep an incredible high production value while maintaining a good business. Pay per view with online content casted from replays is close to a rip off. I'm wondering if MLG is going to try to sell sand in sahara next
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Imbu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States903 Posts
September 29 2012 03:52 GMT
#282
On September 29 2012 12:47 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 11:34 Ambidexter wrote:
On September 26 2012 07:12 NOOBALOPSE wrote:
On September 26 2012 07:10 laLAlA[uC] wrote:
On September 26 2012 07:05 NOOBALOPSE wrote:
Again with the Pay Per View. omfg.... Really I hope no one buys it.


But look at the player list! It's so tempting

Don't, we need to teach them fuckers a lil lesson.
IDK why they're doing it again if last time they lost too many views. Fucking don't learn lessons.


........and this is why we cannot have nice things. I have a dream that someday our community grows up to understand that production costs money.


Well it does and Dreamhack has showed the way they keep an incredible high production value while maintaining a good business. Pay per view with online content casted from replays is close to a rip off. I'm wondering if MLG is going to try to sell sand in sahara next


The only problem I have with Dreamhack constantly being mentioned as a good model is are they actually making enough money to become sustainable? To my knowledge, there haven't been any numbers publicized from them about how successful each one of their tournaments are, while FXOBoss wrote a blog once stating that the majority of online/stream tournaments run huge losses.
@DreamingBird
brokenLoL
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom419 Posts
September 29 2012 04:02 GMT
#283
Can't wait for some KeSPA at mlg offline. This will be so sick. Coi might go to Texas for thus.
Save me from myself
SweetNJoshSauce
Profile Joined July 2010
United States468 Posts
September 29 2012 04:06 GMT
#284
Typical MLG. Amazing to see how bad they have gotten in just 1 year
Ambidexter
Profile Joined May 2010
United States23 Posts
September 29 2012 04:46 GMT
#285
On September 29 2012 12:47 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 11:34 Ambidexter wrote:
On September 26 2012 07:12 NOOBALOPSE wrote:
On September 26 2012 07:10 laLAlA[uC] wrote:
On September 26 2012 07:05 NOOBALOPSE wrote:
Again with the Pay Per View. omfg.... Really I hope no one buys it.


But look at the player list! It's so tempting

Don't, we need to teach them fuckers a lil lesson.
IDK why they're doing it again if last time they lost too many views. Fucking don't learn lessons.


........and this is why we cannot have nice things. I have a dream that someday our community grows up to understand that production costs money.


Well it does and Dreamhack has showed the way they keep an incredible high production value while maintaining a good business. Pay per view with online content casted from replays is close to a rip off. I'm wondering if MLG is going to try to sell sand in sahara next


Imbu asks the right question about Dreamhack a few posts above mine. Until we know more about their finances (not that it's our business to know) or see them sustain in the long run we won't know if their model is any good (as a business).

But the bigger mystery for me is how PPV content - cast from replays OR live games - can be considered a ripoff. Don't we generally agree that casting games adds value? What about the value of gathering the players, producing graphics etc, enforcing fair games? Don't we generally pay money for things of value?

Btw, it is of course completely reasonable to say 'I don't want to pay for that' if you don't find those things worth the cost. But that's a different point.
Starcraft is frustration mixed with self-doubt, a game populated by the most masochistic bunch of gamers who all collectively wallow in a feeling of self-disgust at how horrible they are, even if they are decent.
[sPoOn]
Profile Joined April 2011
United States29 Posts
September 30 2012 07:06 GMT
#286
Axeltoss' name is Alex Rodriguez?? And he works in NEW YORK?

CHECK MATE
You may run, but be prepared to feel a sharp and fatal pain between your shoulder blades.
Prev 1 13 14 15 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Monday
00:00
#43
davetesta31
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SpeCial 351
StarCraft: Brood War
ggaemo 802
Zeus 603
Dewaltoss 59
Aegong 53
Noble 16
Icarus 10
Stormgate
WinterStarcraft1104
-ZergGirl41
Dota 2
monkeys_forever508
Other Games
summit1g8410
Fnx 1881
shahzam1402
ViBE204
Maynarde126
Tasteless13
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick924
BasetradeTV25
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 49
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Diggity6
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1711
Other Games
• Scarra1178
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Summer Champion…
6h 27m
Stormgate Nexus
9h 27m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
11h 27m
The PondCast
1d 5h
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 6h
Replay Cast
1d 19h
LiuLi Cup
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
[ Show More ]
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
CSO Cup
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
RotterdaM Event
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.