• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 02:26
CET 08:26
KST 16:26
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13
Community News
[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation12Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA8StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7
StarCraft 2
General
Zerg is losing its identity in StarCraft 2 Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview [TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ What happened to TvZ on Retro? SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] RO32 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
PvZ map balance Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers How to stay on top of macro?
Other Games
General Games
Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Clair Obscur - Expedition 33
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2073 users

[MLG] Fall Season Broadcast Schedule - Page 15

Forum Index > SC2 General
285 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 13 14 15 All
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
September 29 2012 03:47 GMT
#281
On September 29 2012 11:34 Ambidexter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 07:12 NOOBALOPSE wrote:
On September 26 2012 07:10 laLAlA[uC] wrote:
On September 26 2012 07:05 NOOBALOPSE wrote:
Again with the Pay Per View. omfg.... Really I hope no one buys it.


But look at the player list! It's so tempting

Don't, we need to teach them fuckers a lil lesson.
IDK why they're doing it again if last time they lost too many views. Fucking don't learn lessons.


........and this is why we cannot have nice things. I have a dream that someday our community grows up to understand that production costs money.


Well it does and Dreamhack has showed the way they keep an incredible high production value while maintaining a good business. Pay per view with online content casted from replays is close to a rip off. I'm wondering if MLG is going to try to sell sand in sahara next
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Imbu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States903 Posts
September 29 2012 03:52 GMT
#282
On September 29 2012 12:47 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 11:34 Ambidexter wrote:
On September 26 2012 07:12 NOOBALOPSE wrote:
On September 26 2012 07:10 laLAlA[uC] wrote:
On September 26 2012 07:05 NOOBALOPSE wrote:
Again with the Pay Per View. omfg.... Really I hope no one buys it.


But look at the player list! It's so tempting

Don't, we need to teach them fuckers a lil lesson.
IDK why they're doing it again if last time they lost too many views. Fucking don't learn lessons.


........and this is why we cannot have nice things. I have a dream that someday our community grows up to understand that production costs money.


Well it does and Dreamhack has showed the way they keep an incredible high production value while maintaining a good business. Pay per view with online content casted from replays is close to a rip off. I'm wondering if MLG is going to try to sell sand in sahara next


The only problem I have with Dreamhack constantly being mentioned as a good model is are they actually making enough money to become sustainable? To my knowledge, there haven't been any numbers publicized from them about how successful each one of their tournaments are, while FXOBoss wrote a blog once stating that the majority of online/stream tournaments run huge losses.
@DreamingBird
brokenLoL
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom419 Posts
September 29 2012 04:02 GMT
#283
Can't wait for some KeSPA at mlg offline. This will be so sick. Coi might go to Texas for thus.
Save me from myself
SweetNJoshSauce
Profile Joined July 2010
United States468 Posts
September 29 2012 04:06 GMT
#284
Typical MLG. Amazing to see how bad they have gotten in just 1 year
Ambidexter
Profile Joined May 2010
United States23 Posts
September 29 2012 04:46 GMT
#285
On September 29 2012 12:47 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 11:34 Ambidexter wrote:
On September 26 2012 07:12 NOOBALOPSE wrote:
On September 26 2012 07:10 laLAlA[uC] wrote:
On September 26 2012 07:05 NOOBALOPSE wrote:
Again with the Pay Per View. omfg.... Really I hope no one buys it.


But look at the player list! It's so tempting

Don't, we need to teach them fuckers a lil lesson.
IDK why they're doing it again if last time they lost too many views. Fucking don't learn lessons.


........and this is why we cannot have nice things. I have a dream that someday our community grows up to understand that production costs money.


Well it does and Dreamhack has showed the way they keep an incredible high production value while maintaining a good business. Pay per view with online content casted from replays is close to a rip off. I'm wondering if MLG is going to try to sell sand in sahara next


Imbu asks the right question about Dreamhack a few posts above mine. Until we know more about their finances (not that it's our business to know) or see them sustain in the long run we won't know if their model is any good (as a business).

But the bigger mystery for me is how PPV content - cast from replays OR live games - can be considered a ripoff. Don't we generally agree that casting games adds value? What about the value of gathering the players, producing graphics etc, enforcing fair games? Don't we generally pay money for things of value?

Btw, it is of course completely reasonable to say 'I don't want to pay for that' if you don't find those things worth the cost. But that's a different point.
Starcraft is frustration mixed with self-doubt, a game populated by the most masochistic bunch of gamers who all collectively wallow in a feeling of self-disgust at how horrible they are, even if they are decent.
[sPoOn]
Profile Joined April 2011
United States29 Posts
September 30 2012 07:06 GMT
#286
Axeltoss' name is Alex Rodriguez?? And he works in NEW YORK?

CHECK MATE
You may run, but be prepared to feel a sharp and fatal pain between your shoulder blades.
Prev 1 13 14 15 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PiG Daily
20:30
Best Games of SC
Serral vs Clem
Solar vs Cure
Serral vs Clem
Reynor vs GuMiho
herO vs Cure
LiquipediaDiscussion
OSC
19:00
Masters Cup #150: Group B
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 1584
Killer 591
Larva 524
Leta 325
EffOrt 120
yabsab 50
Sharp 40
Shinee 21
Bale 12
Dota 2
monkeys_forever539
XaKoH 419
NeuroSwarm188
League of Legends
JimRising 629
Reynor14
Other Games
summit1g14601
fl0m775
WinterStarcraft423
Fuzer 233
Dewaltoss5
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream190
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH161
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt575
Other Games
• Scarra1163
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2h 34m
RSL Revival
2h 34m
Reynor vs sOs
Maru vs Ryung
Kung Fu Cup
4h 34m
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs TBD
WardiTV Korean Royale
4h 34m
BSL 21
12h 34m
JDConan vs Semih
Dragon vs Dienmax
Tech vs NewOcean
TerrOr vs Artosis
IPSL
12h 34m
Dewalt vs WolFix
eOnzErG vs Bonyth
Replay Cast
15h 34m
Wardi Open
1d 4h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 9h
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
[ Show More ]
BSL: GosuLeague
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
BSL: GosuLeague
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
IPSL
6 days
Julia vs Artosis
JDConan vs DragOn
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-14
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.