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Izanaki
Profile Joined February 2012
England19 Posts
September 26 2012 16:26 GMT
#241
Based internet will give me free stream so no worries about PPV really :d
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 17:56:17
September 26 2012 17:47 GMT
#242
I agree with TB. I always found MLG to be better than DH, production wise and entertainment wise. DH is also on at horrible times for me, something which europeans always complain about for MLG in live threads, but you rarely see the same from NA posters when euro tourneys happen while they sleep.

Always found DH to have poor competition too and remember the ones mana and thorzain won were some of the weakest competition I've seen in a major tournament ever. They get very few top and interesting koreans (besides MC) as well and just the ones on foreign teams. I've usually only watched DH towards the end, but saw some of valencia and that was a trainwreck day 1. No player ever shown, delays before games longer than what MLG has ever done. Was just a very poor show all around. I will always watch MLG championships, but DH is something I can live without.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Enel
Profile Joined April 2012
Sudan430 Posts
September 26 2012 17:59 GMT
#243
wow those featured matches at day 1 look delicious as fuck. I better find a way to watch it for free.
Go Sudan
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
September 26 2012 18:19 GMT
#244
Echoing TotalBiscuit (seriously, this guy has the best opinions on eSports business it seems) it annoys me that I'd need to pay 10$ just to not be totally in the dark with respect to MLG Fall Champs. What's more, this whole tournament is basically glorified seeding of KeSPA players into an MLG. It just rubs me the wrong way. It's understandable that MLG wants KeSPA players at their event, but to basically guarantee them spots in the group stage is immensely unfair to everyone, including them.
HSN_
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7 Posts
September 26 2012 18:36 GMT
#245
I would consider paying money for a MLG, but only if I could be guaranteed lag free streams for the entire event.

Whenever I watch a streaming service, inexplicably sometimes it lags, and it isn't the connection on my end.

I'd need streaming services to be a lot more reliable.
GohgamX
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1096 Posts
September 26 2012 19:06 GMT
#246
On September 27 2012 03:19 Shiori wrote:
Echoing TotalBiscuit (seriously, this guy has the best opinions on eSports business it seems) it annoys me that I'd need to pay 10$ just to not be totally in the dark with respect to MLG Fall Champs. What's more, this whole tournament is basically glorified seeding of KeSPA players into an MLG. It just rubs me the wrong way. It's understandable that MLG wants KeSPA players at their event, but to basically guarantee them spots in the group stage is immensely unfair to everyone, including them.


You wouldn't be completely in the dark, I'm sure there will be more than enough spoilers online. Also, you could attend a spectating event in your area aka barcraft.
Time is a great teacher, unfortunate that it kills all its pupils ...
dan1165
Profile Joined September 2012
8 Posts
September 26 2012 19:19 GMT
#247


The only reason I can think of this being more expensive is if they had to pay KeSPA to get their players involved.


Is that not enough of a reason? We all know how KeSPA is about protecting their brand/players
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
September 26 2012 19:19 GMT
#248
On September 27 2012 02:47 Canucklehead wrote:
I agree with TB. I always found MLG to be better than DH, production wise and entertainment wise. DH is also on at horrible times for me, something which europeans always complain about for MLG in live threads, but you rarely see the same from NA posters when euro tourneys happen while they sleep.

Always found DH to have poor competition too and remember the ones mana and thorzain won were some of the weakest competition I've seen in a major tournament ever. They get very few top and interesting koreans (besides MC) as well and just the ones on foreign teams. I've usually only watched DH towards the end, but saw some of valencia and that was a trainwreck day 1. No player ever shown, delays before games longer than what MLG has ever done. Was just a very poor show all around. I will always watch MLG championships, but DH is something I can live without.


That's an interesting point. Dreamhack doesn't have the strongest competition and MLG is miles ahead when it comes to the intensity of matches going on and more Koreans as well. Also I hate the typical "take notes mlg" I see on reddit as well. This does need to stop.

I almost feel like it's regional thing as well that comes out as hating on an American business. I could be wrong but I get that vibe from just reading on most of the comments about MLG.
Getting too old for this..
XGhostXx
Profile Joined May 2012
United States21 Posts
September 26 2012 19:25 GMT
#249
On September 26 2012 07:31 TommyP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 07:30 TeeTS wrote:
I expect the MvP to be a complete flop. PPV worked well for the Arenas, because you had the best players in the world competing in a serious tournament with high production value. That's the kind of product you are able to sell well.
I really doubt that many people will buy a pass for this show event. The LineUp lacks really hot ESF korean players and noone expect those games to be played out too seriously.
I wonder why they trashed the arena for this.. :o

they'll make more money. People will pay a lot to see Flash v. Scarlett for example.


Maybe but Scarlett isn't in it anymore either. So therefore all hope for them is dead and should just scrap the ppv idea forever.
TheSir
Profile Joined February 2012
1830 Posts
September 26 2012 19:31 GMT
#250
On September 27 2012 04:19 Danzo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 02:47 Canucklehead wrote:
I agree with TB. I always found MLG to be better than DH, production wise and entertainment wise. DH is also on at horrible times for me, something which europeans always complain about for MLG in live threads, but you rarely see the same from NA posters when euro tourneys happen while they sleep.

Always found DH to have poor competition too and remember the ones mana and thorzain won were some of the weakest competition I've seen in a major tournament ever. They get very few top and interesting koreans (besides MC) as well and just the ones on foreign teams. I've usually only watched DH towards the end, but saw some of valencia and that was a trainwreck day 1. No player ever shown, delays before games longer than what MLG has ever done. Was just a very poor show all around. I will always watch MLG championships, but DH is something I can live without.


That's an interesting point. Dreamhack doesn't have the strongest competition and MLG is miles ahead when it comes to the intensity of matches going on and more Koreans as well. Also I hate the typical "take notes mlg" I see on reddit as well. This does need to stop.

I almost feel like it's regional thing as well that comes out as hating on an American business. I could be wrong but I get that vibe from just reading on most of the comments about MLG.


Not really a interesting point cause well, who's fault is it that the strongest competitors dont come to Dreamhack? You have to go to the teams and players themselves for that. Not Dreamhacks fault or problem.

A regional thing? Probably, but i think its also a community thing where Dreamhack blows MLG out of the water. Not to mention you dont hear a lot of crap around Dreamhack while MLG keeps trying to get attention with the most dumb ideas.

IHaveArms
Profile Joined March 2012
United Kingdom42 Posts
September 26 2012 19:50 GMT
#251
Why are we getting angry at a pass that is 10 dollars (or your regional equivalent)?
People in here are acting like MLG is greedy cash whores who are charging a arm and a leg for this, just calm down
"Your par game is weak" - Tim Westwood
Ashtamnire
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland16 Posts
September 26 2012 20:04 GMT
#252
On September 27 2012 02:47 Canucklehead wrote:
I agree with TB. I always found MLG to be better than DH, production wise and entertainment wise. DH is also on at horrible times for me, something which europeans always complain about for MLG in live threads, but you rarely see the same from NA posters when euro tourneys happen while they sleep.


There is quite a difference between getting up early to watch whole day of starcraft tournament on Sunday with finals 5-7pm and staying up late on Monday night before you have to go to work.

I never watch MLG's last day because it's impossible for anyone who has a job or takes his school seriously to spend whole night watching a tournament that ends with luck 4-6am
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 20:17:45
September 26 2012 20:15 GMT
#253
On September 27 2012 04:50 IHaveArms wrote:
Why are we getting angry at a pass that is 10 dollars (or your regional equivalent)?
People in here are acting like MLG is greedy cash whores who are charging a arm and a leg for this, just calm down

It's the entitled generation. The level of discourse is pretty depressing these days. If you don't like paying for content, don't. To actually hate the organizers for attempting to figure out a sustainable business strategy is an incredibly childish and sheltered view of how the world works.
kuan888
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada305 Posts
September 26 2012 21:18 GMT
#254
On September 26 2012 07:12 NOOBALOPSE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 07:10 laLAlA[uC] wrote:
On September 26 2012 07:05 NOOBALOPSE wrote:
Again with the Pay Per View. omfg.... Really I hope no one buys it.


But look at the player list! It's so tempting

Don't, we need to teach them fuckers a lil lesson.
IDK why they're doing it again if last time they lost too many views. Fucking don't learn lessons.


They did make money $$$ period.

I dont know if you remember what Sundance said in a interview on ITG. He said hes ready to lose viewers, because he can make money from a less % of viewers who want to pay.
What doesn't kill us makes us stronger. -Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche ||| Acer.Scarlett <3
Spray
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States402 Posts
September 26 2012 21:21 GMT
#255
I'm gonna be buying this as my first PPV! Despite what everyone says I'm looking forward to it. Only Kespa players that i can watch because of time. Staying up till 6 for gsl just aint happening for me
HuK Fighting~~!
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
September 26 2012 21:22 GMT
#256
On September 27 2012 03:19 Shiori wrote:
Echoing TotalBiscuit (seriously, this guy has the best opinions on eSports business it seems) it annoys me that I'd need to pay 10$ just to not be totally in the dark with respect to MLG Fall Champs. What's more, this whole tournament is basically glorified seeding of KeSPA players into an MLG. It just rubs me the wrong way. It's understandable that MLG wants KeSPA players at their event, but to basically guarantee them spots in the group stage is immensely unfair to everyone, including them.

But MLG used to seed Gom Koreans right in group stage, when it was even more beneficial to be in groups.
This is no more egregious than that.
Muffel
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany137 Posts
September 26 2012 21:22 GMT
#257
i miss the times where we would have ingame wc3-tv and a radio-cast. guess what?
it was live. it was in "HD". i could control the "camera" myself. control all the sounds.. i was able to watch game X and listen to the cast of game Y... and you would not even need good internet. i was able to chat ingame while watching. it was magic....
Cox:"I suppose I could riff a list of things that I care as little about as our last week together. Lemme see, uhh [...] Oh! And Hugh Jackman." J.D.: Hugh Jackman's Wolverine! How dare he.
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
September 26 2012 21:24 GMT
#258
Lol @ kids crying about premium content. If you can't pay $10 to watch (what were going to be) amazing games, get off TL and get a job. Jesus Christ.

I'll be holding back on buying until this whole player situation gets sorted out. If all the original invites were playing, $10 price point is a no brainer for me.

Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
September 26 2012 21:29 GMT
#259
On September 27 2012 04:31 TheSir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 04:19 Danzo wrote:
On September 27 2012 02:47 Canucklehead wrote:
I agree with TB. I always found MLG to be better than DH, production wise and entertainment wise. DH is also on at horrible times for me, something which europeans always complain about for MLG in live threads, but you rarely see the same from NA posters when euro tourneys happen while they sleep.

Always found DH to have poor competition too and remember the ones mana and thorzain won were some of the weakest competition I've seen in a major tournament ever. They get very few top and interesting koreans (besides MC) as well and just the ones on foreign teams. I've usually only watched DH towards the end, but saw some of valencia and that was a trainwreck day 1. No player ever shown, delays before games longer than what MLG has ever done. Was just a very poor show all around. I will always watch MLG championships, but DH is something I can live without.


That's an interesting point. Dreamhack doesn't have the strongest competition and MLG is miles ahead when it comes to the intensity of matches going on and more Koreans as well. Also I hate the typical "take notes mlg" I see on reddit as well. This does need to stop.

I almost feel like it's regional thing as well that comes out as hating on an American business. I could be wrong but I get that vibe from just reading on most of the comments about MLG.


Not really a interesting point cause well, who's fault is it that the strongest competitors dont come to Dreamhack? You have to go to the teams and players themselves for that. Not Dreamhacks fault or problem.

A regional thing? Probably, but i think its also a community thing where Dreamhack blows MLG out of the water. Not to mention you dont hear a lot of crap around Dreamhack while MLG keeps trying to get attention with the most dumb ideas.



I don't understand dreamhack "blows mlg out of the water". I'm just as entertained from DH as I am from MLG. Yes they have nice framerate on the stream but that's really it besides the quirky cam shots every once in awhile. And what do you mean MLG keeps trying to "get attention."? It's a bushiness, of course they want to keep promoting.
Getting too old for this..
nOondn
Profile Joined March 2011
564 Posts
September 26 2012 21:53 GMT
#260
On September 27 2012 06:22 Muffel wrote:
i miss the times where we would have ingame wc3-tv and a radio-cast. guess what?
it was live. it was in "HD". i could control the "camera" myself. control all the sounds.. i was able to watch game X and listen to the cast of game Y... and you would not even need good internet. i was able to chat ingame while watching. it was magic....

Sadly,It happand in DOTA2 not sc2
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