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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
September 25 2012 06:03 GMT
#1121
On September 25 2012 15:02 eauxlune wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 15:02 My_Fake_Plastic_Luv wrote:
Pretty sure the only way to settle this is a Kawaii Rice v. Death Angel showmatch.
If Kawaii wins he gets the Veralynn earnings and Death Angel is officially banned from SC2.
If Death Angel wins Kawaii will have to pay him a large fee for slander and publicly apologize.

This way we will have a showmatch actually worth something. After watching the Packers and Seahawks, (seriously fuk those refs) I believe controversy is essential, especially for a game where one can only identify a player through a screen name and a color.


So basically.. Trial by combat?


Trial.... by.... STARCRAFT!
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
September 25 2012 06:03 GMT
#1122
On September 25 2012 15:03 ROOTFayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 15:02 My_Fake_Plastic_Luv wrote:
Pretty sure the only way to settle this is a Kawaii Rice v. Death Angel showmatch.
If Kawaii wins he gets the Veralynn earnings and Death Angel is officially banned from SC2.
If Death Angel wins Kawaii will have to pay him a large fee for slander and publicly apologize.

This way we will have a showmatch actually worth something. After watching the Packers and Seahawks, (seriously fuk those refs) I believe controversy is essential, especially for a game where one can only identify a player through a screen name and a color.

that's retarded


I'm sure he wasn't being serious.

It's a fun concept, but not much else.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
September 25 2012 06:04 GMT
#1123
On September 25 2012 15:02 My_Fake_Plastic_Luv wrote:
Pretty sure the only way to settle this is a Kawaii Rice v. Death Angel showmatch.
If Kawaii wins he gets the Veralynn earnings and Death Angel is officially banned from SC2.
If Death Angel wins Kawaii will have to pay him a large fee for slander and publicly apologize.

This way we will have a showmatch actually worth something. After watching the Packers and Seahawks, (seriously fuk those refs) I believe controversy is essential, especially for a game where one can only identify a player through a screen name and a color.

How is it slander if he's lost the battle already.
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
September 25 2012 06:04 GMT
#1124
On September 25 2012 15:03 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 15:02 eauxlune wrote:
On September 25 2012 15:02 My_Fake_Plastic_Luv wrote:
Pretty sure the only way to settle this is a Kawaii Rice v. Death Angel showmatch.
If Kawaii wins he gets the Veralynn earnings and Death Angel is officially banned from SC2.
If Death Angel wins Kawaii will have to pay him a large fee for slander and publicly apologize.

This way we will have a showmatch actually worth something. After watching the Packers and Seahawks, (seriously fuk those refs) I believe controversy is essential, especially for a game where one can only identify a player through a screen name and a color.


So basically.. Trial by combat?


Trial.... by.... STARCRAFT!


Did we get bored by the drama being over too quickly?
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
September 25 2012 06:05 GMT
#1125
deathangel pleading ignorance is sad. They both deserve to be banned for life.
TL+ Member
snexwang
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia224 Posts
September 25 2012 06:05 GMT
#1126
This is like a god damn movie.
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
September 25 2012 06:06 GMT
#1127
On September 25 2012 15:05 snexwang wrote:
This is like a god damn movie.

A movie so bad that it's hilarious to watch.
Maruprime.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-25 06:07:56
September 25 2012 06:06 GMT
#1128
the rate of psychos amoung progamer is ..OVVER 9000!!
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
September 25 2012 06:07 GMT
#1129
On September 25 2012 15:05 ReachTheSky wrote:
deathangel pleading ignorance is sad. They both deserve to be banned for life.


Too light of a punishment. These jerks ripped people off and one jerk had the nerve to brag while doing it.
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
Angry.Zerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico305 Posts
September 25 2012 06:07 GMT
#1130
I'm really sure we will hear about her again... in LOL or WOW or DOTA2
You play to win
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
September 25 2012 06:09 GMT
#1131
The sad thing is, from what I've been hearing in PMs, it seems like DeathAngel was doing this not for any scheming reasons, but purely for monetary reasons. Which are understandable in a way since one doesn't have to be sinister to play for money, even if it is through account leveling/streaming, and even more shady in playing showmatches for someone else. After all you have to keep in mind he appears to be trying to pro in SC2, but is currently without a team even though he made Code A qualifier finals I think twice before? Since there is no big memory on the scene about him, so he will clearly have a difficult time. So while what he did is reprehensible, I don't get any sinister vibes from him.

The believability of what Vera has said, along with what I'm hearing in PMs, from sources which Vera herself claims to have been close to, paints a very sinister picture of her. I cannot believe a single thing she is saying, and have ended up feeling strongly that she is sociopathic. Of course, there is the outside chance she just wanted to masquerade as a female GM and things snowballed from there as she tried to keep up the story, but I can only view that as an outside chance.

So while I do think both Vera and DeathAngel are at fault and should receive negative backlash from this, I am more inclined to forgive DeathAngel over time. Believing Vera would be difficult for me even in the future. Oh well, #drama
yOngKIN
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (North)656 Posts
September 25 2012 06:10 GMT
#1132
Reposting the polls that the poll creator got warned about earlier for unnecessary spamming but is relevant now that all sides have expressed their side of the story. I lost all trust in humanity. I was really rooting for Vera. What a shame!

Poll: Ban VeraLynn in TL as though she never existed?

Yes (263)
 
89%

No (32)
 
11%

295 total votes

Your vote: Ban VeraLynn in TL as though she never existed?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



Poll: Ban VeraLynn in Esports for life?

Yes (335)
 
79%

No (88)
 
21%

423 total votes

Your vote: Ban VeraLynn in Esports for life?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



Poll: Ban DeathAngel[ro] in Esports for life?

No (278)
 
65%

Yes (152)
 
35%

430 total votes

Your vote: Ban DeathAngel[ro] in Esports for life?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No

SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
September 25 2012 06:10 GMT
#1133
On September 25 2012 14:58 -xOGaviNNN- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 14:54 Wrathsc2 wrote:
the thing i dont understand is why she would need to do this lol. ur a girl...being in masters makes u popular enough...

You can be in bronze as a women and still get more viewers than a top masters guy.


Only if you're an incredibly boring or standard "top masters" player. I've seen girl streamers with under 10 viewers and I've seen random mid master guys with over 100.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-25 06:13:30
September 25 2012 06:11 GMT
#1134
On September 25 2012 15:09 EtherealDeath wrote:
The sad thing is, from what I've been hearing in PMs, it seems like DeathAngel was doing this not for any scheming reasons, but purely for monetary reasons. Which are understandable in a way since one doesn't have to be sinister to play for money, even if it is through account leveling/streaming, and even more shady in playing showmatches for someone else. After all you have to keep in mind he appears to be trying to pro in SC2, but is currently without a team even though he made Code A qualifier finals I think twice before? Since there is no big memory on the scene about him, so he will clearly have a difficult time. So while what he did is reprehensible, I don't get any sinister vibes from him.

The believability of what Vera has said, along with what I'm hearing in PMs, from sources which Vera herself claims to have been close to, paints a very sinister picture of her. I cannot believe a single thing she is saying, and have ended up feeling strongly that she is sociopathic. Of course, there is the outside chance she just wanted to masquerade as a female GM and things snowballed from there as she tried to keep up the story, but I can only view that as an outside chance.

So while I do think both Vera and DeathAngel are at fault and should receive negative backlash from this, I am more inclined to forgive DeathAngel over time. Believing Vera would be difficult for me even in the future. Oh well, #drama


Yea I'm getting the same sort of vibes here.

DeathAngel's actions aren't ok, but his motives for doing it are much more understandable in my opinion. Here's a guy good enough to take down well known sponsored pros and he can't even find a team, he's just doing whatever he can to get by just like the other well known professionals selling account leveling services.

Like I said, already I think DeathAngel's reputation will eventually recover. Vera on the other hand, I don't think will get that same forgiveness.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Moosegills
Profile Joined March 2011
United States558 Posts
September 25 2012 06:15 GMT
#1135
On September 25 2012 15:02 My_Fake_Plastic_Luv wrote:
Pretty sure the only way to settle this is a Kawaii Rice v. Death Angel showmatch.
If Kawaii wins he gets the Veralynn earnings and Death Angel is officially banned from SC2.
If Death Angel wins Kawaii will have to pay him a large fee for slander and publicly apologize.

This way we will have a showmatch actually worth something. After watching the Packers and Seahawks, (seriously fuk those refs) I believe controversy is essential, especially for a game where one can only identify a player through a screen name and a color.

I hope you are on drugs right now
#1 HuK fan, zerg player playing for http://www.complexitygaming.com - @coL_Moosegills
ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
September 25 2012 06:16 GMT
#1136
haha Kawaii used a screenshot of my game vs Vixen ( DeathAngel) ! :D

atleast I won wooooot http://imgur.com/BsX03 xD
If you avoid your weakness, it will remain your weakness. www.twitter.com/#!/rootheognis Follow me!
GT350
Profile Joined May 2012
United States270 Posts
September 25 2012 06:18 GMT
#1137
On September 25 2012 13:26 Perscienter wrote:
I still want to know, if they have had sex with each other.

Dafuck
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-25 06:19:54
September 25 2012 06:19 GMT
#1138
On September 25 2012 15:10 yOngKIN wrote:

Poll: Ban VeraLynn in Esports for life?

Yes (335)
 
79%

No (88)
 
21%

423 total votes

Your vote: Ban VeraLynn in Esports for life?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No





lol ban from esports. this community.
rchalico
Profile Joined August 2012
Mexico6 Posts
September 25 2012 06:21 GMT
#1139
On September 25 2012 12:55 wcLLg wrote:
DeathAngel is an accomplice no matter how you look at this.

EXACTLY, I don't think he can get out of this mess being innocent, he tried to fool alot of people :/ even with money on the line, which is the worse part.
"if you'd see my face right now you would understand the meaning of hungover." - Ilyes Satouri
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-25 06:22:00
September 25 2012 06:21 GMT
#1140
On September 25 2012 14:57 skyflyfish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 14:48 Kennigit wrote:
Yeah i just want to make sure i have everyone.

only if you can ban every single pro who'r providing lvling service

Only sentence rapists if you can convict every rapist. Good logic. Yeah guys dont worry about length and all that, they are both gone for good i just wanted to make sure it was 2 and not more.
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