EPTMinistry of Win - Statement - Page 6
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bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
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Awesomeness
Germany1361 Posts
On September 14 2012 01:53 mememolly wrote: The dude isn't "doing this for esports", sure he might have some passion for the game etc. But they are making a lot of money from gamers, I'm not saying it's bad he's making money or wants to, but don't lie to yourself, he's doing this to make money and build a business, albeit a bad job of it. And you know that, because...? At least he is trying to create a business within eSports which is more than most of us will ever do. As long as the house is good and the players enjoy it, I don't even care what his motivation is. Yes it seems like they need to improve a lot of things, but it's a new project and we should at least give them some time to learn from their mistakes and not talk shit about everything they do. | ||
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Artifex Magnus
United States75 Posts
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Pimpmuckl
Germany528 Posts
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Kontys
Finland659 Posts
On September 14 2012 01:55 Sapphire.lux wrote: It was a joke of course...Although, if some one should ever email sponsors over something, it should be over financial disputes. Players not getting paid is much worse then some bad PR to a profit orientated company. Not that this is the case of course. Fuzer got his money back now, right? Yes, giving Fuzer his money and making this (the OP) statement (albeit the fucking kittens) were the only two correct things to do after the situation blew up. Besides the kittens I am pretty satisfied with the conclusion, but if I were the MoW manager, I would take a good look at what FXO.BoSs wrote about contracting players in the other thread (quoted in this thread twice so far). | ||
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short
Sweden148 Posts
It seems to me that every inch of ground that MoW has given up here is a direct result of pressure from the community and I see nothing to suggest that they have a genuine interest in making this right. I won't say anything about the cats. | ||
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bGr.MetHiX
Bulgaria511 Posts
and everybody who knows fuzer knows he's to blame im amazed how many people blindly jump on the Hate-MoW-bandwagon for no reason. | ||
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mememolly
4765 Posts
On September 14 2012 02:01 Awesomeness wrote: And you know that, because...? At least he is trying to create a business within eSports which is more than most of us will ever do. As long as the house is good and the players enjoy it, I don't even care what his motivation is. Yes it seems like they need to improve a lot of things, but it's a new project and we should at least give them some time to learn from their mistakes and not talk shit about everything they do. why else would you start a business if not to make money? why would you charge 600 euros a month if not to make money? why would you get pro players in to make the whole thing more legitimate if not to make money from exposure and legitimacy they bring to it? why would you take a percentage of the stream revenue if not to make money? No, I don't know what his intentions are but I can process information and reach a probable conclusion. I'm not saying he's bad for wanting to make money from esports, good for him, but don't make out he is doing this out of pure altruism or for the holy grail of "esports". | ||
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TheAwesomeAll
Netherlands1609 Posts
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mazqo
Finland368 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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Kontys
Finland659 Posts
On September 14 2012 01:59 TAMinator wrote: Poll: Was posting the kitten pictures a redeeming factor? No (188) Yes (20) I don't know (4) 212 total votes Your vote: Was posting the kitten pictures a redeeming factor? It was a de-redeeming factor, as in, it fully showcased to the community that we aren't dealing with a person equipped with a fully functionable logic engine. | ||
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RiSkysc2
696 Posts
On September 14 2012 01:38 Shocae wrote: Oh my god. I can't stand the way you handled things, your shady as fuck boss (who should be fired asap), the contracts, the press releases and statements that did not address the issue yesterday and the way you depict Fuzer as more in the wrong than you, that you asked for a license to prove fuzer has a lawyer, that you wouldn't pay back a negligible amount of money in a power/ego move, the patronizing of the community like we're idiots with kitten pictures and interviews that have nothing to do with the conflict, the use of media/propaganda, the taking advantage of non well known players, your lack of adhering to the dietary plan you promised, the amount of you are compensated vs the amount spent on the players, the way in which you communicated threats of not paying via skype chat because it was untraceable, the streaming hours, just your overall sense/way of handling this whole situation has been utterly despicable. I've never boycotted before, but I am. Also, I encourage an audit of the organization to see how clean an operation they run. This. I couldn't put it better. Basically a perfect summary of my thoughts. | ||
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bGr.MetHiX
Bulgaria511 Posts
(many people try to do this to sabotage players' careers and so forth) sorry for caps but i see other people allowing their selves to do it also. ps : and yes,kittens were cute,but i think they did just the opposite of what they were intended to do. User was warned for this post | ||
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
How can it take sooooo long to release this statement? | ||
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chuDr3t4
Russian Federation484 Posts
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pallad
Poland1958 Posts
On September 14 2012 02:04 bGr.MetHiX wrote: i love kittens. and everybody who knows fuzer knows he's to blame im amazed how many people blindly jump on the Hate-MoW-bandwagon for no reason. I wirte this many times.. Everyone who watched Fuzer stream just once.. know he is not an angel and BM. Other funny thing is that you refused to take money back.. , he pick drama.. , he chose drama not MONEY , and now MoW hater write.. GIVE him oney back.. ? hahaha , you must be joking. | ||
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
On September 14 2012 02:09 pallad wrote: I wirte this many times.. Everyone who watched Fuzer stream just once.. know he is not an angel and BM. Other funny thing is that you refused to take money back.. , he pick drama.. , he chose drama not MONEY , and now MoW hater write.. GIVE him oney back.. ? hahaha , you must be joking. You clearly have absolutely no grasp what so ever on the situation at hand. | ||
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Xcobidoo
Sweden1871 Posts
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bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
On September 14 2012 02:08 SupLilSon wrote: I haven't even been following the drama but MoW seems completely unprofessional from a bystanders perspective... How can it take sooooo long to release this statement? Because they needed to pad the statement with enough words to compensate for the fact that it doesn't contain the most important piece of information? I anticipate a full-length essay tomorrow. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
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