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Aterons_toss
Profile Joined February 2011
Romania1275 Posts
September 13 2012 17:11 GMT
#121
Im sorry, what ? how can you make a vague 2 page pr bs answer and than still manage to make it look unprofessional, please at least edit the kitties out.
A good strategy means leaving your opponent room to make mistakes
syriuszonito
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland332 Posts
September 13 2012 17:12 GMT
#122
Try to steal someones money -> shit gots revealed -> post kittens

Seriously?
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scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
September 13 2012 17:13 GMT
#123
On September 14 2012 02:10 bonifaceviii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2012 02:08 SupLilSon wrote:
I haven't even been following the drama but MoW seems completely unprofessional from a bystanders perspective...

How can it take sooooo long to release this statement?

Because they needed to pad the statement with enough words to compensate for the fact that it doesn't contain the most important piece of information?

I anticipate a full-length essay tomorrow.


What exactly is the most important piece? The part about offering refund after Fuzer said he'll go public? That's pretty obvious for me that this happened this way.
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ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
September 13 2012 17:13 GMT
#124
On September 14 2012 02:12 syriuszonito wrote:
Try to steal someones money -> shit gots revealed -> post kittens

Seriously?


That pretty much goes to show the character of this organization.
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pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 17:18:03
September 13 2012 17:16 GMT
#125
On September 14 2012 02:10 bonifaceviii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2012 02:08 SupLilSon wrote:
I haven't even been following the drama but MoW seems completely unprofessional from a bystanders perspective...

How can it take sooooo long to release this statement?

Because they needed to pad the statement with enough words to compensate for the fact that it doesn't contain the most important piece of information?

I anticipate a full-length essay tomorrow.


Hahah you are also funny..
Yesterday most important informatios was... " OMG NO .. ? you cant go to gaming house for 10 years.." its turn out blushit because you cant only MAKE own house.
later yesterday most important information was "OMG NO they dont give food to playes omg omg " its turn out bulshit also , food is not perfect , but noone is starving
Then most important information was " why they dont let him show contracto to his lawyer"

And now here you go agine.. most important information..

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scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
September 13 2012 17:17 GMT
#126
On September 14 2012 02:13 ReachTheSky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2012 02:12 syriuszonito wrote:
Try to steal someones money -> shit gots revealed -> post kittens

Seriously?


That pretty much goes to show the character of this organization.


You obviously skipped the part of the post before the kittens, especially the part explaining how does the house works and the statement about players getting informed that they pay up front.

MoW messed up with those kittens, but seriously... read the stuff above.
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RiSkysc2
Profile Joined September 2011
696 Posts
September 13 2012 17:18 GMT
#127
What a joke.
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
September 13 2012 17:19 GMT
#128
No offense, but like all the polish people came out of the woodworks and started being vocal x_x
Toyman69
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada100 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 17:23:22
September 13 2012 17:19 GMT
#129
On September 14 2012 01:43 MiQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2012 01:14 MinistryOfWin wrote:
Upon announcing that he chose the latter, a refund for the remaining days has been offered and turned down.


Such a nice way to put it yet we have proof this isn't the way it went down... You were being a huge douche to him saying you wouldn't pay him back anything. Then suddenly, when he goes public with this, you make the offer.

And it's not like you can deny any of it, he pasted the frickin convo.

I'm getting fed up with shitty ass business deals fucking up people of the community. If you want to help esports how bout you get your shit straight and quit looking so damn amateur. (Like putting kitty pics in your official statement.... I for one find it quite insulting.)

Totally agree with u.
Total insult to the community posting the kitty pics after such a serious matter, shady buisness as fuck. Gonna boycot all the stream of the players there, dont want MoW to have a penny. Since he didn't sign the contract he should still get the rest of his money back. But since he destroyed ur plublic image, erm should i say you destroyed your public image you won't give him a dime
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Mrvoodoochild1
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1439 Posts
September 13 2012 17:20 GMT
#130
I will never take MoW seriously because of this OP. Congratz.
"let your freak flag fly"
AzurewinD
Profile Joined November 2010
United States569 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 17:24:35
September 13 2012 17:20 GMT
#131
On September 14 2012 02:19 Toyman69 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2012 01:43 MiQ wrote:
On September 14 2012 01:14 MinistryOfWin wrote:
Upon announcing that he chose the latter, a refund for the remaining days has been offered and turned down.


Such a nice way to put it yet we have proof this isn't the way it went down... You were being a huge douche to him saying you wouldn't pay him back anything. Then suddenly, when he goes public with this, you make the offer.

And it's not like you can deny any of it, he pasted the frickin convo.

I'm getting fed up with shitty ass business deals fucking up people of the community. If you want to help esports how bout you get your shit straight and quit looking so damn amateur. (Like putting kitty pics in your official statement.... I for one find it quite insulting.)

Total insult to the community posting the kitty pics after such a serious matter, shady buisness as fuck. Gonna boycot all the stream of the players there, dont want MoW to have a penny.



You're hurting the players immensely by doing that too. Just so you're aware.

I guess it's a crazy issue if that's your approach. I suppose one could say they're holding the players hostage in that regard. Only from the perspective of a boycotter though. Definitely a wild predicament.
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syriuszonito
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland332 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 17:23:21
September 13 2012 17:22 GMT
#132
On September 14 2012 02:17 scypio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2012 02:13 ReachTheSky wrote:
On September 14 2012 02:12 syriuszonito wrote:
Try to steal someones money -> shit gots revealed -> post kittens

Seriously?


That pretty much goes to show the character of this organization.


You obviously skipped the part of the post before the kittens, especially the part explaining how does the house works and the statement about players getting informed that they pay up front.

MoW messed up with those kittens, but seriously... read the stuff above.

Actually did read it, unfortunately there is nothing about the problems that really made the MoW look so shit (why didnt they just give the contract to fuzer's lawyer and why did they accept to give him money back only after he threatened to make it public).
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Valmar
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland8 Posts
September 13 2012 17:22 GMT
#133
So let me get this straight. You showed the contract first time to him at 8th of September which is Saturday and then when Fuzer wanted to show it to a lawyer you wanted to see his licence by 11th of September or he would be kicked off. Most of the law-firms do not work on Saturdays and Sundays in Finland which leaved Fuzer less than 2 days to find a lawyer and him to send his licence to your e-mail. And he had to do all this from Poland. This really does not sound a fair timetable at all. Also im excluding the fact that you really had no right to demand some kind of proof.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
September 13 2012 17:23 GMT
#134
So much uninformed reflexive stupid in this thread. Taking fuzers part is not cheering on david versus goliath. It's urging on a trollish idiot who spends his time 2-raxing on ladder.

User was temp banned for this post.
Giga
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United Kingdom114 Posts
September 13 2012 17:24 GMT
#135
Kittens. What a way to belittle someone.
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MinistryOfWin
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland87 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 17:25:41
September 13 2012 17:24 GMT
#136
On September 14 2012 02:22 Valmar wrote:
So let me get this straight. You showed the contract first time to him at 8th of September which is Saturday and then when Fuzer wanted to show it to a lawyer you wanted to see his licence by 11th of September or he would be kicked off. Most of the law-firms do not work on Saturdays and Sundays in Finland which leaved Fuzer less than 2 days to find a lawyer and him to send his licence to your e-mail. And he had to do all this from Poland. This really does not sound a fair timetable at all. Also im excluding the fact that you really had no right to demand some kind of proof.


which has been delivered in cash by Samuli on arrival to the house. Soon after the Ministry of Win contract has been presented to him negotiations and consultations began. [EDIT: First time, few weeks ago]

Finally all the amendments proposed by Samuli have been fully incorporated into the contract and the final version has been submitted for his approval on Saturday the 8th
.[EDIT: Second time] By that time the second month payment has already been concluded. Samuli refused to sign the agreed contract containing his amendments and requested another consultation period.
MiQ
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada312 Posts
September 13 2012 17:25 GMT
#137
On September 14 2012 02:23 m0ck wrote:
So much uninformed reflexive stupid in this thread. Taking fuzers part is not cheering on david versus goliath. It's urging on a trollish idiot who spends his time 2-raxing on ladder.


Because the builds he chooses to use during ladder play OBVIOUSLY has something to do with the whole thing.

And you talk about stupid...
Tons of damage
s00s
Profile Joined February 2012
Poland8 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 17:36:00
September 13 2012 17:25 GMT
#138
nobody wonders why Fuzer didn't provide his lawyer's licence. i think he should clarify this issue.
maybe there was no lawyer?
about money they "owned| to Fuzer. peopel who travel a lot now how it works, when you say you will stay somwhere for one month you have to pay for one month, nobody cares if you leave earlier. owner has to pay for cleaning service, food (even if it's not the best one) and so one. this is totaly understandable.
what more, Fuzer, accused MoW for stealing wich is quite serious and started threating and teasing on his facebook account first. take it into considiraton.
i'm not saying MoW was the good guys over here, nor Fuzer was the bad one, but amout of shitstorm is simply minblowing and some balance should be made.
YouthSC
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom355 Posts
September 13 2012 17:26 GMT
#139
Seriously what the hell are those kittens. Just makes it look so unprofessional, I really don't know what to think.
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PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
September 13 2012 17:26 GMT
#140
On September 14 2012 02:23 m0ck wrote:
So much uninformed reflexive stupid in this thread. Taking fuzers part is not cheering on david versus goliath. It's urging on a trollish idiot who spends his time 2-raxing on ladder.


Fuzers personality nor choice of build affects this issue.
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