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Stop derailing with living cost talk On September 13 2012 07:51 MinistryOfWin wrote: Press Release: http://www.ministryofwin.com/news/press-release-september-13th-2012 Stay tuned for the article on ESFIWORLD.com. - Wednesday, Sep 12 10:51pm GMT (GMT+00:00) On September 13 2012 08:02 MinistryOfWin wrote: http://esfiworld.com/news/ministry-win-respond-fuzers-claims - Wednesday, Sep 12 11:02pm GMT (GMT+00:00) | ||
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Torrathyr
Canada95 Posts
On September 13 2012 04:08 courtpanda wrote: i want to hear the boss's side, not just the "official statement" Lol, good luck with that. You're likely not going to hear "boss's" side at all. If anything, I'd like to hear from some of the other players at the house like Ret. | ||
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short
Sweden148 Posts
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TheWorldToCome
United States452 Posts
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mememolly
4765 Posts
On September 13 2012 04:10 teaCher wrote: Why would fuzer make it up? why would he even post/make it public if everything was ok? You make no sense. Obviously something went wrong, and they did Fuzer wrong. The thing is, it's hard to speak out in that situation when you're a no-namer as you don't want to rock the boat and get a bad name for yourself as some whiny dude or whatever, so I wouldn't be surprised if a few of them are just keeping their heads down about all the shit. | ||
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dnld12
United States324 Posts
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DarKFoRcE
Germany1215 Posts
On September 13 2012 04:01 ELA wrote: Erhm... Ret?? What the fuck is going on? With DarkForCe posting in here that this needed to happen, Im quite worried... Hope someone from either party can come clarify this ASAP! I dont have special infos about this case specifically, but i know that many, especially lesser known players, get screwed in eSports by teams and maybe also by other organisations  . Maybe Fuzer exaggerated his point, but whatever it is, its good that this kind of thing gets public imo. | ||
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hypercube
Hungary2735 Posts
On September 13 2012 04:09 pallad wrote: Im not.. but I never make an opinion based on one person words. Fuzer make post at TL and everyone instantly belive him.. Maby he make something it the house..and now he defend himself , we dont know that.. Meh many posters said stuff like "lets hear the other side too" or even "if what OP said is true it's pretty bad" Obviously not everyone is instantly believing it. We'll know when MoW releases their statement. Hopefully it will be detailed and relevant, not some empty generality. | ||
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pallad
Poland1958 Posts
On September 13 2012 04:10 teaCher wrote: Why would fuzer make it up? why would he even post/make it public if everything was ok? You make no sense. Obviously something went wrong, and they did Fuzer wrong. You always belive everything.. ? I prefere to wait 2 housr for MoW staff answer to this , then shit talk oever house that they put HUGE WORK . If this is true im goona shit talk ever MoW to , but not now ... i wanna know everything. @UP , sorry not everyone , but 90% , and its sad.. :/ | ||
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ilbh
Brazil1606 Posts
is the owner of the house starving or something to not return him back what he paid? that's absurd!! | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10126 Posts
On September 13 2012 04:11 Torrathyr wrote: Lol, good luck with that. You're likely not going to hear "boss's" side at all. If anything, I'd like to hear from some of the other players at the house like Ret. Yep, it is going to be PR talk. Pretty sure most players who signed a contract has NDA, and yes, it's fairly obvious "more succesful or renown" players would get a better contract. For sure. | ||
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hypercube
Hungary2735 Posts
On September 13 2012 04:12 TheWorldToCome wrote: Innocent until proven guilty. Fuzer or MoW? | ||
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besteady
United States75 Posts
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Destiny
United States280 Posts
When I was first contacted by MoW, my very first action was to request a contract and read through all of the fine terms. As for the "not allowed to stay at another house in 10 years," that's not true, you're just not allowed to start your own team house in 10 years. It's kind of strange, maybe, for the e-sports world, but that's a pretty standard non-competition clause from the business world. It's meant to protect businesses from revealing practices to an employee and then having that employee run off to start their own business to compete using everything they learned from that previous business. Not saying it's right or wrong in this circumstance, just giving some background. Yeah, there are some other clauses. Financial compensation they want, minimum number of stream hours, etc...etc...But to complain about all of these after the fact..? I can't understand why anyone would move to a house and not read the contract first, seems kind of strange. | ||
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NoGasfOu
United States1117 Posts
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[N3O]r3d33m3r
Germany673 Posts
On September 13 2012 03:42 Maasked wrote: Wow, I cant believe that everywhere in Esports is being plagued by horrible business practices and bad people Best of luck to you fuzer, thanks for sharing your story. really no surprise here. i'm glad people voice their opinion. this reminds me of Cloud criticizing various organizations who owed severeal progamers money they didn't pay yet. | ||
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MistSC2
Sweden583 Posts
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ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
On September 13 2012 04:13 DarKFoRcE wrote: I dont have special infos about this case specifically, but i know that many, especially lesser known players, get screwed in eSports by teams and maybe also by other organisations . Maybe Fuzer exaggerated his point, but whatever it is, its good that this kind of thing gets public imo.Fair enough man, I see I read abit too much into your post I guess we'll have to see what MoW has to say about it... | ||
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Jell
Portugal86 Posts
On September 13 2012 04:15 Destiny wrote: The Boss guy looks like kind of a dick here, but honestly, a contract is a contract. When I was first contacted by MoW, my very first action was to request a contract and read through all of the fine terms. As for the "not allowed to stay at another house in 10 years," that's not true, you're just not allowed to start your own team house in 10 years. It's kind of strange, maybe, for the e-sports world, but that's a pretty standard non-competition clause from the business world. It's meant to protect businesses from revealing practices to an employee and then having that employee run off to start their own business to compete using everything they learned from that previous business. Not saying it's right or wrong in this circumstance, just giving some background. Yeah, there are some other clauses. Financial compensation they want, minimum number of stream hours, etc...etc...But to complain about all of these after the fact..? I can't understand why anyone would move to a house and not read the contract first, seems kind of strange. well this explains a lot... | ||
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pallad
Poland1958 Posts
On September 13 2012 04:15 NoGasfOu wrote: Now we just need more players to come out and confirm, plus the name of the boss and his past and everything about him. LOl you got some problems you know that ? , you wanna INVESTIGATION some person life , because some players write UNPROVED information.. ? go to doctor.. or something. | ||
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Fyrewolf
United States1533 Posts
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