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Stop derailing with living cost talk

On September 13 2012 07:51 MinistryOfWin wrote:
Press Release:

http://www.ministryofwin.com/news/press-release-september-13th-2012

Stay tuned for the article on ESFIWORLD.com.

- Wednesday, Sep 12 10:51pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

On September 13 2012 08:02 MinistryOfWin wrote:
http://esfiworld.com/news/ministry-win-respond-fuzers-claims

- Wednesday, Sep 12 11:02pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
teaCher
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada521 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 20:52:15
September 12 2012 19:07 GMT
#121
On September 13 2012 04:05 pallad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 04:03 S_SienZ wrote:
On September 13 2012 04:00 pallad wrote:
One side... everyone says that House is superb and everyone love it ...


And at othger side one players say shit like this.. , who to belive ?

Perfectly possible for the house (as in the building) to be amazing but the boss behind it to be an unreasonable unprofessional douche.


And from where you know that ? You met him ? , or you just read one post here..?


One post here is all we need to see the true colors of Boss. Why not treat everyplayer paying him 600 EUro to stay there, with the same respect? Instead they rip of Fuzer, don't feed him and try to take advantage of him. I always knew eastern Europeans were shady


User was banned for this post (racism, final offense in a long history of mod actions).
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Fik-cz
Profile Joined August 2010
Czech Republic43 Posts
September 12 2012 19:07 GMT
#122
When you sign something like "You cant work for competitors for next 10 years" it cant be demanded when they don't pay you for "lost" profit. So if you will start working for some1 else and they will sue you and don't pay you regular monthly pay, you will win it. This statement is valid for every job you do. At least in my country(czech rep.), but i am quite sure its same everywhere.
awesome-gaming
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden80 Posts
September 12 2012 19:07 GMT
#123
Crazy
Why settle for the best? Bring me perfection!
courtpanda
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
866 Posts
September 12 2012 19:08 GMT
#124
On September 13 2012 04:06 MinistryOfWin wrote:
Official statement of Ministry of Win to be released within two hours.


i want to hear the boss's side, not just the "official statement"
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
September 12 2012 19:08 GMT
#125
On September 13 2012 04:06 MinistryOfWin wrote:
Official statement of Ministry of Win to be released within two hours.


should be a pretty big statement :p
Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
Kernkraft
Profile Joined April 2011
93 Posts
September 12 2012 19:09 GMT
#126
I want to see a copy of the contract...I'm really curious to see it
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
September 12 2012 19:09 GMT
#127
On September 13 2012 04:06 hypercube wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 04:05 pallad wrote:
On September 13 2012 04:03 S_SienZ wrote:
On September 13 2012 04:00 pallad wrote:
One side... everyone says that House is superb and everyone love it ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yG8hzVVZ4Q&feature=player_embedded#!

And at othger side one players say shit like this.. , who to belive ?

Perfectly possible for the house (as in the building) to be amazing but the boss behind it to be an unreasonable unprofessional douche.


And from where you know that ? You met him ? , or you just read one post here..?


Do you know him? Or are you associated with MoW in any way?


Im not.. but I never make an opinion based on one person words. Fuzer make post at TL and everyone instantly belive him..
Maby he make something it the house..and now he defend himself , we dont know that..
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torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
September 12 2012 19:09 GMT
#128
Is it so hard to assume that contracts differs from player to player?

Obviously Ret is not signing such a deal because he is an ASSET to the house the same way Destiny could be. He will bring attention to it and free marketing to it. Then on the other hands there are the other players who would love to play with them and train with them...
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
Spidinko
Profile Joined May 2010
Slovakia1174 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 19:12:49
September 12 2012 19:09 GMT
#129
It does sound pretty bad. But don't get carried away. It's just one side of the story.

EDIT:
He seems to be a little bit whiny about partying and noise.
Zazu
Profile Joined December 2010
9 Posts
September 12 2012 19:09 GMT
#130
good work Fuzer for publish.
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
September 12 2012 19:09 GMT
#131
On September 13 2012 03:45 ScienceRob wrote:
Show nested quote +
you're not allowed to establish your own house / be part of gaming house for next 10 years.


If this is true then I don't see why anyone would sign such a thing...


I agree this seems completely fucked up
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9047 Posts
September 12 2012 19:10 GMT
#132
The 10-year thing lol. Like eat-sleep-play is some kind of secret training regimen...
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
September 12 2012 19:10 GMT
#133
oh man i am scared for sage :S hope they dont fuck him over. If all of this is true these are some serious issues
teaCher
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada521 Posts
September 12 2012 19:10 GMT
#134
On September 13 2012 04:09 pallad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 04:06 hypercube wrote:
On September 13 2012 04:05 pallad wrote:
On September 13 2012 04:03 S_SienZ wrote:
On September 13 2012 04:00 pallad wrote:
One side... everyone says that House is superb and everyone love it ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yG8hzVVZ4Q&feature=player_embedded#!

And at othger side one players say shit like this.. , who to belive ?

Perfectly possible for the house (as in the building) to be amazing but the boss behind it to be an unreasonable unprofessional douche.


And from where you know that ? You met him ? , or you just read one post here..?


Do you know him? Or are you associated with MoW in any way?


Im not.. but I never make an opinion based on one person words. Fuzer make post at TL and everyone instantly belive him..
Maby he make something it the house..and now he defend himself , we dont know that..


Why would fuzer make it up? why would he even post/make it public if everything was ok?
You make no sense.
Obviously something went wrong, and they did Fuzer wrong.
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befek
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland413 Posts
September 12 2012 19:10 GMT
#135
It's sad but I'm not surprised It's like national habit to try go around things and not beaing clear. WE NEED UR EURO MONEY well hopefully it's not as bad.
Dan "Artosis" Stark: Roaches are coming, Game of Drones begins!
InfusedTT.DaZe
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania693 Posts
September 12 2012 19:10 GMT
#136
again, not every strawbery sundae actually has cherry's on top
"Echoes of past events nudge the tiller on my present course, I await its reflection in the future"
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
September 12 2012 19:10 GMT
#137
eagerly awaiting for the MoW statement before judging :p
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
September 12 2012 19:10 GMT
#138
On September 13 2012 04:06 MinistryOfWin wrote:
Official statement of Ministry of Win to be released within two hours.

exact words of the agreement would clear a lot of things about 10year/stream revenue
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setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
September 12 2012 19:11 GMT
#139
I highly doubt Nazgul would allow his player to sign a contract such as the one Fuzer is claiming. I'd like another side of the story from either current/past players or management before I buy into this .
Jell
Profile Joined September 2011
Portugal86 Posts
September 12 2012 19:11 GMT
#140
On September 13 2012 03:53 iNcontroL wrote:
not in a million years could I possible believe for 1 second that Nazgul/Hot_Bid would allow Ret to sign a contract to a house that excludes him from a progaming house for 10 years.

There is misinformation here or a contract specified to non-TL members.

I recommend people in this thread save their tridents for when more information comes out.


I wouldn't find it weird if they made a "special" contract for big name players.
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